ATD 2017 Draft Thread IV

[BenchBrawl]

So voting is starting tonight?

I'm allright with that.I'm leaving tomorrow morning, and no discussion has taken place since we talked about it.Check with HT18 to be sure.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

I'm allright with that.I'm leaving tomorrow morning, and no discussion has taken place since we talked about it.Check with HT18 to be sure.

Fine with me

 

[ResilientBeast]

Reminder PM has been sent voting to end Saturday

 

[tony d]

Just voted, good luck to all teams competing.

 

[Iceman]

voted

 

[Theokritos]

Last day of voting. So far I have 6 ballots.

 

[ResilientBeast]

That is kind of disappointing

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I just voted.

Though to be honest, it's easy to check out of hfboards when real hockey ends.

 

[Iceman]

I just voted.

Though to be honest, it's easy to check out of hfboards when real hockey ends.

For you it ended by Christmas right?

So how are you feeling about Hischier?

 

[Theokritos]

We're at 9 ballots and I'm off to bed now (it's almost 2 hours after midnight here). If we don't have quite a few more tomorrow when I get up, we need to expand the voting period again.

So far I have received submissions from:
Hawkey Town 18 (Consolation Final only as he's in the ATD Final himself), Iceman, jarek, King Forsberg, monster_bertuzzi, ResilientBeast, Sprague Cleghorn, TheDevilMadeMe, tony d.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I just voted for the consolation series.

 

[Theokritos]

We're at 12 ballots. I will post the results in about 4 hours from now. Until then, ballots are still welcome. (Chaosrevolver, seventieslord and Voight, I'm looking at you guys.)

 

[Theokritos]

Okay, with 13 ballots in, the last vote of the 2017 All-Time Draft ends with the following results:

2017 ATD Final:
Montreal Canadiens defeat Chicago Shamrocks 4-3
Stars: ***Doug Harvey, **Syl Apps, *Sergey Makarov

2017 ATD Consolation Final:
Toronto Maple Austons defeat Strathcona Shadows 4-3
Stars: ***Maurice Richard, **Bobby Clarke, *Vyacheslav Fetisov

Detailed voting results (without names) will be posted over the next few days.

 

[ResilientBeast]

And the regular season standings please Theokritos

 

[tony d]

Congrats Reen on winning the ATD, good team you had this yr. for sure.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Congrats Reen on winning the ATD, good team you had this yr. for sure.

Thanks tony.

 

[Theokritos]

And the regular season standings please Theokritos

Here they are:

JIM COLEMAN CONFERENCE

Bob Cole Division
1. Chicago Shamrocks 111 (10-4-6-2-0-1-1)
2. Southern Shore Breakers 90 (2-7-6-5-2-0-2)
3. Pittsburgh Bankers 84 (4-5-2-6-3-3-1)
4. Hartford Whalers 72 (2-2-6-5-4-3-2)
5. Toronto Maple Leafs 54 (4-1-1-1-6-6-5)
6. Indiana Ice 53 (1-3-1-4-5-6-4)
7. Montreal AAA 40 (1 -2-2-1-4-5-9)

Rene Lecavalier Division
1. West Lafayette Lion Tamers 115 (9-6-5-3-1-0)
2. Dukla Jihlava 85 (3-6-1-8-3-3)
3. Toledo Goal Diggers 81 (4-4-3-3-6-4)
4. Brockville Invincibles 81 (4-3-4-5-3-5)
5. Stockholm Full Throttle 76 (2-3-5-4-7-3)
6. Toronto Maple Austons 66 (2-2-6-1-4-9)

RED FISHER CONFERENCE

Foster Hewitt Division
1. Montreal Maroons 104 (8-6-4-1-3-1)
2. Cobalt Silver Kings 101 (5-8-4-3-3-0)
3. Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies 82 (2-2-9-7-0-3)
4. Amarillo Gorillas 77 (5-4-1-1-8-4)
5. Miami Screaming Eagles 64 (1-2-3-8-3-6)
6. Borussia Red Bull 55 (2-1-2-3-6-9)

Jim Robson Division
1. Montreal Canadiens 101 (7-4-6-4-1-1)
2. Regina Pats 95 (3-9-3-5-2-1)
3. Orillia Terriers 88 (5-4-6-1-4-3)
4. Vancouver Millionaires 75 (3-1-6-6-3-4)
5. Borg Collective 64 (3-3-2-1-6-8)
6. Strathcona Shadows 60 (2-2-0-6-7-6)

Note: markrander87 ranked the Coleman Conference on behalf of West Lafayette. His co-GM stoneberg was supposed to rank the other Conference, but I never received anything from him. That's why there are 24 ballots for the Coleman Conference, but only 23 for the Fisher Conference.

 

[Theokritos]

CONSOLATION BRACKET RESULTS

Jim Coleman Conference

Bob Cole Preliminary:
Montreal AAA (#7) defeat Indiana Ice (#6)
Votes in favour Montreal A: 9 (4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Indiana: 6 (4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3)

Bob Cole Consolation Round:
Toronto Maple Leafs (#5) defeat Montreal AAA (#7)
Votes in favour of Toronto ML: 6 (4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Montreal A: 5 (4-0, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3)

Rene Lecavalier Consolation Round:
Toronto Maple Austons (#6) defeat Stockholm Full Throttle (#5)
Votes in favour of Toronto MA: 8 (4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)
Votes in favour of Stockholm: 6 (4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3)

Jim Coleman Consolation Round:
Toronto Maple Austons defeat Toronto Maple Leafs
Votes in favour of Toronto MA: 9 (4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Toronto ML: 0

Red Fisher Conference

Foster Hewitt Consolation Round:
Miami Screaming Eagles (#5) defeat EHC Borussia Red Bull 04 (#6)
Votes in favour of Miami: 12 (4-0, 4-0, 4-0, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)
Votes in favour of Borussia Red Bull: 4 (4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3)

Jim Robson Consolation Round:
Strathcona Shadows (#6) defeat Borg Collective (#5)
Votes in favour of Strathcona: 10 (4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Borg: 7 (4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3; two votes without result other than series winner)

Red Fisher Consolation Round:
Strathcona Shadows defeat Miami Screaming Eagles
Votes in favour of Strathcona: 4 (4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Miami: 2 (4-1, 4-3)

ATD Consolation Final

Toronto Maple Austons defeat Strathcona Shadows
Votes in favour of Toronto MA: 5 (4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Strathcona: 4 (4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2)

 

[Theokritos]

PLAYOFF BRACKET RESULTS

Jim Coleman Conference

Bob Cole Division Semifinal:
Chicago Shamrocks (#1) defeat Hartford Whales (#4)
Votes in favour of Chicago: 14 (4-0, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)
Votes in favour of Hartford: 2 (4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)

Bob Cole Division Semifinal:
Southern Shore Breakers (#2) defeat Pittsburgh Bankers (#3)
Votes in favour of Southern Shore: 12 (4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Pittsburgh: 4 (4-2, 4-2; two votes without result other than series winner)

Bob Cole Division Final:
Chicago Shamrocks (#1) defeat Southern Shore Breakers (#2)
Votes in favour of Chicago: 10 (4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Southern Shore: 2 (4-3, 4-3)

Jim Coleman Conference Final:
Chicago Shamrocks defeat West Lafayette Lion Tamers
Votes in favour of Chicago: 8 (4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of West Lafayette: 1 (4-3)​

Rene Lecavalier Division Final:
West Lafayette Lion Tamers (#1) defeat Dukla Jihlava (#2)
Votes in favour of West Lafayette: 9 (4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Dukla Jihlava: 3 (4-3, 4-3, 4-3)​

Rene Lecavalier Division Semifinal:
West Lafayette Lion Tamers (#1) defeat Brockville Invincibles (#4)
Votes in favour of West Lafayette: 13 (4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3; two votes without result other than series winner)
Votes in favour of Brockville: 4 (4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3)

Rene Lecavalier Division Semifinal:
Dukla Jihlava (#2) defeat Toledo Goal Diggers (#3)
Votes in favour of Jihlava: 9 (4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)
Votes in favour of Toledo: 6 (4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)

Red Fisher Conference

Foster Hewitt Division Semifinal:
Montreal Maroons (#1) defeat Amarillo Gorillas (#4)
Votes in favour of Montreal M: 11 (4-0, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Amarillo: 5 (4-1, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)

Foster Hewitt Division Semifinal:
Cobalt Silver Kings (#2) defeat Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies (#3)
Votes in favour of Cobalt: 10 (4-0, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)
Votes in favour of Atlantic City: 6 (4-0, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)

Foster Hewitt Division Final:
Montreal Maroons (#1) defeat Cobalt Silver Kings
Votes in favour of Montreal M: 10 (4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Cobalt: 3 (4-0, 4-3, 4-3)

Red Fisher Conference Final:
Montreal Canadiens defeat Montreal Maroons
Votes in favour of Montreal C: 7 (4-1, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Montreal M: 2 (4-3, 4-3)​

Jim Robson Division Final:
Montreal Canadiens (#1) defeat Regina Pats (#2)
Votes in favour of Montreal C: 9 (4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Regina: 4 (4-0, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3)​

Jim Robson Division Semifinal:
Montreal Canadiens (#1) defeat Vancouver Millionaires (#4)
Votes in favour of Montreal C: 12 (4-0, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Vancouver: 4 (4-1, 4-2, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)

Jim Robson Division Semifinal:
Regina Pats (#2) defeat Orillia Terriers (#3)
Votes in favour of Regina: 12 (4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-0, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)
Votes in favour of Orillia: 4 (4-3, 4-3, 4-3; one vote without result other than series winner)

ATD Final

Montreal Canadiens defeat Chicago Shamrocks
Votes in favour of Montreal C: 7 (4-2, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
Votes in favour of Chicago: 4 (4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3)

 

[BenchBrawl]

Thanks a lot for doing this Theokritos.

Jim Robson Division
1. Montreal Canadiens 101 (7-4-6-4-1-1)
2. Regina Pats 95 (3-9-3-5-2-1)
3. Orillia Terriers 88 (5-4-6-1-4-3)
4. Vancouver Millionaires 75 (3-1-6-6-3-4)
5. Borg Collective 64 (3-3-2-1-6-8)
6. Strathcona Shadows 60 (2-2-0-6-7-6)

All six teams are underrated (though mine is probably in the right range) by their point totals due to the division of death.I mean, monster_bertuzzi's team at 75 points? A farce.There's at least 4 teams in that division that should have gotten 100 pts.A part of me enjoyed being in the division of death because you're in the middle of the action, but the result is great teams being eliminated right off the bat.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Rene Lecavalier Division
1. West Lafayette Lion Tamers 115 (9-6-5-3-1-0)
2. Dukla Jihlava 85 (3-6-1-8-3-3)
3. Toledo Goal Diggers 81 (4-4-3-3-6-4)
4. Brockville Invincibles 81 (4-3-4-5-3-5)
5. Stockholm Full Throttle 76 (2-3-5-4-7-3)
6. Toronto Maple Austons 66 (2-2-6-1-4-9)

Can't believe Brockville finished 4th.Really liked this team, VanI and Namba 17 did a great job.It was underrated all along.Brockville never had its chance to shine, like it deserved.

 

[ResilientBeast]

So all the first place teams met in their respective conference finals rather handily, so the assumption that visible seating impact voting is in doubt slightly.

Unless I'm misreading all the division finals were 1 seed v 2 seed as well

 

[BenchBrawl]

So all the first place teams met in their respective conference finals rather handily, so the assumption that visible seating impact voting is in doubt slightly.

Unless I'm misreading all the division finals were 1 seed v 2 seed as well

You're right.Hiding the rankings was unnecessary, and it led to not knowing who had home ice advantage.

 

[jarek]

You're right.Hiding the rankings was unnecessary, and it led to not knowing who had home ice advantage.

Until we did this experiment, it was impossible to know this for sure.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Until we did this experiment, it was impossible to know this for sure.

Sure, but now we can move on from that.Honestly, it's not a very important thing.

Not the time yet for this discussion, but I hope we return to every teams making the playoffs.Also, the draft and the playoffs need to finish in May at the latest.So either a faster and more rigid playoff timeframe, or we start the draft earlier.Looking at some finals they ended in May, and the draft had way more teams, so I'm not sure what happened here.I didn't feel like the draft was dragged out at all, so it's bizarre.