ATD 2020 Draft Thread IV
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Sure..Baltimore has Clarke, Shanahan, Hadfield, Stevens, Blake, Day, Suter. We’ll play a rough and pesky style of hockey. Add the speed of McDavid and Cournoyer and the solid defense and shadowing abilities of Kasper and Metz and we’ll be very tough to play against. May take a decent amount of penalties because of the style and the roster..
But..we also have Clarke, Metz and Kasper killing those penalties. That has the potential to be among the best trio of PKers on a team in the ATD this year.
And we’ll also piss a lot of players off I imagine, drawing a fair amount of penalties as well.
But..we also have Clarke, Metz and Kasper killing those penalties. That has the potential to be among the best trio of PKers on a team in the ATD this year.
And we’ll also piss a lot of players off I imagine, drawing a fair amount of penalties as well.
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Saskatoon will select, what I think is a fantastic fit for the Kharlamov-Petrov duo. Reading extensively on this player, brings me to the conclusion he's a poor man's Mikhailov, the actual RW for the above pair. He wasn't the biggest player but he was very physical and was the brains of his line, much like Mikhailov was. Given he was a favorite of Tarasov, Saskatoon's coach, I think this is a great fit. Check out the numerous quotes below to see what I'm talking about.
Saskatoon is happy to select:
Konstantin Loktev, RW
Anatoly Tarasov (1968):
"Loktev plays a hard game. He is very daring so much that he may be on the verge of being sent to the penalty box. He is not afraid of zipping along the boards at high speed and he fights for the puck right up to the end. He is a very industrious sportsman, but he works and plays honestly. It never enters his mind that someone else must do his job. (...) Previously, he was quite difficult to get along with. He was always picking a fight. And sometimes in the heat of the game he could start roughing. He took it very hard whenever the opposing team began handing out bone-rattling body checks. I am quite sure the Hockey Federation acted correctly when it punished him for rough play several years ago. Loktev has a head on his shoulders and he took everything the right way – he drew the proper conclusions for himself. If it had not been for that punishment he received, perhaps we would not have had today's Loktev – a great master, a fighter (but not a bully), a high-calibre puckster."
Boris Mayorov:
"Sometime before the 1963 World Championship he was injured and, not hitting his form in time for the tournament, he missed out on Stockholm. We were vividly aware of the absence of our captain. Yes, us Spartak players wouldn't have been on the ice with him anyway, we played on a different forward line. But Loktev had such a deep and fine understanding of the game, knew exactly when and what to tell his teammates and was able to hit the right tone, that he was a man simply irreplaceable on the bench."
Nikolay Sologubov:
"If offensive skill is measured by the sum of scoring points, pucks won, goals scored and passes completed (...) then the palm belongs to Loktev, this 'think tank' among the CSKA forwards.
A bold and courageous player well-endowed with a rich set of technical skills and a fine tactican – that's Konstantin Loktev, Merited Master of Sports."
Anatoly Firsov:
"Konstantin did a lot of the heavy work, he was everywhere on the ice, but at the same time he was the chief designer of the trio, the conductor and the supervisor who 'kept all the threads of the conspiracy in his hands'.
He was an excellent stickhandler and a terrific skater and no defenceman would handle him one against one. And since Loktev kept not one but two opponents occupied, he thus created space for xxxxxx.
He loved to pass. He thought of it as the most exciting thing in hockey. He wasn't eager for goals and for glory.
How many times could Konstantin have scored easily and without interference but if there was a linemate close he made sure to give him the puck, so that his comrade was the one who achieved success. (...)
In the most passionate fight, in the battle for the puck, he still managed to keep track of all movements of his linemates.
Anatoly Tarasov (1968):
"Loktev stands out through his passion and indefatigability, his large radius of action and the enormous workload he shoulders. He doesn't spare himself and goes all out in order to help his team as much as he can in every single game.
He plays a very original game. He holds his stick at arm's length and leads the puck far out in front of him, thereby quite often provoking the enemy 'to come and get it'. The opponent thinks he can easily give him a body check, that Loktev will not be able to sidestep out of the way because the puck is way out in front, he won't be able to make a feint. But right at the last split second, in some fantastic way Loktev twists out of the way, picks up the puck again and zeroes in on the net, leaving a perplexed defenceman behind him, still not realizing what happened."
Vyacheslav Starshinov:
"Konstantin Loktev was without doubt the heart and brain of the xxxxxxx line.
On his shoulders laid the bulk of the unspectacular prep work for the team. This distribution of roles was natural on a line where the two other aces weren't fond of that work while Loktev loved it and knew how to do it.
Konstantin stood out through his inexhaustible enthusiasm and cheerful optimism. He was the oldest player on that line, but he always seemed to me as if he was the youngest. He was by nature a cheerful person. I can't for the life of mine remember I have ever seen him discouraged."
Saskatoon is happy to select:
Konstantin Loktev, RW
Anatoly Tarasov (1968):
"Loktev plays a hard game. He is very daring so much that he may be on the verge of being sent to the penalty box. He is not afraid of zipping along the boards at high speed and he fights for the puck right up to the end. He is a very industrious sportsman, but he works and plays honestly. It never enters his mind that someone else must do his job. (...) Previously, he was quite difficult to get along with. He was always picking a fight. And sometimes in the heat of the game he could start roughing. He took it very hard whenever the opposing team began handing out bone-rattling body checks. I am quite sure the Hockey Federation acted correctly when it punished him for rough play several years ago. Loktev has a head on his shoulders and he took everything the right way – he drew the proper conclusions for himself. If it had not been for that punishment he received, perhaps we would not have had today's Loktev – a great master, a fighter (but not a bully), a high-calibre puckster."
Boris Mayorov:
"Sometime before the 1963 World Championship he was injured and, not hitting his form in time for the tournament, he missed out on Stockholm. We were vividly aware of the absence of our captain. Yes, us Spartak players wouldn't have been on the ice with him anyway, we played on a different forward line. But Loktev had such a deep and fine understanding of the game, knew exactly when and what to tell his teammates and was able to hit the right tone, that he was a man simply irreplaceable on the bench."
Nikolay Sologubov:
"If offensive skill is measured by the sum of scoring points, pucks won, goals scored and passes completed (...) then the palm belongs to Loktev, this 'think tank' among the CSKA forwards.
A bold and courageous player well-endowed with a rich set of technical skills and a fine tactican – that's Konstantin Loktev, Merited Master of Sports."
Anatoly Firsov:
"Konstantin did a lot of the heavy work, he was everywhere on the ice, but at the same time he was the chief designer of the trio, the conductor and the supervisor who 'kept all the threads of the conspiracy in his hands'.
He was an excellent stickhandler and a terrific skater and no defenceman would handle him one against one. And since Loktev kept not one but two opponents occupied, he thus created space for xxxxxx.
He loved to pass. He thought of it as the most exciting thing in hockey. He wasn't eager for goals and for glory.
How many times could Konstantin have scored easily and without interference but if there was a linemate close he made sure to give him the puck, so that his comrade was the one who achieved success. (...)
In the most passionate fight, in the battle for the puck, he still managed to keep track of all movements of his linemates.
Anatoly Tarasov (1968):
"Loktev stands out through his passion and indefatigability, his large radius of action and the enormous workload he shoulders. He doesn't spare himself and goes all out in order to help his team as much as he can in every single game.
He plays a very original game. He holds his stick at arm's length and leads the puck far out in front of him, thereby quite often provoking the enemy 'to come and get it'. The opponent thinks he can easily give him a body check, that Loktev will not be able to sidestep out of the way because the puck is way out in front, he won't be able to make a feint. But right at the last split second, in some fantastic way Loktev twists out of the way, picks up the puck again and zeroes in on the net, leaving a perplexed defenceman behind him, still not realizing what happened."
Vyacheslav Starshinov:
"Konstantin Loktev was without doubt the heart and brain of the xxxxxxx line.
On his shoulders laid the bulk of the unspectacular prep work for the team. This distribution of roles was natural on a line where the two other aces weren't fond of that work while Loktev loved it and knew how to do it.
Konstantin stood out through his inexhaustible enthusiasm and cheerful optimism. He was the oldest player on that line, but he always seemed to me as if he was the youngest. He was by nature a cheerful person. I can't for the life of mine remember I have ever seen him discouraged."
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Baltimore selects a Selke winner noted for his top notch shadowing/checking abilities..C, Steve Kasper
The following quotes are taken from Rob Scuderi’s Kasper bio: ATD 2014 - the Bios Thread
Best defensive F left IMO. Great pick for you guys!
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We targeted Kasper a loooong time ago.
A guy who had such success against Gretzky and Lemieux deserved drafting top 9.
A guy who had such success against Gretzky and Lemieux deserved drafting top 9.
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I have very limited internet access and time the next week. So if someone can do my picks for me that would be great. Pleas PM me
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Chicago selects Rod Seiling, D
Seiling will play next to John Carlson on the Cougars 2nd unit, which should allow Carlson to play more offensively.
Seiling will play next to John Carlson on the Cougars 2nd unit, which should allow Carlson to play more offensively.
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Rusty Crawford, LW/D
From a really old bio:
-9 times top-10 in assists, 7 times in top leagues.
-4 times top-10 in goals, 2 times in top leagues
-4 times top-10 in PIM
-HHOF
-Stanley Cup - 1913, 1918
-3 retro Selkes awarded by Ultimate Hockey - 1915 NHA, 1917 NHA, 1922 WCHL.
-A career that spanned over 20 years and until age 45.
-Maintained or exceeded his levels of production in the playoffs at all levels.
From The Trail Of the Stanley Cup: "A tireless backchecker and a great team player, Rusty was one of the best."
MLD #9 Drafting Thread
Overpass's more recent bio includes more contemporary accounts of Crawford's play: ATD 2018 Bio Thread
From a really old bio:
-9 times top-10 in assists, 7 times in top leagues.
-4 times top-10 in goals, 2 times in top leagues
-4 times top-10 in PIM
-HHOF
-Stanley Cup - 1913, 1918
-3 retro Selkes awarded by Ultimate Hockey - 1915 NHA, 1917 NHA, 1922 WCHL.
-A career that spanned over 20 years and until age 45.
-Maintained or exceeded his levels of production in the playoffs at all levels.
From The Trail Of the Stanley Cup: "A tireless backchecker and a great team player, Rusty was one of the best."
MLD #9 Drafting Thread
Overpass's more recent bio includes more contemporary accounts of Crawford's play: ATD 2018 Bio Thread
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I'll take Terry O'Reilly, RW
Played in 1975 and 1978 All-Star Games
Selke Trophy voting: 12th (1978), 14th (1980), 14th (1981), scant voting two other seasons
O'Reilly had a very strong season in 1978. He led the Bruins in regular season scoring, a team that lost in the SC finals.
He finished 7th in points and 6th in assists league-wide.
He finished 3rd in RW AST voting in 1978 behind Lafleur and Bossy, and 7th in Hart Trophy voting.
Captain of Bruins 1984 and 1985 seasons
O'Reilly fought 224 times with a 56-23-35 record according to dropyourgloves.com
From Rob Scuderi's Bio
Played in 1975 and 1978 All-Star Games
Selke Trophy voting: 12th (1978), 14th (1980), 14th (1981), scant voting two other seasons
O'Reilly had a very strong season in 1978. He led the Bruins in regular season scoring, a team that lost in the SC finals.
He finished 7th in points and 6th in assists league-wide.
He finished 3rd in RW AST voting in 1978 behind Lafleur and Bossy, and 7th in Hart Trophy voting.
Captain of Bruins 1984 and 1985 seasons
O'Reilly fought 224 times with a 56-23-35 record according to dropyourgloves.com
From Rob Scuderi's Bio
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Skates pick Steve Duchesne and Robert Svehla
Duchesne is a great offensive defenseman, very nice skating and puck skills. Great defensively one on one because of his skating, and his defensive reputation was bad because he really did not take the body but that can be easily remedied by playing with Pronger (Duchesne played right defense even though he was a lefty). Duchesne and MacInnis paired nicely on the powerplay in their brief time in St. Louis in the mid nineties.
Svehla is just an underrated all around defenseman, maybe not elite at any one thing, but good to great at everything. He fits in anywhere on the blueline.
Duchesne is a great offensive defenseman, very nice skating and puck skills. Great defensively one on one because of his skating, and his defensive reputation was bad because he really did not take the body but that can be easily remedied by playing with Pronger (Duchesne played right defense even though he was a lefty). Duchesne and MacInnis paired nicely on the powerplay in their brief time in St. Louis in the mid nineties.
Svehla is just an underrated all around defenseman, maybe not elite at any one thing, but good to great at everything. He fits in anywhere on the blueline.
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I'll take my coach, he will have no say on player personnel and the players union is alive and well so he can't trade Ted Lindsay for it and select Jack Adams, Coach
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Duke Keats can protect Lynn Patrick, but it's too much to ask any single man to protect 2 softies. So I'll draft who I think is the best available scoring winger who isn't soft:
HHOFer Harry Hyland, RW - fast, scrappy, goal scoring RW.
"A fast skater with powerful, accurate shot,"
"a small but tough little bugger"
Hyland's peak was fairly short, but it was very good:
Goalscoring performances of the best National Hockey Association players from 1911 to 1915
1. Harry Hyland - 106 goals in 72 games played - 1.47 goals/game
2. Joe Malone - 104 goals in 67 games played - 1.55 goals/game
3. Didier Pitre - 95 goals in 70 games played - 1.35 goals/game
4. Edouard Lalonde - 78 goals in 54 games played - 1.44 goals/game
Hyland was selected by Charles Coleman, the author of the Trail of the Stanley Cup, as one of the top 11 forwards of the 1893-1926 period. Hyland is the 10th of them to be drafted; the remaining one is from the previous generation.
Previous bio: ATD 2012 Bios Thread (as complete as possible: pic, quotes, stats, sources, etc)
Hyland used to go much higher than this back when the drafts were 30+ teams before. As something of a "scoring line or bust" player, he dropped to spare status when the drafts contracted to 20-26 teams.
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HHOFer Harry Hyland, RW - fast, scrappy, goal scoring RW.
"A fast skater with powerful, accurate shot,"
"a small but tough little bugger"
Hyland's peak was fairly short, but it was very good:
Goalscoring performances of the best National Hockey Association players from 1911 to 1915
1. Harry Hyland - 106 goals in 72 games played - 1.47 goals/game
2. Joe Malone - 104 goals in 67 games played - 1.55 goals/game
3. Didier Pitre - 95 goals in 70 games played - 1.35 goals/game
4. Edouard Lalonde - 78 goals in 54 games played - 1.44 goals/game
Hyland was selected by Charles Coleman, the author of the Trail of the Stanley Cup, as one of the top 11 forwards of the 1893-1926 period. Hyland is the 10th of them to be drafted; the remaining one is from the previous generation.
Previous bio: ATD 2012 Bios Thread (as complete as possible: pic, quotes, stats, sources, etc)
Hyland used to go much higher than this back when the drafts were 30+ teams before. As something of a "scoring line or bust" player, he dropped to spare status when the drafts contracted to 20-26 teams.
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Not to mention our top penalty killer (and equally rough and pesky): Battlin' Billy Smith!
8 times top 5 in save percentage in the regular season, four-time leader in shots faced and saves made in the postseason.
The only knock on him is he was part of a tandem in the regular season, was not a workhorse like Hall or Brodeur, but instead a guy who took half the starts in the regular season then was fresh to run roughshod in the playoffs.
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Ideally, Wilson is the only one of those guys who would be on a 1st PP unit in the ATD.
And yes, I've used Salming on a top ATD PP unit before, myself.
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Chicago selects John MacLean, RW
MacLean's style of play should fit in well in Tommy Gorman's heavy forechecking system
MacLean's style of play should fit in well in Tommy Gorman's heavy forechecking system
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The main question that Baltimore has to answer right now: Who will platoon with Billy Smith in the regular season? Battlin’ Billy is SOLID in the playoffs, a dynasty goaltender. But he typically shared the load with his backup during regular season play. That made it crucial to make sure we had a backup that was more than capable to help share the workload in the regular season.
The answer: G, Curtis “Cujo” Joseph
Billy Smith and Curtis Joseph, we feel, will give us one of the best (if not THE best) goaltending tandems in the ATD this year.
Over 450 regular season victories, Joseph’s .909 save percentage from 1992 through 2003 placed him 5th out of all goaltenders. He placed 4th and 11th in Hart voting, and 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 8th in Vezina voting. In an era where Canada had incredible goaltending depth, Joseph was impressively named to Team Canada for the 1996 World Cup (starter), 1998 Olympics, and 2002 Olympics. That goes to show how highly he was viewed in the game.
The answer: G, Curtis “Cujo” Joseph
Billy Smith and Curtis Joseph, we feel, will give us one of the best (if not THE best) goaltending tandems in the ATD this year.
Over 450 regular season victories, Joseph’s .909 save percentage from 1992 through 2003 placed him 5th out of all goaltenders. He placed 4th and 11th in Hart voting, and 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 8th in Vezina voting. In an era where Canada had incredible goaltending depth, Joseph was impressively named to Team Canada for the 1996 World Cup (starter), 1998 Olympics, and 2002 Olympics. That goes to show how highly he was viewed in the game.
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By far the best pure offensive LW for about 2-3 rounds now. Kovalchuck of his days.
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