Around The NHL: Part XXXI

[Bob Richards]

I didn't even realize that Ryan Miller was still in the league.

I feel like I've been saying, "Oh shit Ryan Miller is still around" for like 5 years now lol

 

[Boris Zubov]

And to your points, circling back to the original question, no I don't think Miller does what he's doing in Vancouver if he's still here. I'll even venture he doesn't do it in Tampa either.

I think two trades in 15 months served as a wakeup call for him, but I also think the changes to his game are fairly modest and probably owe more to what Vancouver has in place than any great progress Miller himself has made.

You could be right & maybe it's a combination of the two. However, that trade still sucked for us the day it was made & now looking back in hindsight 3 years later.

 

[LokiDog]

And to your points, circling back to the original question, no I don't think Miller does what he's doing in Vancouver if he's still here. I'll even venture he doesn't do it in Tampa either.

I think two trades in 15 months served as a wakeup call for him, but I also think the changes to his game are fairly modest and probably owe more to what Vancouver has in place than any great progress Miller himself has made.

I agree with you. It may have been lost in the wording, but I agree that his recent surge into bigger totals is a result of a perfect fit. Reverting to a 20 goal 50 player is still preferable to reverting to a 35 point player, but I also agree that Strome and Miller both lend themselves to creating the same type of headaches. Though I still think Miller would have a longer leash with fans here because “homegrown” and “jam”.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I feel like I've been saying, "Oh shit Ryan Miller is still around" for like 5 years now lol

Isn't he even older than Hank? Hank is turning 39 in March.

 

[Edge]

You could be right & maybe it's a combination of the two. However, that trade still sucked for us the day it was made & now looking back in hindsight 3 years later.

I think that’s really hard to say.

I just keep the same things on this topic, but in a nutshell McD and Miller opened up other acquisitions. In return, we got young assets that were geared for the future. I can’t say I’d undo that trade looking at what has happened since. I can’t say I’d move Lundkvist, Howden and those picks to have either guy back either.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Isn't he even older than Hank? Hank is turning 39 in March.

Ryan Miller is 40

 

[Edge]

I agree with you. It may have been lost in the wording, but I agree that his recent surge into bigger totals is a result of a perfect fit. Reverting to a 20 goal 50 player is still preferable to reverting to a 35 point player, but I also agree that Strome and Miller both lend themselves to creating the same type of headaches. Though I still think Miller would have a longer leash with fans here because “homegrown” and “jam”.

I’ll venture a guess that even if he didn’t go in 2018, he would’ve gone a year later when they signed Panarin.

And in that scenario, the results for Miller wouldn’t be very different nor would the return on a trade. That sucks to say, but it’s the most plausible prediction for me.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Isn't he even older than Hank? Hank is turning 39 in March.

Miller was drafted in 98 or 99 so yeah he’s old af

 

[Shesterkybomb]

No guarantee he would’ve had the same development curve here, but Rangers botched that one for sure. Finally drafted a forward with higher than middling top 6 potential in forever and gave him away for scraps.

Imagine him in place of Strome right now. And yes, it’s ok to cry

He said himself that getting traded by two teams was an eye opener for him and that he needed to get better before he was out of a job.

 

[Boris Zubov]

I think that’s really hard to say.

I just keep the same things on this topic, but in a nutshell McD and Miller opened up other acquisitions. In return, we got young assets that were geared for the future. I can’t say I’d undo that trade looking at what has happened since. I can’t say I’d move Lundkvist, Howden and those picks to have either guy back either.

We've had this debate before. My issue with the trade was adding Miller when the value we got in return didn't balance the equation. I would've had no problem trading him in a separate deal if they felt like he wasn't in their long term plans.

 

[bl02]

Of course the islanders capitalize on 4 caps being suspended.
Also the Rangers have to take advantage of making up ground on teams like the caps and even flyers during this period of missing big players

 

[Synergy27]

Miller was drafted in 98 or 99 so yeah he’s old af

Hey. ‘99 was my draft year. Take it easy!

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Of course the islanders capitalize on 4 caps being suspended.
Also the Rangers have to take advantage of making up ground on teams like the caps and even flyers during this period of missing big players

Islanders - Devils tonight. Hoping for a beatdown either way and no OT. But we'll probably get OT.

 

[bl02]

Islanders - Devils tonight. Hoping for a beatdown either way and no OT. But we'll probably get OT.

Yeah we have to hope for no OT games but of course the opposite will happen lol.
Sabre’s and islanders benefit from the caps player loss over the next 4 games

 

[mike14]

PLD has basically been benched by Torts. 3rd lowest ice-time in the 1st period, and Riley Nash is being double-shifted in his spot for the 2nd

 

[LokiDog]

PLD has basically been benched by Torts. 3rd lowest ice-time in the 1st period, and Riley Nash is being double-shifted in his spot for the 2nd

Yes, he hasn’t played since like 9 minutes into the game. 8 minutes remaining the second. Sitting on the bench.

 

[Kords]

Less and less leverage for Jarmo, ya love to see it.

 

[aufheben]

Lirl the Bruins literally can’t score.

A couple weeks ago I saw a Bruins fan say the team was better without Krug.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Lirl the Bruins literally can’t score.

A couple weeks ago I saw a Bruins fan say the team was better without Krug.

Grizzlick is just as good bro

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

McDonagh is such a boss.

That trade is the antithesis of the Zibanejad trade.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yes, he hasn’t played since like 9 minutes into the game. 8 minutes remaining the second. Sitting on the bench.

3:55 through 2.

Torts trying to tank his trade value.

 

[LokiDog]

Imagine PLD took his gear off at intermission and told Torts to shove it in front of the entire locker room? That would accelerate things.

 

[17futurecap]

PLD looks like he’s actively quit out there, guess that’s one way to get a trade done quick.

 

[NYR94]

Dubois didn't play in the 2nd period at all? Has he played in the 3rd?

 

[LokiDog]

Dubois didn't play in the 2nd period at all? Has he played in the 3rd?

Not so far.