Player Discussion Artem Zub (D) Part 2 [Extended 4 years @ $4.6M]

GCK

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Talks are ongoing. Don’t give up yet bud
I’m just pissed because I relayed something I heard and believed. I got the impression it was extremely close and we’d hear right after the rookie tournament.
 

topshelf15

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I’m just pissed because I relayed something I heard and believed. I got the impression it was extremely close and we’d hear right after the rookie tournament.
I dont know what the holdup is either,if he wants term we save on cap if he want a shot at another big contract go as high as 5 mil for 4 years ...
 

DJB

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I’m just pissed because I relayed something I heard and believed. I got the impression it was extremely close and we’d hear right after the rookie tournament.

That stuff happens when you have sources. Sometimes they are wrong if they aren’t direct Sens management.

Hey I always appreciate info. I used to give a ton but the people on forums get pissed so it wasn’t worth it to me anymore. Don’t post much info anymore because of it
 

saskriders

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That stuff happens when you have sources. Sometimes they are wrong if they aren’t direct Sens management.

Hey I always appreciate info. I used to give a ton but the people on forums get pissed so it wasn’t worth it to me anymore. Don’t post much info anymore because of it

Plus there is so much time left for him to extend. Some snag could have been hit in negotiations, but without any pressure from the clock both sides are going to be less willing to budge.
 
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playasRus

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That stuff happens when you have sources. Sometimes they are wrong if they aren’t direct Sens management.

Hey I always appreciate info. I used to give a ton but the people on forums get pissed so it wasn’t worth it to me anymore. Don’t post much info anymore because of it
I'd rather get my hopes up and be disappointed than aimlessly wonder if things are happening at all.
 

dekem

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Plus there is so much time left for him to extend. Some snag could have been hit in negotiations, but without any pressure from the clock both sides are going to be less willing to budge.
They are waiting to see if he is on the Putin 300,000 conscription list.
 

bicboi64

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I know +/- can be misleading, but the fact that Zub has been a + player for 2 bad Sens teams shows how good a player he is.
One of the few times +- is a revealing stat is if a player is an outlier on his own team. If a team has a goal differential of like -20 and a player is a plus player or if a team has a goal differential of +20 and player is a negative, that's pretty telling. Zub's plus minus is just another reason why he's such a vital piece for us
 

ottawah

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One of the few times +- is a revealing stat is if a player is an outlier on his own team. If a team has a goal differential of like -20 and a player is a plus player or if a team has a goal differential of +20 and player is a negative, that's pretty telling. Zub's plus minus is just another reason why he's such a vital piece for us
Yup. Daigle -33, next worst forward -8. At times its very telling.
 

OD99

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Pre-season. They know they are both instrumental for our success this year. They don't need to risk any injury in pre-season.
This makes no sense.

Playing 1/2 speed against guys looking to have a job in the NHL is asking to get injured.

Not sure why anyone on the Senators should be expecting they can just start to play good D when the regular season begins.

We have been terrible defensively for years. It is concerning at this point.
 

OD99

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Seeing posters getting riled up from preseason never gets old
If you mean me you have a low throwshold for someone being, "riled up".

You think the team is playing possum and has a team strategy for D they will unveil when regular season begins?

Being in 1 goal, high scoring games against the Habs is a sign their structure is not very good right now.

Stop getting riled up about the obvious and embrace reality.
 

Sun God Nika

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If you mean me you have a low throwshold for someone being, "riled up".

You think the team is playing possum and has a team strategy for D they will unveil when regular season begins?

Being in 1 goal, high scoring games against the Habs is a sign their structure is not very good right now.

Stop getting riled up about the obvious and embrace reality.
It’s preseason guy , relax
 

OD99

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It’s preseason guy , relax
It's a sign bro.

Go give your, "relax and riled up BS" to someone who is actually excited.

Or come back here when we are still giving up 3+ goals a game and looking clueless in our end in regular season and be all, "chill out everyone, it's only game 20, etc."

You are either willfully oblivious or haven't been paying attention (or don't have understanding enough to realize) the team has been garbage defensively for years and until that improves they won't be successful.

You really think preseason is just to stretch the legs? Teams aren't looking to integrate new players and work on systems? Wake up, this isn't Timbits.

Teams, and the Senators in particular, need to start the season on a high note.

Guaranteed DJ and the coaching staff aren't happy with how sloppy the overall D has been and aren't, "relaxing because it's just preseason".
 

Sun God Nika

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It's a sign bro.

Go give your, "relax and riled up BS" to someone who is actually excited.

Or come back here when we are still giving up 3+ goals a game and looking clueless in our end in regular season and be all, "chill out everyone, it's only game 20, etc."

You are either willfully oblivious or haven't been paying attention (or don't have understanding enough to realize) the team has been garbage defensively for years and until that improves they won't be successful.

You really think preseason is just to stretch the legs? Teams aren't looking to integrate new players and work on systems? Wake up, this isn't Timbits.

Teams, and the Senators in particular, need to start the season on a high note.

Guaranteed DJ and the coaching staff aren't happy with how sloppy the overall D has been and aren't, "relaxing because it's just preseason".

Ya I probably don’t understand hockey. The players who have something to prove looked good . The players that are roster locks are using the opportunity to get into game shape.

These games count for nothing and if anything the team already looks better than it has in the recent past but I’m not gonna use that to get too excited cuz it’s preseason.

Also I am not expecting us to be a top 5 Goals against team this year. Roster is still pretty young especially the blue line. As long as the team finishes in a wild card or 4-8 pts from it I will be happy with the season
 

OD99

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Ya I probably don’t understand hockey. The players who have something to prove looked good . The players that are roster locks are using the opportunity to get into game shape.

These games count for nothing and if anything the team already looks better than it has in the recent past but I’m not gonna use that to get too excited cuz it’s preseason.

Also I am not expecting us to be a top 5 Goals against team this year. Roster is still pretty young especially the blue line. As long as the team finishes in a wild card or 4-8 pts from it I will be happy with the season
Thanks for a reasonable reply and not a condescending one.

The new guys have looked good and that is important. I know these games don't mean anything but we are giving up way too many easy, high danger opportunities simply by playing bad defensive hockey.

I am not freaking out but with the recent history of this team, structure had to improve as we won't score our way to success against good teams.

Hopefully I am wrong and we see big improvement when the games count.
 
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Ice-Tray

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It’s basically warm up, there are no rewards for winning warm up except for getting warmed up and into game shape….

Except….

The guys battling for spots are putting it all on the line for obvious reasons. An injury is their last worry.

We’re actually pretty lucky this year to get to see two new stars working harder to catch up, and a bunch of new line combos at play.

The guys will turn it up several notches when the season starts.
 
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EXTRAS

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Do you guys consider Zub to be a top pairing dman? Like a #2? #3? #4? Bottom pairing?
 

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