Confirmed with Link: Artturi Lehkonen (50% Retained) Traded to Colorado for a 2024 2nd Round Pick & Justin Barron

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Lehky finally got to play his first game as an Av and despite shaking off some rust we already love him. Stoked to see Barron get his first point with you guys. He's gonna be a stud for many years to come. Much love 🤟

I'm sure you will. Impossible not to love. Perfect complementary player. That might sometimes frustrate you when he's not on offensively but don't let that affect you how great he is everywhere else. You've got a great one.
 
Lehky finally got to play his first game as an Av and despite shaking off some rust we already love him. Stoked to see Barron get his first point with you guys. He's gonna be a stud for many years to come. Much love 🤟

His forecheck and 200' game is very underrated. He's going to cause a lot of trouble for the opposing teams D and I'm curious to see who you guys have him playing with? Newhook and Burakovsky? What happens when MacKinnon is back?

Looks like Lehkonen got both PK and PP time. I'm a bit surprised he got PP time
 
Well he's a lot better than all of wingers except Caufield. That's the problem.
Pitlick > Lehkonen.

But yeah, we got problems.

Maybe we get a C at the draft and eithe Evan's or Dvo move to the wing, bringing the grand total to 2 wingers better than lehk.

Then you hope Poehling, Farrell, Roy and others can emerge in 2 years.
 
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Pitlick > Lehkonen.

But yeah, we got problems.

Maybe we get a C at the draft and eithe Evan's or Dvo move to the wing, bringing the grand total to 2 wingers better than lehk.

Then you hope Poehling, Farrell, Roy and others can emerge in 2 years.
Pitlick looks very good. But I need to see this production keep up. He's definitely nowhere near Lehkonen defensively. Offensively, he looks great and he's definitely been a surprise since we've acquired him.

Hopefully it continues. Based on his overall play, even when he's not producing, I think it will.

Even still, those two are paid peanuts (CC and Rem). We have 6 wingers who make more than Lehkonen and are just not high quality players at this point. Byron, Gallagher, Hoffman, Armia, Anderson, Drouin.

So much cap for so little production.
 
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Pitlick looks very good. But I need to see this production keep up. He's definitely nowhere near Lehkonen defensively. Offensively, he looks great and he's definitely been a surprise since we've acquired him.

Hopefully it continues. Based on his overall play, even when he's not producing, I think it will.

Even still, those two are paid peanuts (CC and Rem). We have 6 wingers who make more than Lehkonen and are just not high quality players at this point. Byron, Gallagher, Hoffman, Armia, Anderson, Drouin.

So much cap for so little production.

Yeah we have major problems. I don't see this quick turnaround that everyone is talking about.


I don't think Hughes does either. He won't publicly talk about a full rebuild. But he says there's a vision that they won't sway from even if there's success in a 10 game stretch - that vision may be a full rebuild.
 
His forecheck and 200' game is very underrated. He's going to cause a lot of trouble for the opposing teams D and I'm curious to see who you guys have him playing with? Newhook and Burakovsky? What happens when MacKinnon is back?

Looks like Lehkonen got both PK and PP time. I'm a bit surprised he got PP time

Yeah with MacK out it's forced Newhook into a top-6 role which he's just clearly not ready for considering he cannot drive play against top competition. We were all very excited to see Lehky next to Kadri, but that may not happen now depending on the severity of MacK's injury. And yeah he's on PP2, but more out of necessity than anything else. I doubt he'll still be there once MacKinnon and Landeskog are healthy.
 
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Yeah we have major problems. I don't see this quick turnaround that everyone is talking about.


I don't think Hughes does either. He won't publicly talk about a full rebuild. But he says there's a vision that they won't sway from even if there's success in a 10 game stretch - that vision may be a full rebuild.

If Hughes/Gorton managed to make Molson understand that the team is at a turning point with the aging core letting the new one take the reigns, that the 2023 draft may be a '2003 type draft' and that those 2 combined makes it we're in the spot where we may benefit from the top of that draft (I mean, they know it's a great draft, they even got another '23 1st rounder), this may be a quicker turnaround that we may expect, through a quick prospect refill. But yeah, I don't see us suddenly being contenders next year, it'll take 2-3 years at least...
 
Yeah we have major problems. I don't see this quick turnaround that everyone is talking about.


I don't think Hughes does either. He won't publicly talk about a full rebuild. But he says there's a vision that they won't sway from even if there's success in a 10 game stretch - that vision may be a full rebuild.

There's no quick turnaround when it comes to winning games. It takes time to build a team. Likely a good 5 years. But there's a quick turnaround when it comes to finishing bottom 5. You don't have to draft top 3 for 10 years to build a good team. 3 years can be enough if your GM knows what he is doing. I think this draft and next draft might be enough considering we have already Suzuki and Caufield. After that we can look at building the team around what we have which yes will take some time. For next season i would keep selling and acquiring picks (2023 and 2024) and young players. But after next year i would look at building the team slowly and progressively. I think trying to win next season would be a mistake.
 
There's no quick turnaround when it comes to winning games. It takes time to build a team. Likely a good 5 years. But there's a quick turnaround when it comes to finishing bottom 5. You don't have to draft top 3 for 10 years to build a good team. 3 years can be enough if your GM knows what he is doing. I think this draft and next draft might be enough considering we have already Suzuki and Caufield. After that we can look at building the team around what we have which yes will take some time. For next season i would keep selling and acquiring picks (2023 and 2024) and young players. But after next year i would look at building the team slowly and progressively. I think trying to win next season would be a mistake.
Agreed
 
Pitlick > Lehkonen.

But yeah, we got problems.

Maybe we get a C at the draft and eithe Evan's or Dvo move to the wing, bringing the grand total to 2 wingers better than lehk.

Then you hope Poehling, Farrell, Roy and others can emerge in 2 years.
In what world Pittlick is better then Lehkonen ? Pittlick is starting to be really overrated
 
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Pitlick is terrible defensively. He's been a pleasant surprise on the offensive side of the puck, but defensively he's worse than Drouin.
Yes he is a pleasant surprise this season but he will probably won't be here in 2 years. His shooting % is way to high so we know he won't continue like that and he got every offensive opportunity to produce here, a little bit like DD when he 1st arrived. He definitely deserve a shot next year but my expectation won't be high with him
 
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In what world Pittlick is better then Lehkonen ? Pittlick is starting to be really overrated
We'll definitely have to see.

But if I were building a team right now I'd take my chances on Pitlick over a known commodity like lehkonen.

Very different players for different roles ultimately though.
 
I think Av fans are setting themselves up for disappointment, and I'm allowed to articulate that.
You're allowed to articulate anything you want, it was just a really shitty response is all.

Guy is coming in expressing excitement over a player they got and wishes us luck with our new acquisition and then you shit on the player lol.
 
You're allowed to articulate anything you want, it was just a really shitty response is all.

Guy is coming in expressing excitement over a player they got and wishes us luck with our new acquisition and then you shit on the player lol.

Yeah I could have been better... just giving him my 2 cents about the player ... I am appreciative of posters from other forums coming in with honest opinions for honest discussions about players, strategy etc.... I just wanted him to see a no-b.s. opinion about the player they just got...
 
We'll definitely have to see.

But if I were building a team right now I'd take my chances on Pitlick over a known commodity like lehkonen.

Very different players for different roles ultimately though.
Yes different player, but Pittlick need to be in a offensive role to be useful and on a good team, I think you need to have better offensive player then him. His shooting % is at 27 % this season, what is the highest in the league for a player with 15 game and + and by far. Like I said, he deserve a chance next year but I won't put the expectation high.
 
Yes different player, but Pittlick need to be in a offensive role to be useful and on a good team, I think you need to have better offensive player then him. His shooting % is at 27 % this season, what is the highest in the league for a player with 15 game and + and by far. Like I said, he deserve a chance next year but I won't put the expectation high.

I hope he can be at least a non-defensive liability because I'm not expecting a big top six offensive producer, more a good secondary scorer from the 3rd line that also increases our team speed...

Of the 4 offensive forwards that we have that are part of the future imo (Suzuki, Caufield, Pitlick, Anderson), I'm more concerned about Anderson than Pitlick.
 
I hope he can be at least a non-defensive liability because I'm not expecting a big top six offensive producer, more a good secondary scorer from the 3rd line that also increases our team speed...

Of the 4 offensive forwards that we have that are part of the future imo (Suzuki, Caufield, Pitlick, Anderson), I'm more concerned about Anderson than Pitlick.
Not my, Anderson brings a lot even when he's not producing (even if he's not the more consistant). There's not a lot of player that can brings what he bring when he's on his game. Pitlick is a type of player that you can find everywhere and that is usually passengers in your team. On a bottom team, he can have a role.
 
With all due respect Lehkonen is the better player right now.
Pitlick has upside to surpass Lehkonen.
One was waived, one was traded for by the team with the best record in the league

I have no problem with everyone having their own opinion.

But yeah, I could get into a debate about who's better right this second. But it's an irrelevant question to me, because we suck right this second. So I'm only concerned about the long term when evaluating players.
 
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Pitlick better than Lehkonen???

Your hockey knowledge needs work.
Don’t think we should compare those 2 players. I mean. Both are 3rd line winger. Both have their weakness/strenght. In offensive zone. Pitlick has a better offensive flair, better playmaker. Lehkonen is better on the forechek, but his shot is not really often on target. On d zone, lehkonen is better and on the PK. At the end, they are both conplimentary player
 
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