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Around the NHL: PTO Season Becomes Waiver Season

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ValJamesDuex said:
Congrats to the Golden Knights, it is quite a incredible accomplishment in six years! It shows what an ambitious owner can really do when they say they want to win a cup and actually do it.

Jack was nice to us the couple times we met him while here although it takes two in a dispute. I would even go as far to say the couple game visits to Buffalo "motivated" him to be better.

I would hope KA and the Sabres look at how strong that big top 4D as well as a experienced vet like Martinez was for them and how important their grit and depth was.

Hitting on someone like Stephenson (77OVA) for them was important as well.

They won on goalie roulette as well with Hill (who a few around these parts liked) and look good going forward with Thompson as well.
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Stephenson was acquired not drafted.
 
Pretty surreal to watch Eichel hoist the cup. Used to try and invision him lifting It in a Sabres uniform…

It just hurts that O’Reilly and Eichel both win their first full year off the Sabres. I’m so past the Eichel era, but it still hits home a bit.

Just sick of the losing seasons here.
 
The Blunder Years said:
Pretty surreal to watch Eichel hoist the cup. Used to try and invision him lifting It in a Sabres uniform…

It just hurts that O’Reilly and Eichel both win their first full year off the Sabres. I’m so past the Eichel era, but it still hits home a bit.

Just sick of the losing seasons here.
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Second for Eichel.
 
The Blunder Years said:
Pretty surreal to watch Eichel hoist the cup. Used to try and invision him lifting It in a Sabres uniform…

It just hurts that O’Reilly and Eichel both win their first full year off the Sabres. I’m so past the Eichel era, but it still hits home a bit.

Just sick of the losing seasons here.
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I forced myself to watch the entire game and ceremony until Eichel lifted the cup. I wanted to feel the pain/jealousy along with it instead of ignoring it and sticking with some narrative to make me feel better.

It sucks, no doubt. The best thing we can do is learn the lessons of what went wrong and why and hope it doesn’t happen again.
 
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MOGlLNY said:
Was more upset over ROR than I am about this tbh. I’m ready for the off season and looking forward to a competitive season.
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same here. I was upset with the ROR situation because our trade return looked like dog **** at the time ROR won the Cup. I was counting on that STL pick being pretty decent to make up trade value, and for a while it looked like it would. So it was like adding insult to injury when that pick ended up being the last pick of the 1st round. Thankfully Tage Thompson went nuts and now the trade looks much better.

I didn’t care as much about Eichel/VGK because I am already very happy with the trade return, and we were actually pretty lucky to get their 1st last year, which just happened to be their worst finish in franchise history.

So if anything, after seeing Vegas win the Cup this season I feel pretty lucky how that trade worked out with getting their 1st last year.
 
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My primary thought, on if the Sabres ever win it all, is that I want whoever's captain to say "**** your TV presentation and the cameras, we're doing a full lap as a team with this thing" after they get the cup
 
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The Blunder Years said:
It just hurts that O’Reilly and Eichel both win their first full year off the Sabres.
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Almost as much as Hasek...and what did we get in return for him? Slava Kozlov and Jim Slater. Woopie. Leaving Buffalo and having immediate success is a recurring theme of this franchise. Too bad LaFontaine didn't bail earlier, he could have won with the Rangers in 94.
 
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The Blunder Years said:
Pretty surreal to watch Eichel hoist the cup. Used to try and invision him lifting It in a Sabres uniform…

It just hurts that O’Reilly and Eichel both win their first full year off the Sabres. I’m so past the Eichel era, but it still hits home a bit.

Just sick of the losing seasons here.
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Can’t change the past losing bro - choose The glass is half full approach. We are much better spot than we were even a few years back. Just because your old girlfriend got married doesn’t mean that you should be sad about the fact your new girlfriend is much better :) hockey teams are like relationships… Just because all of the stats and “we have a lot of good players” did seem like they should work, a lot of the times they don’t work for a multitude of reasons, including bad coaching, chemistry, or just bad luck. It seems like we have the right mix right now to have a “ good relationship“ so just embrace it and stop worrying about the past
 
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Congrats to Vegas and Eichel.

Regarding Eichel winning the Cup: Vegas added a supremely talented player and just asked him to play hockey. Not lead, not wear a letter on his sweater, just play hockey. Look at the leadership in the room for Vegas. Stone, Smith, and Pietrangelo have the letters, and Pietrangelo was a Cup winning captain in St. Louis. 3 or 4 others in line to wear a letter if one of those 3 were out.

That's the lesson: don't take a young superstar and ask him to do a lot beyond hockey. Not everyone is Crosby or Toews. Leadership is mostly learned. Eichel wasn't ready in Buffalo. Vegas was smart and just asked him to play center and focus on learning his craft. Kudos to them and Cassidy, especially for calling out Eichel early on.

Sabres are being smart by keeping Okposo around until some of the younger players have learned their craft well enough to add a C to their sweater.
 
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Gabrielor said:
That's correct.

A lot of us look silly now for calling the OReilly trade early, and that started off significantly worse than Krebs/Tuch have...
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I mean, sure if winning the Stanley cup which is the ultimate goal means you lost a trade I would like to lose trades then .


Yes St. Louis lost the trade. Sure they won the cup the whole reason players play but they lost the trade :DD
 
Guys/teams just flat out kill each other in the 1st round. It's almost sad, but I guess the league is ok cuz ratings. Big hit after late hit after cheap hit...no wonder it ends up like the walking dead for some teams. It's why you don't necessarily have to be the biggest hitting/checking team, but you have to collectively be big enough to withstand the 1st or 2nd rd before guys go back to focusing on hockey without the head-hunting. It's going to be very frustrating watching the Sabres try to navigate playoff hockey and hoping they can still be effective after 2-5 guys are out or playing at 60%. I'd rather see teams playing the most important games near full strength, but wishful thinking I guess...
 
Sabresfansince1980 said:
Guys/teams just flat out kill each other in the 1st round. It's almost sad, but I guess the league is ok cuz ratings. Big hit after late hit after cheap hit...no wonder it ends up like the walking dead for some teams. It's why you don't necessarily have to be the biggest hitting/checking team, but you have to collectively be big enough to withstand the 1st or 2nd rd before guys go back to focusing on hockey without the head-hunting. It's going to be very frustrating watching the Sabres try to navigate playoff hockey and hoping they can still be effective after 2-5 guys are out or playing at 60%. I'd rather see teams playing the most important games near full strength, but wishful thinking I guess...
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We've already seen how it looks when their top defenseman is dealing with rib/back stuff and the top center has a hip pointer and other messed up things. It wasn't great.
 
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Meh, those fans would also be ignoring that the trade was inevitable. What would they prefer, holding the dude as he doesn’t play and his value diminishes? Him winning the cup shouldn’t really factor in- I have personal distaste for it, but we went with the best deal, Vegas likely won’t be the team in our way once we’re rolling, so who cares? Spilt milk at this point- Jack’s success is completely separate from the fact that we had to move em and we did.
 
Gabrielor said:
That's correct.

A lot of us look silly now for calling the OReilly trade early, and that started off significantly worse than Krebs/Tuch have...
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All it took was to have a somewhat competent coach to make the ROR trade redeemable, something that would've fixed our issues long before we "had to trade" guys.
 
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