Attendance changes so far this season

Tie Domi Esquire

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Looks like they have given up in Pittsburgh. Pretty brutal given it’s only November.

A few weeks ago some of their fans on here yelled at me for suggesting that Toronto cares more about the Leafs than Pittsburgh does about the Penguins. They've already forgotten about Shero and Rutherford there.
 

Satans Hockey

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Speaking of games in atypical places skewing numbers … both Buffalo and New Jersey being near the bottom makes me wonder if the handling of the Prague games is mucking with the attendance numbers.

Even being near the bottom 2.7% is such a small amount it doesn't even matter. It's like a couple hundred people.
 
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NYI365

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NYI down is not surprising. Novelty of UBS is over, prices have increased, they decreased available parking in the garage and now you gotta park a half mile walk away north of the Racetrack. Team is mediocre. Equals down attendance.
 
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Rob

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NYI down is not surprising. Novelty of UBS is over, prices have increased, they decreased available parking in the garage and now you gotta park a half mile walk away north of the Racetrack. Team is mediocre. Equals down attendance.

I believe accessibility/location of the home arena is a huge factor for hockey. You cannot have an arena outside the city and expect continued success. That was a problem in Phoenix that lead to their demise. Sens have that issue as well.
 
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NYI365

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I believe accessibility/location of the home arena is a huge factor for hockey. You cannot have an arena outside the city and expect continued success. That was a problem in Phoenix that lead to their demise. Sens have that issue as well.
Agree. NYI fan base is mostly on the Island Proper, when they were at NVMC public transportation was non existent it was car or nothing to get to a game. The move to Barclays shifted that and the fan base had to adopt the LIRR to get to games.

The move to UBS is a little bit of a hybrid. A lot of LI based fans still drive, and they did build an LIRR station at the arena but it empties out a half mile away from the arena itself, you have to walk a half mile around the track to still get to UBS or board a shuttle bus.

NYI fans are (rightfully) upset at the team because there's a brand new world class (read that as world class expensive) high end retail village that opened up this year that ownership decided was important enough to axe 75% of the available parking spaces in the Parking Garage. The garage is much closer to the arena and ownership prioritized giving shoppers access to those spots over the fans.

Combined with $20 beers $15 chicken fingers $40 to park a half mile away and the team being mediocre, this is the result.
 
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BB79

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I believe accessibility/location of the home arena is a huge factor for hockey. You cannot have an arena outside the city and expect continued success. That was a problem in Phoenix that lead to their demise. Sens have that issue as well.
Spot on. When you put an arena off to the side of the city it practically excludes the other side of the city from going to games. No casual fan is commuting across a city at rush hour to go to games
 
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TheBeerNerd

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Spot on. When you put an arena off to the side of the city it practically excludes the other side of the city from going to games. No casual fan is commuting across a city at rush hour to go to games
I mean, I do this every time I go to a Devils game from Herald Square, but the PATH train is an exceptional transit option. You don't even need to use a different way to pay- either a MetroCard or your phone will get you through.

You can also go there via NJ Transit, but why the hell would you do that? Too much hassle and more expensive. I guess the LIRR might be the same way. The walk doesn't bother me too much because you still have to walk from Newark Penn Station in order to get to The Rock. I don't think it's a half mile but it's a few blocks away.
 

CowbellConray

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Do you have the game by game attendance for the teams? Some of this can be explained by nuance. Sabres have had multiple games conflict with the Bills (who are a top 3 team in the NFL so they will for sure carry draw) and one "home game" out of the Country, I believe in a smaller arena.

Would just be nice to see the game by game records.
 

Darren McCord

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Looks like they have given up in Pittsburgh. Pretty brutal given it’s only November.

I mean what do you expect. The team has an awful coach you should have been fired years ago. They have been blown out so many times this year even by mid teams.

The only hope is to make their wallet hurt until he is fired since the owners are his BFF's
 

Bradely

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Obviously incredible bounce back by the Jets. Panthers as cup winners make sense. Any that stands out from the list to you?

Source NHL Attendance Report 2024-25 - Sound Of Hockey
Love the Jets number.
Wish all Jets fan alot of fun and success. They deserve it. Small market being and showing they are bigger than most think and, pointing a finger (the right one) at Bettman..... is pretty cool!!!
 

KCC

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Wish all Jets fan alot of fun and success. They deserve it. Small market being and showing they are bigger than most think and, pointing a finger (the right one) at Bettman..... is pretty cool!!!
Tbf, their arena is tiny compared to everyone else. if it was a normal size say 17 or 18k and it was up this much, it would be more impressive. Jmo. But I’m glad fans are coming back. This is proof that if you put out a good product ppl will show up.
 
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drktmplr12

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It looks like a 1:1 scale, so what's the issue?
Suggest normalizing the scale based on 100% attendance for each team. Then we could see the relative health of ticket sales.

For example, WPG-15.9 % of what?

15.9% of 80% average attendance (92.7%) or 15.9% of 50% (58%)

Two different stories.
 

Darren McCord

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I never understand why in the sports world, regular people love to shit on other regular people for being unwilling to spend money on shitty products.
Pssssh

Stop being so fair weather. We should all spend 200 dollars on a ticket even if a team isn't spending money and is tanking. Think of how sad the owners will be and how the players making millions will feel.

I am glad other fans are here to make sure I spend money on watching my team get blown out.
 

No Fun Shogun

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Hawks being down less than 2% is pretty telling for the strength of the market. The team stinks and most of the market can't even watch games on TV due to their new channel snafus (not on Xfinity, OTA options have been inconsistent at best and crap more often than not, many aren't remotely interested in getting an antenna in literal 2024, and their new app is laughably poorly priced).

The team's basically been following a blueprint on intentionally annoying fans.
 

dirtydanglez

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Pittsburgh being 11th most expensive to go to a game while being the worst team isn't going to go well. Pittsburgh is a much smaller city than places like Boston, Chicago, Montreal or LA.

why is nashville so darn high. no historic or recent success. not a traditional hockey market. not a big city. sucks for their fans.
 

Straight Fire

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Not surprised at LA going backwards. That team could sure use a dynamic superstar.

I little surprised with Vegas, mind you most of these are small percentages.
 

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