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Hagel extends in Tampa, 8 years, $6.5m per. Crazy that he was in our org, but crazier that he makes $0.6 less than Tage and Cozens.
That is next level bonkers. Tampa is going to fall off a cliff hard within three seasons at most.
Man if Josh Bloom turns into something we'll never hear the end of it. But Botts was 1000% wrong on not offering Hagel a contract.
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Love to see it.
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That feels like an overpay, but he's also only 24.
Still can't Botts refused to sign him when the forward pipeline was a clearly busting Alex Nylander and a bunch of other misfit toys
Still can't Botts refused to sign him when the forward pipeline was a clearly busting Alex Nylander and a bunch of other misfit toys
Another great call by previous Sabres management to let this guy go. Which GM owns this? Lightning sign Brandon Hagel to eight-year, $52M contract extension
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He was drafted in 2016 by Tim Murray.
Jason Botterill opted not to sign him to an ELC before the Sabres draft rights expired as Botterill became GM on May 11, 2017 and Hagel's rights expired before the 2018 draft.
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Let's be honest, Hagel was just another prospect. Until he went to Chicago, and was actually slowly developed. Now he's in an organization that is well known for getting the most out of their players.
Jim Bob
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He had back-to-back PPG seasons and second on the team in scoring for the Red Deer Rebels after being drafted. He was a little more than just another prospect and many wanted to see him signed and were disappointed when Botterill opted to let him walk.
NHL GMs and staff get paid major dollars today for big decisions. Sorry, you blow a major call on your watch, you own it. You find a guy in the sixth round and he scores 30, you get to own that too. It's way too easy to say people got lucky. Anyone can pick a top 10 guy in the first round.
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Yeah. There were quite a few of us that scratched our heads that he wasn't offered a contract.
Not saying he would have become a $50M guy here, but surely he could have turned into SOMETHING.
I think at the time I was the biggest pro-Hagel voice on here. There wasn't a lot of chatter about him.
Failing memory wants to say he wasn't offered a contract in part because they were close to the limit at the time. In particular the Cornel/Karabeck ELCs which ate the spots in Rochester.
They should have found away to dump those guys.
Failing memory wants to say he wasn't offered a contract in part because they were close to the limit at the time. In particular the Cornel/Karabeck ELCs which ate the spots in Rochester.
They should have found away to dump those guys.
Good for Hagel turning adversity into motivation. I recall a lot of chatter that since Hagel wasn't "one of his guys" that Botterill was justified in not signing him. I was torn, he wasn't very good in his WHL games I watched so I could see them thinking that is the player and moving on. Heck, in all of that he had an non-contract camp invite to the Habs training camp and they didn't sign him either.
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Shame on the 30 GM's who passed on Brayden Point (multiple times). How could they pass on a NHL 50 goal scorer?
Hindsight is easy.......
Hagel was an uninspiring prospect at the time his rights expired.
Hindsight is easy.......
Hagel was an uninspiring prospect at the time his rights expired.
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No he wasn't. He turned out better than expected. But, if you are giving Pekar and Pu ELCs, then they should have given Hagel one. But, he wasn't Botts's guy, so...
As has been posted previously - they were close to the 50 contract limit at the time. You can't blame a GM for not signing what appeared to be a fringe prospect, that he didn't draft.
There's also the discussion to be had that Hagel could well not have developed as he did, had he remained in our system instead of being let go.
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The 50 contract limit thing is a red herring given the timing of when you need to sign a CHL draftee prior to them re-entering the draft. As long as they had one slot, they could easily have signed him. Or Budik. But, they passed on both. One looks bad in hindsight and one is fine.
And personally, I'm glad that Adams hasn't fallen into the "not my guy" thinking for a large part.
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Jacob582
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Hagel was a fringe prospect at the time. Montreal had him in camp too and didn't sign him.
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