Around the NHL: XLX (Playoff Edition)

[haveandare]

Ugly, ugly losses for the Isles and Leafs.

 

[haohmaru]

I stand corrected, no clue where I got 7 pts from.

Callahan averaged a staggering 3:42 PP TOI/PG last year
Dupuis averaged 0:23 PP TOI/PG last year

Callahan averaged 1:48 SH TOI/PG last year
Dupuis averaged 2:16 SH TOI/PG last year

Callahan was on for 18 PPGA last year with Henrik Lundqvist in net.
Dupuis was on for 14 PPGA last year with Marc-Andre Freury and Brent Johnson in net.

Who is the more effective PKer? Callahan because he blocks shots? He's a warrior? lol

Re-read what I wrote. It's not just about TOI on the PK, it's also about the situations in which he's used. I'd argue that Callahan's 20+ TOI is actually a detriment to his game. He's always out there in the worst situations where he's needed for his defense. Pascal is a good penalty killer, no doubt. So is Callahan.

Who is put in a better opportunity to put points? Callahan who was 2nd amongst NYR forwards in PP TOI/PG on an abysmal, low percentage powerplay? Or Dupuis who was 14th amongst Penguins forwards in PP TOI/PG? How about Callahan's most linemates who were Brandon Dubinsky and Brad Richards compared to Dupuis' Staal and Sullivan?

NYR's PP has been woeful going on 3 years for whatever reason. And, honestly, I think Staal and Sullivan are roughly comparable to Dubinsky and Richards. That's not a slam dunk in the Rangers favor by any stretch. Dubinsky had a **** year last year and scored a whopping two goals this year. Jordan Staal is #2 C on most teams in this league.

Not sure how this is relevant to Dupuis who played very minimal minutes with those 2.

4 minutes per game with Crosby is 4 more than Callahan had. And how about this year?

I'm not the only Ranger fan who thinks the two are very comparable....

Your analysis didn't resemble "very comparable". I think you were trying to make it clear that Dupuis > Callahan, not that Dupuis = Callahan.

Wind the clock back to Dupuis @ 28 and Ryan Callahan @ 28 and their careers aren't even in the same ballpark. 76 goals for Dupuis, 105 for Callahan. 76 assists for Dupuis. 93 for Callahan.

A lot of this has to do with the relative strengths of the teams they play for, too. Pittsburgh is obviously a loaded team with a roster that decimates most NHL rosters by a mile. Having success with a team like that (that's been consistently at the top of the league for years) isn't isolated to players like Pascal Dupuis.

A perfect guy to use is Ruslan Fedotenko. Look at his production with the Pens and then with the Rangers in roughly the same amount of games. Pens production is roughly 25% greater. How about Jordan Staal, who went from the third line in Pittsburgh to 1st/2nd in Carolina and saw his production decrease?

Ask yourself if Dupuis was a Ranger would he have similar production? I don't think so.

 

[JohnC]

Kershaw, I understand you HATE certain players, but is there a need for you to put them down in every thread? Especially when they're good players and fan favorites? Are you trying to validate your opinion again? Do you need to put down Rangers players you hate that everyone else likes in order to prove to everyone what a genius contrarian you are?

The short answer: yes

 

[The Gloaming]

So what happened to James Neal?

Why does every thread need to be a Callahan thread?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The short answer: yes

It just drives me crazy. It screams of "look at me! I'm so smart, I think Callahan is mediocre and Brassard is garbage! Hey look at me!".

At least I got my Lundqvist hater reputation for ******** on him after he gives up bad goals or has bad games, when I'm emotional. Not on nights when he's not playing.

 

[trilobyte]

Islanders looked less than ordinary. On a few occasions, I swear none of them were even moving as Pittsburgh went to work.
They looked so out of position, just a sitting duck for the Penguins who I thought might have ended up with 7 or 8 goals.

This is where people can see whether Capuano should be on the short list for the Jack Adams. Let's see what he can do with his team. Personally, I don't think he should be anywhere near the Jack Adams based on the regular season. I know the award is for the regular season, but since I don't vote on the award, I always look at what a coach does in the real season, the playoffs.

 

[Tawnos]

Eh, I'm never shocked when an entire team gets the deer-in-headlights look when they're as young of a team as the Isles are and they're playing in their first game. I seem to remember a Pens team going down 6-1 against the Senators in their first playoff game after a rebuild in 2007. That game ended up 6-3 in the tradition of blowouts everywhere, but the feel was the same. The Penguins won game 2, but lost the series 4-1.

Those experiences are good for up and coming hockey teams. The 1980 Edmonton Oilers got swept by the Flyers too.

 

[silverfish]

LUUUUUUUU

Wow.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Islanders looked less than ordinary. On a few occasions, I swear none of them were even moving as Pittsburgh went to work.
They looked so out of position, just a sitting duck for the Penguins who I thought might have ended up with 7 or 8 goals.

This is where people can see whether Capuano should be on the short list for the Jack Adams. Let's see what he can do with his team. Personally, I don't think he should be anywhere near the Jack Adams based on the regular season. I know the award is for the regular season, but since I don't vote on the award, I always look at what a coach does in the real season, the playoffs.

Or, you can look at it as the Islanders aren't that good and he got them in the playoffs and now they're just getting exposed by a far superior squad.

 

[The Gloaming]

My first ever .gif: (For you, Kershaw)

 

[JohnC]

My first ever .gif: (For you, Kershaw)

Remind me of this: http://thanks-obama.tumblr.com/

 

[SnowblindNYR]

My first ever .gif: (For you, Kershaw)

That was the best post ever.

 

[The Gloaming]

Remind me of this: http://thanks-obama.tumblr.com/

That is awesome.

That was the best post ever.

Glad I could amuse you.

9000 posts

Think that covers it.

 

[Jabroni]

The announcer of the Sharks-Canucks game just called the Green Men the 40 year old virgins.

 

[haveandare]

Torres scores on his own goal.

 

[NYR94]

The commentator doing the Sharks-Canucks game just called the green men two 40-year-old virgins and asked if they lived in their moms' basements.

 

[aufheben]

Shark's announcers are awesome...joking that the Green Men in Vancouver live in their mom's basements and collect snow globes

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Hahn and Remenda have been one of my favorite PBP and Analysis duos since a long time ago.

Nice goal Logan

 

[aufheben]

Yea these guys are great.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

If someone has the sound byte of them about the green men please post it.

 

[trilobyte]

Shark's announcers are awesome...joking that the Green Men in Vancouver live in their mom's basements and collect snow globes

And we have no proof that they don't...

Sounds good to me, as I loooovvve to see jabs at the Left Coast socialist Canuckleheads

 

[Ryan McDonut]

millbury struggling so hard to not say something bad about the rangers

 

[Kershaw]

Kershaw, I understand you HATE certain players, but is there a need for you to put them down in every thread? Especially when they're good players and fan favorites? Are you trying to validate your opinion again? Do you need to put down Rangers players you hate that everyone else likes in order to prove to everyone what a genius contrarian you are?

I hate no players. (Pyatt may be lone exception) I just find it irritating when Rangers fans overrated them and then get on their case when they fail to meet expectations.

And what exactly are you talking about? The general consensus on here was all for trading Hagelin and Stepan early in the year when they were snakebitten and I defended them both. I defended Del Zotto for weeks. Example was when Moore missed the net 3 consecutive times on the PP with hard slap shots, yet he was getting praised on here for having a good shot. If that was Del Zotto, there would be 10 pg GDT dedicate to 'Del Zaster' themes. I've defended Lundqvist pretty much every single game. Girardi, who everyone on the board has written off, I still believe he is the 2nd/3rd best defender on the team and that we'd be so screwed without him playing half the game for us.

I just don't voice the Girardi/Del Zotto opinions as much as I used to because I'll get blasted on here for it. The two sacrificial goats on HFNYR.

 

[aufheben]

millbury struggling so hard to not say something bad about the rangers

I would give anything to punch that guy once in the face.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

To respond to the Moore part: Moore has poise and drive to shoot. DZ is terrified to and shoots crappy floaters. Hesitant as well. And not once did I see anyone want to trade Hagelin.