Confirmed with Link: Artturi Lehkonen (50% Retained) Traded to Colorado for a 2024 2nd Round Pick & Justin Barron

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When you watch Byram play, you quickly understand why the Avalanche were willing to give up as highly regarded defensive prospect as Barron. With Makar and Byram, the Avalanche have two elite puck moving defensemen. Most teams don't have one. Is it any wonder that the Avalanche are overwhelming their opposition these playoffs? Makar and Byram, will be the cornerstone of future Team Canada's for the next decade.

Don’t forget that Samuel Girard is injured for them too.
 
Don’t forget that Samuel Girard is injured for them too.

Girard played a big part in why they fell apart the previous two playoffs. He's a good player, but the Girard + big D-man pair was the one that the Stars and Golden Knights abused. Its actually not all that surprising that they're doing what they're doing now with Girard out of the lineup.

Girard also really struggled this season.
 
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Girard played a big part in why they fell apart the previous two playoffs. He's a good player, but the Girard + big D-man pair was the one that the Stars and Golden Knights abused. Its actually not all that surprising that they're doing what they're doing now with Girard out of the lineup.

Girard also really struggled this season.
Not entirely true. He definitely struggled for a large portion of the season but towards the end and especially in the playoffs he was our best defender behind Cale for sure. G is a common scapegoat for Avs fans but he's a very important piece for us, having Makar/Byram/Toews makes losing him not as costly but important no nonetheless.
 
Girard can play RD even if he is a leftie. Plays 20 + minutes per game. He would do fine with Edmundson as his D partner. I'd certainly trade pick #26 + (???) for him.
 
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The year that he added Martinsen, Ott, and King was an absolute joke, none of those guys helped the team at all but the sad thing is that MB thought that they were the missing pieces.
That was so funny. Markov aging like a fine wine, signing Radulov for free, Danault emerging out of thin air as Plekanec declined, huge years for Price and Weber.

All that stuff went right and the team desperately needed some scoring punch, but Bergevin's big deadline move was to trade for three players who went on to play a combined 33 NHL games after the 16-17 season. And by a combined 33 NHL games I mean Martinsen played 9 and 24 NHL games in the follow two seasons and King/Ott were both done the second that season ended lmfao
 
Talking about Armia i'd overplay him this year. There's only 2 years remaining after next season so if he has a good season next year a team might be interested considering how well he did for us in the scf run. He is another of those guys too old for the rebuild. By the time it is done he'll be getting close to the middle of his 30ies.
More Armia is great for the tank too
 
Of course not. But he is mobile, can QB a PP and can rack 30-40 points each season.
Maybe the Avs move him, if they win it all without him, and make a push to keep Manson, Kadri, Lehkonen, Burakowsky, Nikushin, etc...

They can't keep everyone. Maybe Girard is someone they sacrifice.
 
Maybe the Avs move him, if they win it all without him, and make a push to keep Manson, Kadri, Lehkonen, Burakowsky, Nikushin, etc...

They can't keep everyone. Maybe Girard is someone they sacrifice.
They certainly don't need more talented offensive d-men with Makar, Toews and Byram aboard. And they need $$$ to re-sign some of their UFA r RFA players. I think they don't have a 1st round pick this year. Trading Girard could very possibly give them that. The problem is that Avs had a tendancy of playing Girard with Makar, two smallish d-men. In MTL, I would put him with Edmundson or , at worst Savard.
 
They certainly don't need more talented offensive d-men with Makar, Toews and Byram aboard. And they need $$$ to re-sign some of their UFA r RFA players. I think they don't have a 1st round pick this year. Trading Girard could very possibly give them that. The problem is that Avs had a tendancy of playing Girard with Makar, two smallish d-men. In MTL, I would put him with Edmundson or , at worst Savard.

It would take Calgary's 1st + ?.

Edmundson is one of the few players we have that are on a good contract that they may want...

The question mark would have to be a prospect like Struble and/or a 2nd...
 
It would take Calgary's 1st + ?.

Edmundson is one of the few players we have that are on a good contract that they may want...

The question mark would have to be a prospect like Struble and/or a 2nd...

No problem ! Habs cannot keep them all.

Of course, Petry must go. Girard's salary cap is 5M $ for another 4-5 seasons.
 
No problem ! Habs cannot keep them all.

Of course, Petry must go. Girard's salary cap is 5M $ for another 4-5 seasons.

Assuming we can't go into the season assuming Price won't play, we're already 5M over the cap. I think Hughes would move Petry and Anderson to make the salary cap work for the right piece to the future core.

I like Girard but it's now two playoffs in a row he's not much of a factor. Do we gamble on a small dman? I do if the price is right.

Imagine Eddie is the main piece and we go super young on D:

Girard - Baron
Guhle - Savard
Romanov - Harris
Shue, Wideman
 
Of course not. But he is mobile, can QB a PP and can rack 30-40 points each season.
Apparently, you’ve just describe Guhle. Why surrender, as you earlier suggested, a draft choice which could be bundled with other assets to secure a higher draft pick who may have a much higher upside than the undersized and often abused Girard?
 
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Assuming we can't go into the season assuming Price won't play, we're already 5M over the cap. I think Hughes would move Petry and Anderson to make the salary cap work for the right piece to the future core.

I like Girard but it's now two playoffs in a row he's not much of a factor. Do we gamble on a small dman? I do if the price is right.

90% of the posters here don't care about size. They want a mobile puck carrier. Girard is exactly that. The rest of the D is quite big, and will get bigger in the future.

Apparently, you’ve just describe Guhle. Why would surrender, as you earlier suggested, a draft choice which choice could be bundled with other assets to secure a higher draft pick who may have a much higher upside than the undersized and often abused Girard?
Girard can play right side where Habs are lacking resources, especially if Petry is traded. Guhle is a totally different type of player.
 
90% of the posters here don't care about size. They want a mobile puck carrier. Girard is exactly that. The rest of the D is quite big, and will get bigger in the future.
We'd have Harris and Girard so far as our undersized D.

I think two should be the limit, but perhaps really 1 should be the limit.
 
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We'd have Harris and Girard so far as our undersized D.

I think two should be the limit, but perhaps really 1 should be the limit.
Avs had three. Two is fine as long as they are not playing together. Harris has still lots to prove.
 
90% of the posters here don't care about size. They want a mobile puck carrier. Girard is exactly that. The rest of the D is quite big, and will get bigger in the future.


Girard can play right side where Habs are lacking resources, especially if Petry is traded. Guhle is a totally different type of player.
You mean he isn’t a dominant puck moving defenceman? Careful or you’re going to bust a few peoples’ balloons with such heresy.
 
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...prying Girard from the Avs won't be easy, as he is an important piece for them, even with Makar & Byram...we need to pretty much go full rebuild and just let our kids play, imo...sell off the older pieces we have and rebuild properly...
 
You mean he isn’t a dominant puck moving defenceman? Careful or you’re going to bust a few people’s balloons with such heresy.
In Junior ? Yes. We don't know yet how it's gonna translate at NHL level yet. But Girard is quicker, more agile. Smaller and Less strong, of course.

...prying Girard from the Avs won't be easy, as he is an important piece for them, even with Makar & Byram...we need to pretty much go full rebuild and just let our kids play, imo...sell off the older pieces we have and rebuild properly...
Girard is only 24 years old. Avs are about to win a Cup without Girard. Makar, Toews and Byram fills largely their quota of puck moving d-men.
 
Girard played a big part in why they fell apart the previous two playoffs. He's a good player, but the Girard + big D-man pair was the one that the Stars and Golden Knights abused. Its actually not all that surprising that they're doing what they're doing now with Girard out of the lineup.

Girard also really struggled this season.
I think that's a rather harsh criticism of Girard. He's not a #1 like Makar or Hedman, but he's a solid mid-pair Dman. He would be a very welcomed addition to the Avs roster.
Avs are doing what they are without him because they're deep and a legit cup contender team.
 
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In Junior ? Yes. We don't know yet how it's gonna translate at NHL level yet. But Girard is quicker, more agile. Smaller and Less strong, of course.


Girard is only 24 years old. Avs are about to win a Cup without Girard. Makar, Toews and Byram fills largely their quota of puck moving d-men.
Plus Manson has really emerged. That's a great top 4.

They should definitely try to move Erik Johnson, if they can get him to waive his NTC.

Most teams that try to repeat end up having 1 or 2 sub 1M dmen in their top 6 for cap reasons.
 
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