NHL Around the NHL - Regular Season 2017-18

[BruinsFTW]

This. When I first heard Detroit was getting a new arena I was baffled. I dont live in America and I could be absolute wrong here, but isn't the state of Michigan financially ****ed?

Didn't Illitch out of pocket for this arena? Of am I entirely mistaken?


After looking here how it's broken down.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/articl...ost-financing-of-wings-arena-here-are-answers


How is the arena's construction being financed?

The Michigan Strategic Fund will sell $450 million in two series of bonds. They will be divided into $250 million in Series A bonds that will be backed by property taxes already captured by the Downtown Development Authority. The $200 million in Series B bonds will be backed by the $11.5 million Olympia Development has agreed to pay the DDA for bond retirement.

Who will pay off the bonds?

The Ilitches, through Olympia, will pay $200 million of the bond debt. Detroit's DDA, via its property tax capture ability, will pay back $250 million of the bonds.

How long will it take to pay off the bonds?

30 years. They mature in 2045.

Are any city general fund taxes being spent on the arena?

No.

What is the Downtown Development Authority?

The DDA is the city of Detroit's economic development agency that supports project developments. It was created in 1978. The nonprofit Detroit Economic Growth Corp.staffs the DDA under a contract with the city. The DDA has used it tax capture powers to fund downtown projects such as construction of the Millender Center, Riverfront Towers, One Detroit Center and 150 West Jefferson. Property owners within the DDA district pay a 1 mill property tax to fund the basic operation of the DDA.

How does the DDA raise money?

The DDA has a roughly 1-square-mile development district encompassing much of the downtown, and expanded last year to include the arena site. The increased value of taxes already paid by property owners within that district are captured by the DDA for economic development use within the district, better known as tax incremental financing. The DDA captures the entire increased value of properties in its district.

Can the tax captures be used for anything else?

No. State law requires the money be spent on economic improvement projects within the district, and the state Legislature in December 2012 modified the DDA's structure to permit it to use its tax capture for the arena's bond debt repayment.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

2 new rule changes for the upcoming season:

• A failed offside challenge will result in a two-minute penalty against the club asking for the review.
• Teams are no longer able to call timeout after icing the puck.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/new-rule-adds-pressure-nhl-coaches-asking-offside-challenge/

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2353567


I posted this during the 1st round but had much earlier run the idea by some connected hockey people who really liked it so I'm going to take all the credit for this one... why not, right?

 

[ODAAT]

Little different read about all teams off season moves/non-moves

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/goes-brown-off-season-bizarro-meter-rankings-31-nhl-teams/

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

2 new rule changes for the upcoming season:

• A failed offside challenge will result in a two-minute penalty against the club asking for the review.
• Teams are no longer able to call timeout after icing the puck.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/new-rule-adds-pressure-nhl-coaches-asking-offside-challenge/

Do like the intent. Hopefully the 2 minute minor possibility will reduce the "was his toenail on or off the ice" type challenges. No mention of changing who is responsible for the review but it would be a missed opportunity if it has not been taken out of the linesmen's hands.

Any wagers on how long it will take teams to find loopholes to exploit?

 

[BruinDust]

I know why they did it. But we have seen them get it wrong after review. Now they want to add an extra punishment to already ****ing it up? That seems like the wrong direction to take this. If you really want to deter it just call it a failure and get rid of this.

I'd be all for that without question.

It will be interesting to see the reaction of a coach who challenges what appears to be a relatively clear-cut offside, only to have the officials make the wrong call and hand out the penalty on top of it.

 

[Over the volcano]

2 new rule changes for the upcoming season:

• A failed offside challenge will result in a two-minute penalty against the club asking for the review.
• Teams are no longer able to call timeout after icing the puck.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/new-rule-adds-pressure-nhl-coaches-asking-offside-challenge/

Like the offsides rule change - don't like the icing change.

Teams get one time out a game, let them spend it.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

The launch of a Pat Lafontaine led initiative with a "Declaration of Principles" program outlined in the SN link below. It brings 17 various hockey organizations together in an effort to help guide the hockey world in the direction for the sport via adherence to 8 guiding principles.

It received a lot of coverage north of the border with the launch carried live in Canada. A "who's who" of the games most influential past and present were in attendance. The road to this point started with a sports summit held in the hockey hotbed know as the Vatican. (The Pope is on record in acknowledging his support of the undertaking. How's that for confirmation Hockey is truly a global game.) See second SN link below for a review of the initiative and its potential impact on the game from Chris Johnson.

One of the groups first initiatives is to seek a move of the NHL entry draft age from 18 to 19. That may just set up a contentious issue for the NHL and the PA for the next round of contract negotiations.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-hockey-organizations-unveil-declaration-principles/

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhls-declaration-principles-opens-possibility-draft-age-change/

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

NBC Sports reporting George Parros will be the next NHL head of the Deparment of Player Safety. Not your prototypical goon in fulling the enforcer role during his playing days as he is a Princeton grad. Takes over a role in one of the more inconsistent and frustrating aspects of the game, especially for fans, with handling of player discipline. One area to watch as the season unfolds.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/09/07...new-head-of-nhls-department-of-player-safety/

 

[BruinDust]

The launch of a Pat Lafontaine led initiative with a "Declaration of Principles" program outlined in the SN link below. It brings 17 various hockey organizations together in an effort to help guide the hockey world in the direction for the sport via adherence to 8 guiding principles.

It received a lot of coverage north of the border with the launch carried live in Canada. A "who's who" of the games most influential past and present were in attendance. The road to this point started with a sports summit held in the hockey hotbed know as the Vatican. (The Pope is on record in acknowledging his support of the undertaking. How's that for confirmation Hockey is truly a global game.) See second SN link below for a review of the initiative and its potential impact on the game from Chris Johnson.

One of the groups first initiatives is to seek a move of the NHL entry draft age from 18 to 19. That may just set up a contentious issue for the NHL and the PA for the next round of contract negotiations.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-hockey-organizations-unveil-declaration-principles/

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhls-declaration-principles-opens-possibility-draft-age-change/

I fail to see the benefits to the sport by raising the draft age to 19.

While it certainly helps teams make more accurate assessments regarding a player's NHL potential and readiness, what exactly are the benefits to the player's themselves?

Fact is, if your 18 and good enough to earn a living playing hockey in the NHL, you should be able to do so, period, end of story. If your not good enough at 18, you won't be there.

Raising the age causes more harm than good, given the vast majority of players drafted are still playing amateur hockey or european pro the season after they are drafted.

Lafontaine rhymes off a lot of buzz-words that all have very little meaning. What are the real benefits to making this change?

 

[Gee Wally]

The launch of a Pat Lafontaine led initiative with a "Declaration of Principles" program outlined in the SN link below. It brings 17 various hockey organizations together in an effort to help guide the hockey world in the direction for the sport via adherence to 8 guiding principles.

It received a lot of coverage north of the border with the launch carried live in Canada. A "who's who" of the games most influential past and present were in attendance. The road to this point started with a sports summit held in the hockey hotbed know as the Vatican. (The Pope is on record in acknowledging his support of the undertaking. How's that for confirmation Hockey is truly a global game.) See second SN link below for a review of the initiative and its potential impact on the game from Chris Johnson.

One of the groups first initiatives is to seek a move of the NHL entry draft age from 18 to 19. That may just set up a contentious issue for the NHL and the PA for the next round of contract negotiations.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-hockey-organizations-unveil-declaration-principles/

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhls-declaration-principles-opens-possibility-draft-age-change/

I believe the move from 18 to 19 would lose in court.
Ken Linesmen 30 years ago contested that in Canadian court and was granted a restraining order. Judge ruling that once 18 it would be illegal to block a person from earning a living.

Both leagues , WHA and NHL, dropped age requirement to 18 out of fear of losing if it went all the way.
Subsequently and based on WHA relenting Linesmen dropped the suit and its been 18 since.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

I fail to see the benefits to the sport by raising the draft age to 19.

While it certainly helps teams make more accurate assessments regarding a player's NHL potential and readiness, what exactly are the benefits to the player's themselves?

Fact is, if your 18 and good enough to earn a living playing hockey in the NHL, you should be able to do so, period, end of story. If your not good enough at 18, you won't be there.

Raising the age causes more harm than good, given the vast majority of players drafted are still playing amateur hockey or european pro the season after they are drafted.

Lafontaine rhymes off a lot of buzz-words that all have very little meaning. What are the real benefits to making this change?

Have to keep in mind that it's 17 different organizations who contribute to the discussion in varying degrees. Believe the primary issue surrounding change is more of a concern for non NHL leagues such as junior, minor hockey and IIHF members. Those organizations would argue they do not realize the benefits of keeping younger budding stars in their leagues, particularly the more exceptional talents and of course extremely marketable players. The individual nation federations also often miss out on having those same talents available for international play. Every voice in each organization will have its own self interest bias in discussing these type of potential changes.

It will be interesting to watch what level of influence the group will actually have on these contentious types of issues. Will it truly have clout of just become meaningless background noise in the game?

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

I believe the move from 18 to 19 would lose in court.
Ken Linesmen 30 years ago contested that in Canadian court and was granted a restraining order. Judge ruling that once 18 it would be illegal to block a person from earning a living.

Both leagues , WHA and NHL, dropped age requirement to 18 out of fear of losing if it went all the way.
Subsequently and based on WHA relenting Linesmen dropped the suit and its been 18 since.

That's an interesting case in point for sure. Legal precedent is always a huge factor in arguing the merits to proceed in these types of situations.

The ongoing CHL minimum wage case is currently mired in a very complicated legal battle with player reps, three separate leagues that make up the CHL and of course individual team owners. A major piece contributing to that compliaction is just how many legal jurisdictions are in play at federal, provincial and state levels where these franchises operate. This initiative has the potential to involve many more at home and abroad.

 

[ODAAT]

yikes, question is, will they even fill the barn with this?

http://www.tsn.ca/senators-remove-1-500-seats-from-arena-1.849839

 

[ODAAT]

Pat Lafontaine speaking about lifting the draft age to 19 starting at 31:59 ish

http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/prime-time-sports/prime-time-sports-september-7-5pm-2/

 

[SPLBRUIN]

yikes, question is, will they even fill the barn with this?

http://www.tsn.ca/senators-remove-1-500-seats-from-arena-1.849839

A poor decision by Sens management, not very well received here in Ottawa. A bit of an overreaction to the empty seats in last years playoff run.

 

[ODAAT]

A poor decision by Sens management, not very well received here in Ottawa. A bit of an overreaction to the empty seats in last years playoff run.

agreed

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

yikes, question is, will they even fill the barn with this?

http://www.tsn.ca/senators-remove-1-500-seats-from-arena-1.849839

Seems to be a bizarre move for a professional sports team. Wonder if it's been done in any other situation? In one way it says to the faithful fans that do lay out their money on a more regular basis that we want you to pay more now to make up for the fickle ones. That's quite a loyalty program.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

Bettman and company have been subpoenaed for testimony in former NHL player Mike Pelusio's lawsuit. It is tied to injuries incurred and the handling of medical information during his playing days. The default position for pro sports executives has been avoidance when handling injury related issues that have emerged for players following their playing days. That approach is now coming to a head via the courtroom. Lots of eyes will be on how this unfolds.

"According to the three subpoenas, copies of which were obtained by TSN, Bettman has been directed to appear for a deposition on Nov. 1. Daly has been directed to appear on Nov. 2 and Lamoriello is to be deposed Nov. 3. All three depositions are scheduled for New York.

Without being subpoenaed, Bettman, Daly and Lamoriello are under no legal obligation to testify. Daniel Wallach, a Fort Lauderdale, Fla.-based lawyer whose focus is the sports industry, said that if they don’t cooperate, Stuckey could file a motion with the court to compel their appearances."

http://www.tsn.ca/subpoenas-issued-for-bettman-daly-and-lamoriello-in-peluso-lawsuit-1.851322

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I believe the move from 18 to 19 would lose in court.
Ken Linesmen 30 years ago contested that in Canadian court and was granted a restraining order. Judge ruling that once 18 it would be illegal to block a person from earning a living.

Both leagues , WHA and NHL, dropped age requirement to 18 out of fear of losing if it went all the way.
Subsequently and based on WHA relenting Linesmen dropped the suit and its been 18 since.

i think tom mccarthy was the first guy to beat this in court. the way around it is to prove the player has other place to play. nfl doesnt take 18 year old kids right?

but the real way i think this will get decided is like the ohl does... with special exemption status.

maybe you allow 18 year olds to only be drafted in first round? that way your connor mcdavid and patrick laine types can still play... but the team isnt preasured to be spending layer draft picks on crap shoots

maybe if the players agree to a later draft age... owners will increase elc contracts? that might make it fair for everyone

maybe you even create a new pro league for the best 18, 19 year olds to play in and develop? if these kids are together fans will want to watch. it will be like college basketball in states. limit the teams to around 12 or so... put them in canadian markets like saskatoon and hamilton... pay the players a decent wage... give scouts an easier time to evaluate...

the junior league might suffer but so what? they dont pay the players much anyhow.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

i think tom mccarthy was the first guy to beat this in court. the way around it is to prove the player has other place to play. nfl doesnt take 18 year old kids right?

but the real way i think this will get decided is like the ohl does... with special exemption status.

maybe you allow 18 year olds to only be drafted in first round? that way your connor mcdavid and patrick laine types can still play... but the team isnt preasured to be spending layer draft picks on crap shoots

maybe if the players agree to a later draft age... owners will increase elc contracts? that might make it fair for everyone

maybe you even create a new pro league for the best 18, 19 year olds to play in and develop? if these kids are together fans will want to watch. it will be like college basketball in states. limit the teams to around 12 or so... put them in canadian markets like saskatoon and hamilton... pay the players a decent wage... give scouts an easier time to evaluate...

the junior league might suffer but so what? they dont pay the players much anyhow.

The first round picks only option has been discussed on several fronts and has lots of merit.

The Q has the exceptional status provision as well.

 

[Rumpy]

The first round picks only option has been discussed on several fronts and has lots of merit.

The Q has the exceptional status provision as well.

They all do it's a CHL rule. Read an article about it a couple years ago that was a fun read. It went into process the kids go thru to be granted exceptional and why only the OHL had used it. I think the Q has had 1 kid since ?!? It also discussed how it was less likely to happen in the WHL and why. I forget the reasoning? John McFarland was at the time the only kid to apply and be denied.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

I believe the move from 18 to 19 would lose in court.
Ken Linesmen 30 years ago contested that in Canadian court and was granted a restraining order. Judge ruling that once 18 it would be illegal to block a person from earning a living.

Both leagues , WHA and NHL, dropped age requirement to 18 out of fear of losing if it went all the way.
Subsequently and based on WHA relenting Linesmen dropped the suit and its been 18 since.

Thanks for the history lesson, Wally!

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

Seattle reportedly set to make major announcement on plans for a new arena. Represents a big step forward in becoming a prime candidate for an NHL franchise. As per Gavin Lee of Prohockey.

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/09/seattle-to-announce-new-arena-deal.html

 

[Ben Grimm]

...NBC and NBCSN’s NHL viewership declined during the 2016–17 regular season. NBC averaged 1.23 million viewers for its 15 NHL games, down 20% from last season and the lowest NHL broadcast TV average on record (figures date back to ’93–94 season). The publication said NBCSN averaged 336,000 viewers for its 91 games, the league’s lowest average on cable TV since the ’11–12 season (332,000 viewers). Karp said this season was down 11% from 378,000 viewers in ’15–16,...

http://awfulannouncing.com/nhl/2016-17-nhl-ratings-dropped-u-s-rose-canada.html

Please use the link if the nonsense makes it unreadable.

 

[BostonBob]

Please use the link if the nonsense makes it unreadable.

Why is causing this " nonsense " to happen in the first place ???? It started being a problem about a month ago whenever I would try to C & P something.