ATD 2021 Draft Thread III

[tinyzombies]

No one PM’ed me that it was my turn!

Anyways, Montreal Maroons select George Hay.

and that was the fourth guy... I googled him in the French papers. He was considered a second tier star in the years after his career by one columnist because there had been a gathering of former stars and he didn't make it into the elite paragraph with Cyclone, etc., but was listed as a former star in paragraph two with lesser stars. Not in an actual evaluative sense, but just as a who was there at the event he was covering. but the writer might not have seen him play and his rep in the east might not have been would it could have been.

There was another article where Hay came up with an idea on how to get teams to stop playing for ties- he would award extra points to a team if they won by a certain amount of goals.

 

[overpass]

Gotta get my playmaking centre to create down low on the power play.

Denis Savard, C

 

[RustyRazor]

Let's get the third line started the same way we started the 1st and 2nd lines -- with a center, a righty this time.

Welcome to Portland, Neil Colville (C/D)!

 

[Claude The Fraud]

Team Canada are pleased to select, from Ottawa, Ontario, Dan Boyle.

 

[tabness]

Got the choice of two right wingers of Robitaille. Since the line can be tactically deployed more easily behind the first, I will go with the better offensive player with Ziggy Palffy, not the fastest but shifty little skater that should complement the line. Elite offensive vision, equally good scorer and playmaker.

 

[Leaf Lander]

I have LL's proxy:

Toronto selects arguably the greatest captain in team history:

George Armstrong, RW

Armstrong was able to adjust to the NHL game and prove his critics wrong. He became a very reliable two way player. He was always dependable in his own zone and patrolled his wing with great efficiency, and there are few players who could work the walls and corners with the effectiveness of Armstrong. Offensively he contributed steady though never mind boggling statistics, but was always dangerous when he controlled the puck .

Toronto Maple Leafs Legends

Armstrong was a hard worker and in his 21 seasons in Toronto, he tallied 296 goals and 417 assists in 1,187 games.
Smythe called No. 10 “the best captain the Leafs have ever had.” Coach Punch Imlach

lamce Hornsby Toronto sun

This kid’s got everything; size, speed, and he can shoot ‘em into the net better that any player I’ve known in a long time,” said assistant GM King Clancy.

lamce Hornsby toronto sun

The leafs have never had a true superstar, but George Armstrong was a superstar when it came to being a leader of men. He's right there with Messier, Yzerman and Beliveau.

Ken Campbell

 

[ResilientBeast]

This guy has tumbled down the draft board this year and I'm excited to get him at the lowest point since I've been doing these drafts. Someone who deserves to mentioned in the same breath as the greatest defensive wingers/forwards in hockey history continuing my accidental PCHA All-Star team Jack Walker, F

3 x First Team All-Star (1921, 1922, 1924)
3 x Second Team All-Star (1917, 1919, 1920)

RS Offense:
Points – 4th(1914), 4th(1924), 8th(1923), 9th(1916), 9th(1919), 10th(1917)
Goals – 4th(1924), 5th(1916), 7th(1915), 9th(1914), 9th(1919), 9th(1923)
Assists- 1st(1914), 4th(1916), 4th(1923), 5th(1919), 6th(1924), 8th(1922), 9th(1926), 10th(1925)

Hockey Hall of Fame, Would be Conn Smythe winner Jack Walker: Hockey Hall of Fame - News - Pod Shots - Conn Smythe Trophy Vote

Edit some quotes

"jack walker, hook-check artist (can get a little tiresome)

In purely defensive play, Jack Walker, with his clever hook-check, was [sic] the Seattle’s star. Walker took the puck away from the best stick handlers the Flying Frenchmen could produce as easily [as] taking off his hat and it was his work that spilled most of the offensive hopes of the Canadiens.

Jack Walker’s work has been an outstanding feature of the entire series, and Jack was up to all his tricks last night. He kept the hook-checking working with such monotonous regularity that it almost got tiresome, and he finally succeeded in making one of his shots good and broke through for a goal.​

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[TheDevilMadeMe]

This guy has tumbled down the draft board this year and I'm excited to get him at the lowest point since I've been doing these drafts. Someone who deserves to mentioned in the same breath as the greatest defensive wingers/forwards in hockey history continuing my accidental PCHA All-Star team Jack Walker, F

3 x First Team All-Star (1921, 1922, 1924)
3 x Second Team All-Star (1917, 1919, 1920)

RS Offense:
Points – 4th(1914), 4th(1924), 8th(1923), 9th(1916), 9th(1919), 10th(1917)
Goals – 4th(1924), 5th(1916), 7th(1915), 9th(1914), 9th(1919), 9th(1923)
Assists- 1st(1914), 4th(1916), 4th(1923), 5th(1919), 6th(1924), 8th(1922), 9th(1926), 10th(1925)

Hockey Hall of Fame, Would be Conn Smythe winner Jack Walker: Hockey Hall of Fame - News - Pod Shots - Conn Smythe Trophy Vote

He's definitely not as good defensively as Nighbor, so he isn't going to be top tier in that regards, but I think he's firmly in the second tier of defensively forwards.

 

[ResilientBeast]

He's definitely not as good defensively as Nighbor, so he isn't going to be top tier in that regards, but I think he's firmly in the second tier of defensively forwards.

That's why I was super careful with my words, mentioned alongside them for sure, despite the praise for both MacKay and Walker relative to Nighbor they were still ranked below him in that regard.

With all the speed in the Jim Robson felt it was appropriate to spend some draft capital on someone who can help blanket the opposition.

I've currently got him with Lalonde and MacKay as my second line, an offensive third wheel is a role he played in real life and would be quite comfortable doing.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Toronto Maple Leafs Legends

lamce Hornsby Toronto sun


lamce Hornsby toronto sun

Love Armstrong and all he brings.

 

[Dreakmur]

Got the choice of two right wingers of Robitaille. Since the line can be tactically deployed more easily behind the first, I will go with the better offensive player with Ziggy Palffy, not the fastest but shifty little skater that should complement the line. Elite offensive vision, equally good scorer and playmaker.

Palffy might be a PP specialist in this size draft.

 

[Dreakmur]

He's definitely not as good defensively as Nighbor, so he isn't going to be top tier in that regards, but I think he's firmly in the second tier of defensively forwards.

Offensively, he's probably about equal to a guy like Baldy Northcott.

 

[Dreakmur]

This guy has tumbled down the draft board this year and I'm excited to get him at the lowest point since I've been doing these drafts.

Jack Walker, F

It was a good pick.... but, this is a 30 spot jump up from last year. Definitely not his lowest point.

 

[ResilientBeast]

It was a good pick.... but, this is a 30 spot jump up from last year. Definitely not his lowest point.

Then my spreadsheet is totally broken oops

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Palffy might be a PP specialist in this size draft.

Palffy is the comparable I thought of when Kucherov was drafted. Was he really that PP reliant?

 

[Dreakmur]

Palffy is the comparable I thought of when Kucherov was drafted. Was he really that PP reliant?

Forget the exact numbers, but I remember making a pretty strong case for him being a weak ES scorer in last year’s playoffs.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Elite speed. Pittsburgh is thrilled to be adding yet another all time great skater to it's lineup. Orr, Cournoyer, Seibert, Martinec, and now this player. He was very physical, playing an abrasive style, willing to do whatever necessary to win. Solid defensively (see scouting reports/87 Canada Cup as a specific example), he was just a fantastic secondary piece on a all time great dynasty and many times he scored the biggest goal of a game/series. 6th all time in game winning playoff goals. 215 points in 225 career games. Another serial winner here.

The AC are pleased to welcome!

Glenn Anderson, RW

Pulled these quotes from the tremendous bio by @seventieslord

Glenn Anderson


Hockey Almanac 1993-94 said:

Skating has always been the foundation of Anderson's game. In his youth, he had speed to burn, and used it to burn defensemen. Later, he made use of his shifty, darting style where quickness no longer sufficed. He fires the puck masterfully, with a hard, accurate shot capable of finding holes in heavy traffic or beating the goalie clean. His devil-may-care attitude translates into his play, where he becomes utterly unpredictable. Anderson will do anything, go anywhere, take on anyone, to get the puck. He is fearless and relentless. He takes an amazing amount of punishment without appearing to mind. He just keeps coming and coming.

WILL: Give his all.
CAN'T: Be intimidated.

The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1982 said:

Great speed, puckhandling and scoring skills, defensively sound and aggressive...

The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1983 said:

Electrifying performer, ultra-fast, tough and skilled... very aggressive, plays as if he was much larger... good penalty killer...

The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1984 said:

One of the most gifted young players in the game... very fast, skilled in all areas and physically aggressive...

The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1985 said:

Ultra-quick skater who can execute all his moves at top speed... strong playoff performer... Tough and bellicose, he can play both wings... Has a laid-back, off-the-wall approach to life...

The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1986 said:

Slick, quick skater... Skilled at slipping past defenders with or without the puck to create close range scoring opportunities... always on the move... Difficult to check... Operates well in the slot area or from offensive angles in faceoff circles... Well-known for ability to pester rival goalies close to net... Plays with tenacity and drive... Rivals respect his ability but become annoyed by his persistent, chippy style of play.

The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1987 said:

If one player in the NHL can make others look like they are standing still, he can... possesses tremendous speed and uses it wisely... a devil-may-care individual who sometimes acts impulsively... opponents say he's chippy and carries his stick a bit too high

Hockey Scouting Report 1987-88 said:

Anderson is a tremendously skilled player, one of the Oilers' world-class players... He is an excellent skater with tremendous speed, and he moderates it well, although he most often works at full throttle... runs into most anything he can without fear... difficult to hit because he is so fast...

The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1988 said:

Incredibly fast skater who, given lots of room, leaves opponents standing still... a free spirit who excels under pressure...

Hockey Scouting Report 1988-89 said:

Anderson is a world-class player... almost unstoppable once he gets going... able to make good use of his teammates... tortures opposing goalies... he's also solid defensively, playing his check well into the defensive zone... plays with reckless disregard for his own safety... fearlessly runs into anything he can... definitely initiates a good deal of contact and is unafraid of the hitting that accompanies his work in the corners... when the playoffs come, he can't be stopped.

Hockey Scouting Report 1989-90 said:

Anderson's ability to do more things faster than almost anyone in the league makes him a remarkable finesse player... no one can catch him... His speed is made better because of his balance, so Glenn adds fantastic agility and quickness to his repertoire. His balance makes the opposition suffer the brunt of the physical punishment when Anderson gets hit, not the other way around.... Glenn doesn't need to slow down to make his plays, he works excellently at full throttle... can score anytime, from anywhere - and from any part of the net... he excels in the traffic areas around the net for tough goals too.

Plays like a kamikaze, flinging his body into people with abandon. He initiates a good deal of contact and is unafraid of the hitting that accompanies his work in the corners and he'll also get his stick into people... desire is the key to Anderson.

Hockey Scouting Report 1990-91 said:

Anderson's feet and hand skills are made better by eachother, in that Glenn needn't slow down to make his plays... He's a creative player in the offensive zone without the puck, and his good vision and anticipation allow him to make good use of his teammates... Those who came to bury Anderson and not to praise him were a bit premature last season. He rebounded during the regular season, and once again demonstrated that it is in the Stanley Cup play that he shows best - he was one of Edmonton's five best players, especially in the Final.

Hockey Scouting Report 1991-92 said:

Anderson's skating game remains his premier asset. He is blindingly fast and able to make plays while at top speed. Anderson is still among the best at cutting in from his off-wing, driving to the net and making a play. His slap shot isn't bad, but more of his goals come on close-in moves, as Anderson's thoughts and hands are as quick as his feet.

He is versatile enough offensively; Anderson will create goals of his own, or he will use his knowledge of how to get open to play off his linemates for scoring rushes.

A reliable defensive player, Anderson will not leave the zone early and think offense before the defensive job is done. He will hold his position in the zone and be there for the outlet pass when the defenseman has to rap it along the boards. And, of course, there isn't a soul he can't catch from behind.

Anderson is a feisty player. After all the accomplishments, all the championships, a fire still burns inside him. He hits, he yaps. He absolutely will not take a backward step. Cross him, you'll pay... Anderson is one of the fine clutch scorers in the game. he comes up with the big play at the proper time and probably never gets enough credit for his level of play... Anderson essentially is an unflappable individual. Not too many things bother him...

Hockey Scouting Report 1992-93 said:

Anderson remains fast enough to beat a defenseman with speed and cut to the net. he can still come up with his share of big plays at the proper time and remains one of the modern era's better clutch players. An intelligent, creative player, Anderson knows how to get open and has the in-tight scoring touch to make a fake and roof a shot... Anderson is still just careless enough with his stick that you're never absolutely sure whether he legitimately lost his balance before bonking a guy on the head.

Simply The Best (story of the 1990 Cup Win) said:

The Oilers had skated the Bruins into oblivion. After a scoreless first period, Glenn Anderson gave Boston a taste of things to come one minute into the second when he found himself coming in alone on Ray Bourque and *** *******. Obviously terrified of Anderson's speed, ******* bit on an outside fake. Bourque left himself too wide and Anderson stepped between them for the game's first goal. It had all the elements of victory - speed, finesse, and experience. And the Bruins could not handle it. Nor could anyone else last spring.

Maple Leaf Legends said:

Anderson's game can best be summarized with two words: Speed and scoring. He could fly down the wing and take the puck to the net in an absolutely fearless manner. Many players could skate as well, but few had the courage to go to the net on such a steady basis. Once Anderson got there, he had a nice touch and a hard shot... He was even better in the playoffs... At 6'1" and 190 lbs, Anderson was not the biggest player in the NHL, but he played bigger by wanting the puck and being willing to dig it out. Anderson was adept at taking punishment in front of the net, using his stick to get some room and keep the opposition leery of the lumber. He managed to avoid serious injury for most of his career... In the Leafs' surprising 1993 playoff run, Anderson showed again he was a clutch player, with 18 points in 21 games. He scored a key goal against Detroit in the 7th game and an overtime winner versus Los Angeles in the fifth game.

Firewagon Hockey: The Game in the 80s said:

A superb skater who was fearless... became known as one of the best clutch players in NHL history.​

Ultimate Hockey said:

Anderson struck fear into opposition goalies. Not only did he have the raw skills - speed, skating, big shot - buthe had a great big mean streak. Teammate Kevin Lowe once commented on Anderson's abrasive playing style. "Andy does it in an unassuming fashion. He's very subtle. But anyone who wants to take advantage of him will pay the price."

Oilers co-coach **** ******* was high on the fiery right winger: "He's a gifted shater and and a daredevil. He goes to the net as well as anyone in the NHL. He drives to the net and when you're playing against him, you have to be leery of him. You never know what's going to happen. He loses control."

In a word: BRAVADO​

Gretzky To Lemieux: The Story Of the 1987 Canada Cup said:

Lemieux's goal came with just under 10 minutes left, and the Canadians did a masterful job of protecting their lead...Messier and Anderson drew the assignment against the Larionov line and didn't surrender a scoring chance against the great Russian trio.

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[Habsfan18]

For me, Glenn Anderson’s biggest selling point in the ATD is his absolute clutchness in the playoffs. Just a post season monster. Can never go wrong with taking a guy like that.

 

[tabness]

Palffy is the comparable I thought of when Kucherov was drafted. Was he really that PP reliant?

Seems to be average for a scoring forward in terms of splits (that line is my top powerplay unit though lol). Palffy was small and definitely not suited for his era, would be a lot more effective playing now.

 

[ImporterExporter]

For me, Glenn Anderson’s biggest selling point in the ATD is his absolute clutchness in the playoffs. Just a post season monster. Can never go wrong with taking a guy like that.

I always tend to gravitate towards those types in the middle portions of the draft especially. Role players, secondary pieces are crucial to winning. I've never studied Anderson much prior to this year, but I was pleasantly surprised to see his all around game, physical nature, and abrasive/pest like playing style prominently featured in the descriptions.

His clutchness extended long after Gretzky left Edmonton. Hell, even in Toronto he had a strong run, in 93 IIRC. Entering the twilight years of his carer and he was still producing clutch moments.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Guys,

I'm barely awake at this point. Glitch left me his list for pick 265.

Who can I drop that with? Please and thanks!

 

[ResilientBeast]

Guys,

I'm barely awake at this point. Glitch left me his list for pick 265.

Who can I drop that with? Please and thanks!

I'll be around for a bit

 

[BenchBrawl]

Guys,

I'm barely awake at this point. Glitch left me his list for pick 265.

Who can I drop that with? Please and thanks!

Ship it here, I'll be up all night.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Left list with @ResilientBeast and @BenchBrawl

Thanks folks!

 

[tony d]

Going with head coach Joel quenneville.

next has been pmed.