Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

[McPoyle]

3 goals on 38 shots in the last 10 gp.

 

[authentic]

He came 2nd in the league in scoring while taking almost no shifts with Marner at 5v5 or playing with him on the PP at 19 (Babcock split the PP in two, so he didn't even get true PP1 time). To argue his scoring is primarily related to Marner just ignores his career. He didn't start playing with Marner a ton until year 4. Year 3 was the first year he got PP time with him. Matthews as a rookie had primarily a rookie Hyman on his wing, and either a rookie Nylander or a rookie Connor Brown, and the only player to outscore him that year was Crosby.

He also did this with 17:23 total time on ice 2:28 on the powerplay, as a 19 year old rookie playing with rookie wingers in a much lower scoring league, and were supposed to believe he’s only a 40-50 goal scorer now

 

[Golden_Jet]

In the original poll, voted 60+, looking good.

 

[uncleben]

He ate a hot dog buffet out of the Stanley Cup, that’s basically all you need to know.

Literally to troll the people calling him a fat, lazy, slob

 

[Darcy Tucker]

Literally to troll the people calling him a fat, lazy, slob

But he is a fat , lazy , slob. He just happens to be extremely good at hockey so he's our fat , lazy , slob.

 

[JukofYork]

The way folks throw away Kessel's name as an insult is legitimately crazy. The guy led a cup winning team in playoff scoring lol

Its not crazy. We have watched him his entire career. Lets not pretend Kessel didnt benefit from his teammates LARGELY during those 2 playoff seasons

 

[Arthur Morgan]

But he is a fat , lazy , slob. He just happens to be extremely good at hockey so he's our fat , lazy , slob.

oh well, for the most part it never held him back, I watched this guy stay on the ice and was completely gassed and still got a break away and scored.
the whole out of shape thing doesnt affect some people

 

[Darcy Tucker]

oh well, for the most part it never held him back, I watched this guy stay on the ice and was completely gassed and still got a break away and scored.
the whole out of shape thing doesnt affect some people

Oh I agree. I thought it was absolutely awesome that he was such a dynamo on offense and looked like he should be at a comic book store selling you magic cards.

He was a menace for Pittsburgh during their 2 cup runs. You can't take a thing away from Phil after what he went through.

 

[Menzinger]

Its not crazy. We have watched him his entire career. Lets not pretend Kessel didnt benefit from his teammates LARGELY during those 2 playoff seasons

All players benefit from good teammates, so that's not particularly unique to him. During his prime, Kessel has always delivered during the playoffs.

He lost the Conn Smythe by a hair to the best player in the world at the time (Crosby edged him 9-7 in voting). That doesn't happen to players who are passengers

 

[JukofYork]

All players benefit from good teammates, so that's not particularly unique to him. During his prime, Kessel has always delivered during the playoffs.

He lost the Conn Smythe by a hair to the best player in the world at the time (Crosby edged him 9-7 in voting). That doesn't happen to players who are passengers

We all watched him play in Toronto and what kind of success he can bring a team on his back. Not much. Take a look at + - .. a big part of the story starts there.

 

[PaulD]

9 more goals than Zach Hyman.

Its not crazy. We have watched him his entire career. Lets not pretend Kessel didnt benefit from his teammates LARGELY during those 2 playoff seasons

we all watched how good he was against teams like the Caps , Sharks, Preds .....and he played on a line with Nick Bonino.
Kessel was a stud onnthise cup winners .

 

[JukofYork]

9 more goals than Zach Hyman.


we all watched how good he was against teams like the Caps , Sharks, Preds .....and he played on a line with Nick Bonino.

Exactly. Zach Hyman another one who benefits massively when playing with McDavid. Same with kessel. Played with Crosby, Malkin etc numerous shifts per game, power plays etc.

Kessel is a decent player but streaky as hell. Can be insanely lazy and dissappear for 10+ games easily.

Decent 2nd liner

 

[Divine]

9 more goals than Zach Hyman.

What does it say about the rest of the league that they can’t outscore Hyman?

Even Draisaitl & McDavid can’t keep up with their top scorer.

 

[AvroArrow]

What does it say about the rest of the league that they can’t outscore Hyman?

Even Draisaitl & McDavid can’t keep up with their top scorer.

New thread, is Hyman a better goal scorer than Leon Draisaitl ?

 

[PaulD]

What does it say about the rest of the league that they can’t outscore Hyman?

Even Draisaitl & McDavid can’t keep up with their top scorer.

or Marner Nylander, McKinnon and Kucherov.



guess it says goal scoring aint everything

Or Matthews and Hyman would be 1-2 for the Hart not the rocket

Exactly. Zach Hyman another one who benefits massively when playing with McDavid. Same with kessel. Played with Crosby, Malkin etc numerous shifts per game, power plays etc.

Kessel is a decent player but streaky as hell. Can be insanely lazy and dissappear for 10+ games easily.

Decent 2nd liner

You forgot Matthews benefitting from playing with Marner ..

 

[Divine]

or Marner Nylander, McKinnon and Kucherov.



guess it says goal scoring aint everything

Or Matthews and Hyman would be 1-2 for the Hart not the rocket


You forgot Matthews benefitting from playing with Marner ..

Goalscoring is pretty important in a game where the objective is to score more goals than the other team.

It's not everything, but it's the single most important aspect of the game.

If your team doesn't have a goalscorer - you would lose every single game. There's no other attribute where that would be true.

I also don't see why you're taking shots at Hyman this year. The Oilers are probably not in a playoff spot if not for Hyman's goalscoring this year.

 

[PaulD]

Exactly. Zach Hyman another one who benefits massively when playing with McDavid. Same with kessel. Played with Crosby, Malkin etc numerous shifts per game, power plays etc.

Kessel is a decent player but streaky as hell. Can be insanely lazy and dissappear for 10+ games easily.

Decent 2nd liner

kind of like matthews in the play offs
5 games against Panthers last season 0 goals . Eliminated with a whimper.

Goalscoring is pretty important in a game where the objective is to score more goals than the other team.

It's not everything, but it's the single most important aspect of the game.

If your team doesn't have a goalscorer - you would lose every single game. There's no other attribute where that would be true.

I also don't see why you're taking shots at Hyman this year. The Oilers are probably not in a playoff spot if not for Hyman's goalscoring this year.

Trying reading slower.
I gave accolades to Hyman.
And said it before , Zack doesnt get enough credit and here he sits behind the leading goal scoring leaf hero by a meer 9 goals. For half the salary I might add.
Go Zack !

 

[JukofYork]

or Marner Nylander, McKinnon and Kucherov.



guess it says goal scoring aint everything

Or Matthews and Hyman would be 1-2 for the Hart not the rocket


You forgot Matthews benefitting from playing with Marner ..

Mathews benefits massively from Marner. Without Marner, Mathews looks shit out there. He needs someone to feed him the puck and Marner is above average passer

 

[PaulD]

Mathews benefits massively from Marner. Without Marner, Mathews looks shit out there. He needs someone to feed him the puck and Marner is above average passer

Matthews has been scoring his entire life.
the Leafs tanked an entire season to secure the sniper.
He scored 4 goals his first NHL game
40 his first season
he would score like he does with any first or sending line NHL winger. But Marner certainly fits the bill ..... until play offs it seems.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

Literally to troll the people calling him a fat, lazy, slob

AKA a massive middle finger to Steve the journalist every Toronto fan hates, so we all loved what Phil did there.

 

[JukofYork]

mstthews has been scoring his entire life.
the Leafs tanked an entire season to secure the sniper.
he scored 4 goals his first nhl game
40 his first season
he would score like he does with any first or sending line NHL winger. But Marner certainly fits the bill ..... until play offs it seems.

He is a goal scorer. Everyone has known that. However, he wasnt overly impressive until he reached the NHL where better passers can get him the puck.

 

[Divine]

Trying reading slower.
I gave accolades to Hyman.
And said it before , Zack doesnt get enough credit and here he sits behind the leading goal scoring leaf hero by a meer 9 goals. For half the salary I might add.
Go Zack !

Let's compare it to the Habs because I know you're a big Habs fan.

Habs 2 leading scorers - Suzuki & Caufield combined: 46 goals in 67 games (each) with an 15.725M cap hit
Zach Hyman: 46 goals in 64GP with a 5.5M cap hit.

Quite impressive he's producing more goals per game than the Habs 2 highest paid forwards combined while making 10M less.

 

[ORRFForever]

He NEEDS to do something in late April. I do not want to hear the big 4 in Toronto say, "We lost but we learned a lot about ourselves and we know this group can win going forward".

 

[bobholly39]

He NEEDS to do something in late April. I do not want to hear the big 4 in Toronto say, "We lost but we learned a lot about ourselves and we know this group can win going forward".

The all-time single playoff run record for goals is 19. That number has never seemed unreachable to me.

Matthews can definitely beat that. Obviously, this implies leading his team to the finals at least, but I think that's 100% a record within his reach.

I'm far from a Leafs fan, but I wouldn't mind seeing that happen.

 

[Whitewolfgang]

.....and looked like he should be at a comic book store selling you magic cards.

Damn, that made me spit out my coffee, lol