ATD 2017 Draft Thread II

[Hawkey Town 18]

I doubt this is who folks thought I was trading up to get but sometimes you just gotta pull the trigger and ensure you get your guy. With this acquisition not only are we getting one of the most physically dominant hockey players ever to grace this earth - we're getting another leader, goalscorer, playmaker (his VSx rating of 85.4, while good already, underrates him somewhat which I'll explain later on in the season):

Oh yeah and his booming right hand shot is the perfect completion to our top unit PP!

Eric Lindros, C.

Not that this is a huge difference at all, but where is this number coming from? HO's vs.X scores on the Numbers forum show Lindros with an 85.0

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

At his peak, I have never seen such a dominant player. He's the only guy who can out-YouTube Peter Forsberg!

I always thought they were slightly different flavours of an equally dominant centreman. In reality Lindros was Forsberg;s pear and we all know it.

 

[rmartin65]

Agreed. Pronovost was one tough SOB.

When I made the comment about injuries, it wasn't meant to sounds like a bash. I was doing a comparison between Pronovost, Johnson, and Tremblay for my pick, so I was trying to get a read on how each guy played. I just found that most bios on Pronovost talked about how much he got hurt rather that his style of play.

I ended up with the guy I wanted. All 3 of the above were very similar in terms of value, and all 3 had very different weaknesses. Tremblay's weakness of "toughness" was the one that I felt was insulated best on my current roster.

You are 100% right about what is online about Pronovost; it almost seems like his claim to fame is being injured all the time. However, I am planning on making a bio for him, and have read a couple things about his playing style, so hopefully we can get a clearer picture of Pronovost's ability.

As an aside, I looked a Tremblay a lot as well. His lack of toughness made choose Pronovost, but had I had someone like Robinson to stick him next to for a little toughness, he would have been my pick.

 

[Dreakmur]

Not that this is a huge difference at all, but where is this number coming from? HO's vs.X scores on the Numbers forum show Lindros with an 85.0

There are "weighted" charts that value some seasons more that others. I assume one is from a weighted chart and one isn't.

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

I'll pick Hod Stuart.

Good mobile and physical D, that can play at both ends of the ice, though it looks like he's more adept at the offensive side of things. He'll pair up with Horton to create a very mobile first D unit. Not many players are going to be able to drive wide and hope to outspeed these two, and if they try, itll probably end up with a meeting with the boards. Both are also good puck movers, and they'll greatly aid with the transition.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Stuart - Horton is a BIG pairing

 

[Dreakmur]

I think Hod Stuart, at this level, is a guy who is good in all areas, but not elite in any. Easy player to place anywhere in your lineup.

 

[MadArcand]

Yes you are

I got Sprague's PM literally 10 seconds after I posted the question.

Anyway, the Whalers are aware that Orr would help Espo, so they select the European one - Jan Suchy, D

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I got Sprague's PM literally 10 seconds after I posted the question.

Anyway, the Whalers are aware that Orr would help Espo, so they select the European one - Jan Suchy, D

Very solid pick.

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

Stuart - Horton is a BIG pairing

Hopefully these guys can match up against the other big and strong RWs in my division.

I think Hod Stuart, at this level, is a guy who is good in all areas, but not elite in any. Easy player to place anywhere in your lineup.

Yes, he reads like a jack of all trades kind of guy, though it seems like he's more adept at the offensive side of things. I picked him for this reason, and because he's fast and BIG. Hopefully, I now have a mobile first D pairing that's equally adept at both sides of the game.

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

Also, I don't know how many people know of this thread, but this is a great source created by overpass to help determine which side a defenceman played on during his career. However, it only encompasses the defenseman who made it on the HOH top-60 list.

 

[Dreakmur]

Also, I don't know how many people know of this thread, but this is a great source created by overpass to help determine which side a defenceman played on during his career. However, it only encompasses the defenseman who made it on the HOH top-60 list.

Good to see the left-handed guy I just jammed on the right side actually played there during his career

 

[Namba 17]

Anyway, the Whalers are aware that Orr would help Espo, so they select the European one - Jan Suchy, D

Suchy - Vasiliev is a solid pair. Vasiliev was one of the best defensive D-men (who had great first pass and was able to score too) and Suchy - one of the best offensive. Great duo.

 

[King Forsberg]

Well I've never had back to back picks in the ATD before so I was hoping to take advantage of it. Unfortunately Lindros was part of that plan! I'll have my picks very soon.

 

[King Forsberg]

Here we go.

Nels Stewart,C

BIO

 

[King Forsberg]

And...

Henrik Zetterberg, C/LW

BIO

 

[jarek]

I wanted Lindros to create the Legion of Terror with Joliat and Richard.

 

[Namba 17]

Brockville Invincibles select Ernie "Moose" Johnson, D

- 5'11, 185 lbs
- Member of the HHOF
- Stanley Cup Champion (1906, 1907, 1908, 1910)
- Stanley Cup Finalist (1916)
- ECAHA 2nd All-Star Team (1907, 1908)
- PCHA 1st All-Star Team (1912, 1913, 1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1919)
- PCHA 2nd All-Star Team (1921)
- 8th, 10th in Scoring in two ECAHA Seasons (1906, 1907)
- Top-5 in Scoring by NHA Defensemen Twice (3rd, 5th)
- Top-3 in Scoring by PCHA Defensemen Four Times (3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd)
- Top-4 In Stanley Cup Scoring Twice (1st-1908, 4th-1907)
- Led all Defensemen in Playoffs in Points with 2 (1916 - including NHA and PCHA and Stanley Cup games)
- Named to the 1893-1926 All-Star Team on Defense by historian and author Charles C. Coleman

 

[BenchBrawl]

Brockville Invincibles select Ernie "Moose" Johnson, D

- 5'11, 185 lbs
- Member of the HHOF
- Stanley Cup Champion (1906, 1907, 1908, 1910)
- Stanley Cup Finalist (1916)
- ECAHA 2nd All-Star Team (1907, 1908)
- PCHA 1st All-Star Team (1912, 1913, 1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1919)
- PCHA 2nd All-Star Team (1921)
- 8th, 10th in Scoring in two ECAHA Seasons (1906, 1907)
- Top-5 in Scoring by NHA Defensemen Twice (3rd, 5th)
- Top-3 in Scoring by PCHA Defensemen Four Times (3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd)
- Top-4 In Stanley Cup Scoring Twice (1st-1908, 4th-1907)
- Led all Defensemen in Playoffs in Points with 2 (1916 - including NHA and PCHA and Stanley Cup games)
- Named to the 1893-1926 All-Star Team on Defense by historian and author Charles C. Coleman

Great pick, had hope he would fall to me.

 

[tinyzombies]

I'll take the hairdo with one of my picks: Doug Wilson.

Next pick: Didier "Cannonball" Pitre

"Playing on what was one of the most powerful forward lines of all time with Newsy Lalonde (in his place I have the modern Lalonde - Mark Messier) and Didier Pitre, Joe "Phantom Joe" Malone shifted to left wing to accommodate the great Lalonde, and was the NHL's first scoring leader, registering 44 goals in 20 games..."

Pitre was 5-11, 185, and was lightning on skates "going forwards and backwards." He was born in 1883, so seventies' height/weight adjustments make him:

A.D.-1889 - +5”, 50 lbs

So... 6-4, 235... and he could skate. So, pretty good to deal with Chara (who is in my division). Great playoff performer and Cup champion in 1916 (Habs' first Cup). Was first player ever signed by the Canadiens.

 

[Namba 17]

Great pick, had hope he would fall to me.

In our division, full of great tough RW, we need LD with speed and defensive abilities, who would be tough enough at the same time.
I think, we got everything in Johnson. He was also known for his abilities to play with injuries and through pain, which is important, when you play against Howe and Richard And he could hurt too

 

[jarek]

Alright I've consolidated just about all the useful information I could find on Eddie Gerard. Here it is: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=127411365&postcount=9

The case for him essentially is his placement on all time teams by a number of reputable sources. He was regarded as just as good as Cleghorn during his 6 year stretch as a defenseman by a number of those sources.

 

[jarek]

I'll take the hairdo with one of my picks: Doug Wilson.

Next pick: Didier Pitre

"Playing on what was one of the most powerful forward lines of all time with Newsy Lalonde (in his place I have the modern Lalonde - Mark Messier) and Didier Pitre, Malone shifted to left wing to accommodate the great Lalonde, and was the NHL's first scoring leader, registering 44 goals in 20 games..."

Please make a note of this, tz has made both his picks.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Please make a note of this, tz has made both his picks.

And please also note that since TZ edited the post with the Wilson pick to make his second pick, the clock for the next GM did not start until 9:49 pm EST.


*In the future it would be best if all GM's made brand new posts when announcing picks to avoid any clock confusion.

 

[Stoneberg]

West Lafayette is pleased to select Syd Howe LW/C, who we think will be a good fit on a line with our unrelated Howe.