Player Discussion Artemi Panarin

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And I disagree that that’s not much money.
Then you're wrong or what I think is happening is you are missing the context of this conversation . We are not talking about a human beings salary in a vacuum. For a regular person, 1 M dollars is a lot to give up, sure. If we were having a basic conversation about a human beings salary then we'd be in agreement but this is not a simple discussion about a human beings salary. This a discussion about the cap hit that comes with the salary AND years compared to performance. This is more of a team building discussion tbh but it is one that heavily involves Panarin bc it's his cap hit.

Just like with arbitration, the NYR's do not go into the discussion by saying "Well we can ask Buchnevich to take just 1.5 M. That's a lot of money for a person!" They would be fool's if they did that. They have to be a bit cold and calculating because the cap forces all teams to balance a strict budget but they also have to be realistic about what a players performance merits.

The players know this, they operate within this system. They are aware of what their similarly performing peers are making which is why a guy like panarin can weigh several factors and decide to give that small percentage of the cap back. 1M per year is not a lot in the context of an 11+ M per year cap hit. It is not a lot in the context of the current cap. It's nearly 1% of the cap.

1 M is not a lot when comparing his performance and age to others making a similar amount of money. When making this comparison it shows that he is probably already overpaid and is likely to be extremely overpaid a few years down the line. This is a comparison you HAVE to make when talking about whether a player is overpaid or taking a discount. Again, just because another team was willing to be stupider that does not mean we were not also stupid. 1M is is at least something. I acknowledged this. It's just not much of something in a cap hit world when considering all factors.

This is not Shattenkirk taking less money and less years. Shattenkirk took a major discount. Not only that but due to the number of years, he was also simultaneously drastically minimizing the risk that he'd fall off a cliff and be an albatross. Panarin took a nearly negligible amount of less money and took the maximum amount of years which means that he has maximized his risk for falling off a cliff. This is important to note when evaluating how much of a discount he provided.

I think i prob just wasted my time bc I don't think you are going to engage in this discussion honestly. Not bc it's you but bc that's what HF has conditioned me to expect. But it was fun for me at least
 
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Isn't Panarin likely to make a lot more from endorsements and such while playing for us than he would with most other teams? Seems like that could more than offset the lower salary and/or any tax differences.
 
I think you over-estimate how often endorsement deals happen for players.

The best are the Lundqvist watch adverts with the rangers logo emoved so it's just a generic blue jersey. It always makes me laugh like Hank is the starter in some beer league.
 
I think you over-estimate how often endorsement deals happen for players.

big time not only do they over-estimate endorsement deals but what endorsement deals do anyone on the rangers have? Hank has a deal with bauer and gets paid to wear their stuff. but I can't remember the last time i saw him in a commercial for something
 
I think you over-estimate how often endorsement deals happen for players.

If Panarin comes to NYC and puts up the kind of points that an $11m player should, I find it hard to imagine he will not have significant opportunities to supplement his salary.
 
big time not only do they over-estimate endorsement deals but what endorsement deals do anyone on the rangers have? Hank has a deal with bauer and gets paid to wear their stuff. but I can't remember the last time i saw him in a commercial for something

I've seen Hank hawking shampoo, underwear, overpriced restaurant fare, Sportscenter, and GoPro, at the very least. I bet he's not hurting for opportunities in Sweden, either. Now is he an exceptional case because he could pass for a Norse God? Sure, but the point is that if you're a star player for the New York Rangers you get a lot of time in the spotlight. Hank will be gone soon. Somebody is going to pick up a piece of that action, and the 27 year old star forward who just signed a monster deal seems like a prime candidate.
 
Panarin has a really active Instagram. Pretty nice because not a lot of Rangers are the same. My main takeaway is that this dude is beyond thrilled to be a Ranger. Every single thing he posts has to do with the Rangers. Rangers workout clothes, Rangers jerseys, reposts of pics from his intro in NY weeks later. This dude could not be happier to be a Ranger and I love it.
 
I think you over-estimate how often endorsement deals happen for players.
Haha. True. Everyone says: he'll go to NY for less and make up the difference with endorsement deals. Then you see him on PSAs and a commercial for Di Feo Ford Chrysler.
 
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