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DutchShamrock
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Good for us. He was going to bring the patience that paid off in LA.
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Oscar Lindberg
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I had no idea that Hextall and Hakstol were two different people
DutchShamrock
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Very strange move. Definitely reading between the lines but I wonder if there was pressure from above to make a move, trade a player or fire hakstol. Hextall and Lombardi, both philly guys prior to the stint in LA, are patient, use analytics and stick to a plan. They don't get leveraged. Philly is not known for patience. They should have known who they hired, so it's very strange. The team is very up and down for 3 seasons. 10 game streaks, wins or losses, very frequently. That sounds like a coach issue. Not a GM thing.
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Bet you a soda that Washington takes him back for half salary retained for a bag of pucks and a 6th rounder. They need help on defense with Orpik out.
JT Kreider
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To think that I wanted Strome more than Tony D and the 7 pick in the two days leading up to the Stepan trade when the rumor mill really started to heat up.
So Hextall was "relieved of his coaching duties". Doesn't that sound really diplomatic? Like it's a good thing?
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First thing I thought when I saw we drafted some kid named ‘Sean Day’ was “Oh well this isn’t going to end well”.
And yes this is how I evaluate prospects. Fight me.
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First thing I thought when I saw we drafted some kid named ‘Sean Day’ was “Oh well this isn’t going to end well”.
And yes this is how I evaluate prospects. Fight me.
It is why I thought Calle Andersson was going to end up being a stud. He had the perfect name for it.
This is Hextall the GM, not Hakstol the coach.
Also, how is that Hextall gets fired and a doofus like Bergevin or Chiarelli still has a job?
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Philly has notoriously impatient ownership. As a Rangers fan I love it. Lombardi and Hextall were really doing a good job.It is why I thought Calle Andersson was going to end up being a stud. He had the perfect name for it.
This is Hextall the GM, not Hakstol the coach.
Also, how is that Hextall gets fired and a doofus like Bergevin or Chiarelli still has a job?
Inferno
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Lombardi is awful. Hamstrung his team with some awful contracts. Then Blake doubles down wioth the Kovy deal?
Awful.
I thought Hextall did a great job though, im kinda surprised they fired him.
rangers1314
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Hextall and Holmgren seem completely opposite in their view of building teams.
Hopefully Holmgren brings someone in who takes philly back to the dark ages.
Hopefully Holmgren brings someone in who takes philly back to the dark ages.
Rongomania
I use my Kakko jersey as pajamas now.
Let ‘em burn and totally f*** Ronnie Hextall. Boohoo
DutchShamrock
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That's not the whole story on Lombardi though. He took a disaster of a team and built 2 cup winners. One of the 1st gms to embrace analytics. The core was built through the draft, very few dudes with free agency. Some amazing trades, maybe some better non trades like kovalchuk.
He earned his criticism, like going way off the board for Hickey. Some deals like you mentioned. But from basement dweller to 2 cups... I think awful is harsh.
Inferno
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but was he though, i mean the first cup winning team was an 8th seed that just got nuclear hot and ran through the entire nhl. the 2nd team was what, down 0-3 in the first round? something like that. they won a lot of hockey but im not sure how much of it was thanks to Lombardi, and how much of it was just sheer luck, getting hot, or good coaching.
I dont care for what Lombardi has done. Its my opinion tho, ppl are free to disagree and I wont hold it against them ;-)
I dont care for what Lombardi has done. Its my opinion tho, ppl are free to disagree and I wont hold it against them ;-)
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As I said before , while people on the main boards were debating Zacha being a huge whiff at 6 , not a lot of attention given to Strome being a disaster for Arizona. So unlucky, if only Matthews was like a month older they would have had him or Eichel.
Tawnos
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Hextall joins many Philly GMs who have failed to adequately address the Flyers goaltending since... well, since he was their goalie.
I didn’t want to let this jewel go unnoticed. Excellent, Excellent take.
Analytics are the egg, not the chicken.
The answer is yes.
The Flyers were notoriously quick on the trigger when Mr. Snider was still alive. He was very ill for quite a while before he passed and the corporate owners stayed in the background. My information is that the corporation ran out of patience and forced the issue.
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