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As a fan what is your "Realistic" expectation for next season? What you want?

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What is your expectation next season?

  • Cup Run -> Go All In

    Votes: 117 40.5%

  • Team makes playoffs -> Then whatever happens, it happens.

    Votes: 95 32.9%

  • Team will struggle to make playoffs

    Votes: 26 9.0%

  • Same management group -> I want them to take step back, retool and re-evaluate (cap, team, etc...)

    Votes: 5 1.7%

  • New management group -> I want them to take step back, retool and re-evaluate (cap, team, etc...)

    Votes: 39 13.5%

  • Other (post in thread)

    Votes: 7 2.4%
  • Total voters
    289
zeke said:
of course it means internet discussion board posting. and twitter, and call-in radio. all of it.



you didn't?
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The scope of the Leafs fanbase is definitely encapsulated in internet discussion boards, Twitter, and call in radio shows that no longer exist..
 
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Expectation?

Repeat regular season success, 1st or 2nd round exit depending on quality of opponent. Inconsistent goalies in part due to the firing squad they're about to face with that blue line.

What I want?

New leadership if we make it to the allstar break with the same blue line as today. Quicker if the goaltending falls apart.


I used to think Dubas was a smart man, over the last year I've realised he's a stubborn young man who either thinks he's the smartest person in the room or has some terrible people in his corner steering him, said room being filled with Soo nepotism I can't really say that's out of the question.
 
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Bomber0104 said:
The scope of the Leafs fanbase is definitely encapsulated in internet discussion boards, Twitter, and call in radio shows that no longer exist..
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yep all the leafs fans on any public media are definitely not a representative sample.
 
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PROUD PAPA said:
It would be nice to face a wildcard team this year. Not that they're pushovers but any boost to our chances is a good thing.
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slozo said:
To be perfectly FAIR - I would at this point be happy with a first round win, not because of anything else other than just finally winning a round. After what has seemed like decades of utter failure. That doesn't mean that I am not a fan that expects a lineup like ours deserves to be held to the highest standard, because I do - anything other than Stanley Cup winner is not good enough at some point when the talent is there; BUT . . . after not even getting past the first round for this long, you need to take the first step before you dream about the 4th.
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One way or another we are going to have to beat some good teams in the playoffs and win multiple rounds before we can be considered a really good & successful team. Easy matchups and just win one round are just low bar "feel good" (a little better) objectives and aren't much in the way of measures of true success.
 
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CabanaBoy5 said:
I just read that article from the Athletic and find it interesting how the narrative from some hf posters and media is that we’ve regressed and even may not make the playoffs. We’re just coming off a 115 pt season and lost a couple of bottom six and an inconsistent injury prone goalie, yet somehow our team has regressed. It’s really laughable the lengths they go to push their anti Leaf agendas.
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Sure I agree, but goaltending is a key position and we signed a couple of question marks. Let's hope it pans out. If Murray is to be our tender, he's going to have to stay healthy for a long stretch, something he hasn't been able to do for quite some time.
 
I want Leafs to win the division. Regular season, despite all these comments is very important. I like their chances at winning the division better this year than last.
 
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All I want is at least 1 series wins. If leafs get dumped in the first round again there has to be major change as it likely a mental thing

Step 1. Fire Keefe
Step 2. See if Dubas is willing to to change the core and have a major shakeup, if he isn't he gets fired too
Step 3: reduce the top heavy nature of the team with over half the cap tied up in a couple forwards who can't get it done in the playoffs
 
Diatonic said:
One way or another we are going to have to beat some good teams in the playoffs and win multiple rounds before we can be considered a really good & successful team. Easy matchups and just win one round are just low bar "feel good" (a little better) objectives and aren't much in the way of measures of true success.
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Not sure where you got the idea winning a round would satisfy me.
My thinking is despite all the positive "we believe in each other" rhetoric we hear after each loss i don't believe it for a moment. These guys are filled with self doubt and nothing other than winning a round will change that. Heck, even winning a round might not suffice but there is a reasonable possibility that it could lead to genuine belief among those in the room.
I really don't care if a series win comes against the 8th seed or the Stanley Cup favorites as long as it nets a positive result between their ears.
 
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Diatonic said:
One way or another we are going to have to beat some good teams in the playoffs and win multiple rounds before we can be considered a really good & successful team. Easy matchups and just win one round are just low bar "feel good" (a little better) objectives and aren't much in the way of measures of true success.
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That's true . . .. in a bubble.
But with our EXACT HISTORY - it's a much different story.

First round is a MASSIVE HURDLE that needs to be surmounted; after that it's gravy - at least for that year.

I feel history will repeat itself . . . almost exactly.
Not good. . .
 
Realistically, make the playoffs. I don't believe that it is as much of a shoo-in as some believe.
I don't believe the Leafs have the talent level to win consistently in the playoffs.
Matthews, Marner, and Tavares are Star talented players. Nylander, Rielly, Muzzin (healthy), Brodie, and Gio are very nice pieces. But until the Leafs have a bonafide number one dman and /or a number one goalie they will continue to perform the same reach around that they do every season.
DEFENCE wins championships.
 
The goalie and defense situation has been and will continue to be an ongoing problem. Given how top-heavy their forward group is in terms of the cap situation and production I think this year we will see their goalie and defensive situation take a step back as teams like Ottawa prove to be more competitive and start nipping on the heels of the 3 spot in the division.

I think Toronto will struggle to get into a playoff spot due to their goals against taking more of a hit this year and other teams in the conference doing a better job of figuring out how to shut down players like Matthews and Marner.
 
Batrous said:
The goalie and defense situation has been and will continue to be an ongoing problem. Given how top-heavy their forward group is in terms of the cap situation and production I think this year we will see their goalie and defensive situation take a step back as teams like Ottawa prove to be more competitive and start nipping on the heels of the 3 spot in the division.

I think Toronto will struggle to get into a playoff spot due to their goals against taking more of a hit this year and other teams in the conference doing a better job of figuring out how to shut down players like Matthews and Marner.
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Leafs lit it up last year despite having a GAA above expected in the negatives. It is unlikely that the leafs will suffer a lot worse in goaltending (Murray was positive) if there isn't an injury problem. As for shutting down Matthews and Marner, I'm afraid that this kind of scenareo in only in a dream world. There is zero chance these guys dont remain among the most dangerous in the league if they stay healthy
 
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I like the current team.

We have superstar talents.

So much iffyness though in goal and on D......

I can't wait to see what happens. Hoping for the best, well prepared for the worst, I'm a Leafs fan that's for sure.

It's just nice to have something to look forward to. Not a lot going on right now in my world but I'm ok with that.
 
CabanaBoy5 said:
I just read that article from the Athletic and find it interesting how the narrative from some hf posters and media is that we’ve regressed and even may not make the playoffs. We’re just coming off a 115 pt season and lost a couple of bottom six and an inconsistent injury prone goalie, yet somehow our team has regressed. It’s really laughable the lengths they go to push their anti Leaf agendas.
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Its good considering that Kyper said last years roster was the weakest in years.
Please, please continue on...
 
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