Around the NHL: PTO Season Becomes Waiver Season

[Taro Tsujimoto]

Olofsson tra- oh wait...

 

[KeyserSoze81]

Pretty surreal to watch Eichel hoist the cup. Used to try and invision him lifting It in a Sabres uniform…

It just hurts that O’Reilly and Eichel both win their first full year off the Sabres. I’m so past the Eichel era, but it still hits home a bit.

Just sick of the losing seasons here.

I hated the teams that he was a part of. It is not necessarily his fault, but he certainly was a part of the problem. He is ultra-competitive, and the team was far from competing. His personality makes him the antithesis of a leader. With that said, I am happy to see the players that leave do well. I loved ROR and was thrilled to see him win the Conn Smythe. I disliked Eichel, but whatever, I would rather see him win it over idiots like Tkachuk.

In the end, the Sabres are better for the players that those players returned in a trade. Thompson and Tuch are bonafide first line players, and they are cultural fits. I find myself enjoying hockey more instead of constantly watching a bunch of miserable, toxic personalities skate listlessly around the ice.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Another "No Shit?!" tweet from Dregs..

 

[Fjordy]

Another "No Shit?!" tweet from Dregs..

Olofsson for Pesce

RIGHT NOW

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

I hated the teams that he was a part of. It is not necessarily his fault, but he certainly was a part of the problem. He is ultra-competitive, and the team was far from competing. His personality makes him the antithesis of a leader. With that said, I am happy to see the players that leave do well. I loved ROR and was thrilled to see him win the Conn Smythe. I disliked Eichel, but whatever, I would rather see him win it over idiots like Tkachuk.

In the end, the Sabres are better for the players that those players returned in a trade. Thompson and Tuch are bonafide first line players, and they are cultural fits. I find myself enjoying hockey more instead of constantly watching a bunch of miserable, toxic personalities skate listlessly around the ice.

There is a bit of irony that dickhead was going around the playoffs (and much of the reg season) trying to dink, dunk, hit, and hurt other guys...and then got blasted out of the finals by Kolesar. Great player for sure, but it goes to show that targeting other players can eventually get turned around on you. Playing that way will catch up to guys, and whether it's worth it in the end is just up to a coin flip. Nobody can just skate around being the biggest bully, anybody can catch you clean, so increasing those dice rolls is risky. Let's see how much of a dink he feels like being next season.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

All starts with players who want to play here, like KA has always said.

I thought he just meant that he wanted guys who won't be asking for trades, like so many have in the past decade.

But it turns out he means he wants guys who will play for less than they could get elsewhere, like McKinnon, Hedman, Kucherov, Stamkos, Landeskog, Crosby, et al. all did to help their teams win cups.

 

[debaser66]

That's correct.

A lot of us look silly now for calling the OReilly trade early, and that started off significantly worse than Krebs/Tuch have...

I am opposed to this view. A trade fulfills a certain purpose and a goal when it is made. unless the goal was to start another rebuild with trading ROR it has to be considered a failure and it was right to call it as such at the time.
I consider it quite lucky that we ended up with Tage like we did; he was nearly traded for scraps and without Granato he probably never would have been unlocked.

The Eichel trade is an example how you do a trade properly (get better immediately and for the future). Would you call it a win or would be happy if we gotten some useless cap dumps and an unready prospect that would help the team maybe in 3-4 years while missing the playoffs again season after season.
Would you call that trade a win, if after 4 years of suffering that prospect turns into an elite player, while the fanbase gets more alienated and frustrated?

 

[debaser66]

Olofsson tra- oh wait...

I saw it at the TSN site and my hopes went up for a second ;-)

 

[Gabrielor]

I am opposed to this view. A trade fulfills a certain purpose and a goal when it is made. unless the goal was to start another rebuild with trading ROR it has to be considered a failure and it was right to call it as such at the time.
I consider it quite lucky that we ended up with Tage like we did; he was nearly traded for scraps and without Granato he probably never would have been unlocked.

The Eichel trade is an example how you do a trade properly (get better immediately and for the future). Would you call it a win or would be happy if we gotten some useless cap dumps and an unready prospect that would help the team maybe in 3-4 years while missing the playoffs again season after season.
Would you call that trade a win, if after 4 years of suffering that prospect turns into an elite player, while the fanbase gets more alienated and frustrated?

I'll never call those trades wins, but there's 100% room to call them pushes if Thompson-Tuch-Krebs win the cup here. No question.

 

[Der Jaeger]

If Adams gets a 2nd for Olofsson, it's a huge win. I'm expecting a 3rd with 50% retention.

Edit: here's what I think Adams ultimately gets for Olofsson with 50% retention.

74 or 76 from St. Louis
82 from Winnipeg
90 from Pittsburgh

Anything more than that, and I'll be really happy. Maybe 52 or 57 from Seattle. That's be huge.

 

[Ace]

Whichever hockey podcast I was listening to yesterday said it best. Never listen to owners who tell you they’re ”losing” money. They always make out huge in the end. Sabres will be worth 7 times what Terry paid by the time he’s done. But also cut spending! He’s losing his shirt!

 

[Gras]

Whichever hockey podcast I was listening to yesterday said it best. Never listen to owners who tell you they’re ”losing” money. They always make out huge in the end. Sabres will be worth 7 times what Terry paid by the time he’s done. But also cut spending! He’s losing his shirt!

With these economic takes you have to be either Paul Krugman or Robert Reich just trying to figure out which one could be the closet Sabres fan.

 

[Dingo44]

With these economic takes you have to be either Paul Krugman or Robert Reich just trying to figure out which one could be the closet Sabres fan.

If I'm Robert Reich I'm lucky I can remember to remove my clothes to shower. Guy has never been right about anything.

 

[joshjull]

 

[Zman5778]

Wooooooof. Nice cap savings for a few years, then a $2.13M cap hit from 27/28 until 30/31.

Yes, 2030.

 

[Ace]

Wooooooof. Nice cap savings for a few years, then a $2.13M cap hit from 27/28 until 30/31.

Yes, 2030.

Just want to preemptively jump in with a big NO before anyone brings it up

 

[Fjordy]

Just want to preemptively jump in with a big NO before anyone brings it up

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Just want to preemptively jump in with a big NO before anyone brings it up

Still better than Bryson

 

[Ehran]

Wooooooof. Nice cap savings for a few years, then a $2.13M cap hit from 27/28 until 30/31.

Yes, 2030.

And in '25-'26 it has a one-season jump to $4.766M. Ouch.

Also, Coyotes get hit for the same time frame, but not to the same extent obviously. It does hit them for $650k in '25-'26 and '26-'27, though. Not that Coyotes ever mind a little extra cap charge to help get them to the floor.

 

[Beerz]

And in '25-'26 it has a one-season jump to $4.766M. Ouch.

Also, Coyotes get hit for the same time frame, but not to the same extent obviously. It does hit them for $650k in '25-'26 and '26-'27, though. Not that Coyotes ever mind a little extra cap charge to help get them to the floor.

Arizona also gets hit with this..

 

[Ehran]

Arizona also gets hit with this..

DANG! Losing a retention slot for 8 YEARS! Arizona can't be happy about that.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

on 1 hand an owner willing to lose might have the eichel era happen

on the other hand an owner not willing to lose might have Vancouver happen

 

[Chainshot]

on 1 hand an owner willing to lose might have the eichel era happen

on the other hand an owner not willing to lose might have Vancouver happen

Aquilini is the worst.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Arizona also gets hit with this..

I don’t agree with this. The Coyotes used a retention spot on him when they traded him to Vancouver. They should not be dinged because the Canucks bought him out. They should only be dinged for a retention spot for the original agreement.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

I agree with that as it unduly hampers teams that use retention on long term contracts. In fairness at most the original team should be penalised with retention for the length of contract