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ATD 2021 Draft Thread III

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Getzlaf was a solid pick, not sure why he dropped. I had no real use for him, else I'd have traded up to get him.
 
Sorry for the delay I've been tied up with work and still distracted so hopefully this doesn't sink me:

Alf Smith, RW
 
ResilientBeast said:
All time intangibles guy, looks like a good fit with Apps and Thompson.

Even more sandpaper in your top 6. I like the fit
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I'm hoping so, but I'm also thinking of swapping Hextall and Smith around to have two big lines because I think Smith is probably better defensively than Hextall and I've found some indication Thompson wasn't just a one-dimensional guy. Hoping that would balance them.
 
Selfish Man said:
This was in fact the other player I was deciding between.
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Oh. Broadbent brings a defensive game Smith can't match, Smith is just a super-tough guy, right? (Which Broadbent also is).

Smith's offensive game is also really hard to figure out, depends on what you think of "reconstructed assists" of the era. I do like Smith better than the undrafted I've compared him to in the past.
 
Broadbent more complete skillset than Smith because of defense. Smith still a good pick up as of now.

Broadbent should also get leadership abilities based on his time in the army. I think he was promoted or something like that, I forgot.
 
TheDevilMadeMe said:
Oh. Broadbent brings a defensive game Smith can't match, Smith is just a super-tough guy, right? (Which Broadbent also is).

Smith's offensive game is also really hard to figure out, depends on what you think of "reconstructed assists" of the era. I do like Smith better than the undrafted I've compared him to in the past.
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BenchBrawl said:
Broadbent more complete skillset than Smith because of defense. Smith still a good pick up as of now.

Broadbent should also get leadership abilities based on his time in the army. I think he was promoted or something like that, I forgot.
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Good to know. I saw both were referred to as having a strong two-way game, but nice to know that Broadbent's reputation for defense is better. I'd have been fine with Smith as well, I just needed some physicality on that line.
 
Selfish Man said:
Good to know. I saw both were referred to as having a strong two-way game, but nice to know that Broadbent's reputation for defense is better. I'd have been fine with Smith as well, I just needed some physicality on that line.
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Problem with Broadbent is he's a very short peak guy. His peak was really, really great though, but only a year then some extra OK years.

The Denneny-Nighbor-Broadbent line of 1922 and 1923 was one crazy great hockey line in history. Greatest defensive center ever centering two-way powerforwards.

Broadbent won the "Art Ross" in 1922, and a strong Conn Smythe candidate in 1923 (he won the retro conn smythe).
 
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BenchBrawl said:
Problem with Broadbent is he's a very short peak guy. His peak was really, really greta though, but only a year then some extra OK years.

The Denneny-Nighbor-Broadbent line of 1922 and 1923 was one crazy great hockey line in history. Greatest defensive center ever centering two-way powerforwards.

Broadbent won the "Art Ross" in 1922, and a strong Conn Smythe candidate in 1923.
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I think it's a stretch to call Denneny a "two-way" player. I think you and others have done well to show he wasn't awful
 
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Denneny is also super clutch, but he got unlucky in the Top 60 Wingers project because he was judged a lot on 1920, which is the year he didn't contribute as much. I also think we read too much into him being a substitute, where this doesn't always mean the player is not a core player.

Denneny scored a ton of clutch goals in the subsequent SCs.
 
The substitute thing: When Harry Cameron got traded to the Senators in 1919, they had Cleghorn, Gerard and Cameron. Gerard was the substitute. I wouldn't necessarily conclude that he was lower in the hierarchy or unimportant. Maybe this is what it meant though (Cameron was at his peak then). But maybe not.
 
I don’t have a pick next round, so better get my coach in now. And he’s one I think is a great fit for my core.

Coach, Hap Day.

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We'd earlier called Babe Dye a sort of "poor-man's Brett Hull."

Cy Denneny is really like a "Rich Man's Brett Hull."

Or... maybe he's more like Playoff Brett Hull in the Regular Season, and Supercharged-Playoff Brett Hull in Ottawa's playoffs...
 
Blake, Quenneville and Day in the same division. An already competitive division will feature some top notch coaching matchups.
 
ChiTownPhilly said:
We'd earlier called Babe Dye a sort of "poor-man's Brett Hull."

Cy Denneny is really like a "Rich Man's Brett Hull."

Or... maybe he's more like Playoff Brett Hull in the Regular Season, and Supercharged-Playoff Brett Hull in Ottawa's playoffs...
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Denneny is much better defensively and has more of a physical game than Brett Hull IMO.
 
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Montreal Maroons select Bill Mosienko. One of the speediest wingers to ever grace a sheet of ice.

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I just signed a book deal this week with a publisher here in Manitoba for the biography of Mosienko, so naturally, I had to make sure I picked him up.
 
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Looking forward to that Ty. I remember you telling me about the book plans, last summer I think it was. I’ll definitely be picking it up.
 
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