ATD 2021 Draft Thread III

[BenchBrawl]

Getzlaf was a solid pick, not sure why he dropped. I had no real use for him, else I'd have traded up to get him.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Sorry for the delay I've been tied up with work and still distracted so hopefully this doesn't sink me:

Alf Smith, RW

 

[ResilientBeast]

Sorry for the delay I've been tied up with work and still distracted so hopefully this doesn't sink me:

Alf Smith, RW

All time intangibles guy, looks like a good fit with Apps and Thompson.

Even more sandpaper in your top 6. I like the fit

 

[BraveCanadian]

All time intangibles guy, looks like a good fit with Apps and Thompson.

Even more sandpaper in your top 6. I like the fit

I'm hoping so, but I'm also thinking of swapping Hextall and Smith around to have two big lines because I think Smith is probably better defensively than Hextall and I've found some indication Thompson wasn't just a one-dimensional guy. Hoping that would balance them.

 

[RustyRazor]

Sorry for the delay I've been tied up with work and still distracted so hopefully this doesn't sink me:

Alf Smith, RW

This was in fact the other player I was deciding between.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

This was in fact the other player I was deciding between.

Oh. Broadbent brings a defensive game Smith can't match, Smith is just a super-tough guy, right? (Which Broadbent also is).

Smith's offensive game is also really hard to figure out, depends on what you think of "reconstructed assists" of the era. I do like Smith better than the undrafted I've compared him to in the past.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Broadbent more complete skillset than Smith because of defense. Smith still a good pick up as of now.

Broadbent should also get leadership abilities based on his time in the army. I think he was promoted or something like that, I forgot.

 

[RustyRazor]

Oh. Broadbent brings a defensive game Smith can't match, Smith is just a super-tough guy, right? (Which Broadbent also is).

Smith's offensive game is also really hard to figure out, depends on what you think of "reconstructed assists" of the era. I do like Smith better than the undrafted I've compared him to in the past.

Broadbent more complete skillset than Smith because of defense. Smith still a good pick up as of now.

Broadbent should also get leadership abilities based on his time in the army. I think he was promoted or something like that, I forgot.

Good to know. I saw both were referred to as having a strong two-way game, but nice to know that Broadbent's reputation for defense is better. I'd have been fine with Smith as well, I just needed some physicality on that line.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Good to know. I saw both were referred to as having a strong two-way game, but nice to know that Broadbent's reputation for defense is better. I'd have been fine with Smith as well, I just needed some physicality on that line.

Problem with Broadbent is he's a very short peak guy. His peak was really, really great though, but only a year then some extra OK years.

The Denneny-Nighbor-Broadbent line of 1922 and 1923 was one crazy great hockey line in history. Greatest defensive center ever centering two-way powerforwards.

Broadbent won the "Art Ross" in 1922, and a strong Conn Smythe candidate in 1923 (he won the retro conn smythe).

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Problem with Broadbent is he's a very short peak guy. His peak was really, really greta though, but only a year then some extra OK years.

The Denneny-Nighbor-Broadbent line of 1922 and 1923 was one crazy great hockey line in history. Greatest defensive center ever centering two-way powerforwards.

Broadbent won the "Art Ross" in 1922, and a strong Conn Smythe candidate in 1923.

I think it's a stretch to call Denneny a "two-way" player. I think you and others have done well to show he wasn't awful

 

[BenchBrawl]

I think it's a stretch to call Denneny a "two-way" player. I think you and others have done well to show he wasn't awful

In the ATD maybe not, but in his 1920s NHL? He was defensively responsible.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

In the ATD maybe not, but in his 1920s NHL? He was defensively responsible.

I guess. He was the least celebrated defensive forward on Ottawa by a wide margin, but that is a high standard.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Denneny is also super clutch, but he got unlucky in the Top 60 Wingers project because he was judged a lot on 1920, which is the year he didn't contribute as much. I also think we read too much into him being a substitute, where this doesn't always mean the player is not a core player.

Denneny scored a ton of clutch goals in the subsequent SCs.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I guess. He was the least celebrated defensive forward on Ottawa by a wide margin, but that is a high standard.

Indeed

 

[BenchBrawl]

The substitute thing: When Harry Cameron got traded to the Senators in 1919, they had Cleghorn, Gerard and Cameron. Gerard was the substitute. I wouldn't necessarily conclude that he was lower in the hierarchy or unimportant. Maybe this is what it meant though (Cameron was at his peak then). But maybe not.

 

[Habsfan18]

I don’t have a pick next round, so better get my coach in now. And he’s one I think is a great fit for my core.

Coach, Hap Day.

 

[ChiTownPhilly]

We'd earlier called Babe Dye a sort of "poor-man's Brett Hull."

Cy Denneny is really like a "Rich Man's Brett Hull."

Or... maybe he's more like Playoff Brett Hull in the Regular Season, and Supercharged-Playoff Brett Hull in Ottawa's playoffs...

 

[Habsfan18]

Blake, Quenneville and Day in the same division. An already competitive division will feature some top notch coaching matchups.

 

[BenchBrawl]

We'd earlier called Babe Dye a sort of "poor-man's Brett Hull."

Cy Denneny is really like a "Rich Man's Brett Hull."

Or... maybe he's more like Playoff Brett Hull in the Regular Season, and Supercharged-Playoff Brett Hull in Ottawa's playoffs...

Denneny is much better defensively and has more of a physical game than Brett Hull IMO.

 

[ImporterExporter]

LL via messenger will select:

Gus Mortson, D

 

[nabby12]

Montreal Maroons select Bill Mosienko. One of the speediest wingers to ever grace a sheet of ice.

I just signed a book deal this week with a publisher here in Manitoba for the biography of Mosienko, so naturally, I had to make sure I picked him up.

 

[Habsfan18]

Looking forward to that Ty. I remember you telling me about the book plans, last summer I think it was. I’ll definitely be picking it up.

 

[Leaf Lander]

Mortson rounds out my top 6 dman nicely

MacInnis -Suter
Tremblay -Howell
Thomson -Mortson

 

[BenchBrawl]

Mortson rounds out my top 6 dman nicely

MacInnis -Suter
Tremblay -Howell
Thomson -Mortson

Sick D

 

[nabby12]

Looking forward to that Ty. I remember you telling me about the book plans, last summer I think it was. I’ll definitely be picking it up.

Thanks mate. I'll keep you posted on it!