Around the NHL: Part XXV

[Kovalev27]

Quinn's been coaching a long time. Not all coaching experience relates to the NHL. Until Gallant landed his Vegas gig he'd had one good season in Florida.

that’s like saying an nhl rookie has been playing a long time yah since they were like 3 or 4 years old. That isn’t nhl experience

There’s nhl experience and then there’s everything else. And you know that.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You want Murphy even after we were completely overmatched against Carolina? It was a small sample size for sure, but still.

Brown is rumored to be the next HC of the USNTDP

And if Quinn is fired, it doesn't mean Reirden would be the next head coach or if he is, it'll only be in the interim

I don't want them to promote Murphy, but 2 of our pairings weren't really that bad in this series. It was DeAngelo on one leg and Staal existing that sunk us defensively, that pair got murdered.

 

[eco's bones]

You want Murphy even after we were completely overmatched against Carolina? It was a small sample size for sure, but still.

Brown is rumored to be the next HC of the USNTDP

And if Quinn is fired, it doesn't mean Reirden would be the next head coach or if he is, it'll only be in the interim

Carolina rolls 4 lines and 3 defense pairings. The Rangers had a young inexperienced group with crap depth. Is that the coach's fault? I guess it is to you.

As for Reirden---no it doesn't mean he'll be the new coach but it doesn't hurt your chances to be around. Personally if we're going outside the organization I like the Gonchar idea better. Reirden's 0-2 in playoff series with a much deeper and experienced team than the Rangers--one that had just come off a championship the year he got his job.

 

[eco's bones]

that’s like saying an nhl rookie has been playing a long time yah since they were like 3 or 4 years old. That isn’t nhl experience

There’s nhl experience and then there’s everything else. And you know that.

Everyone starts somewhere do they not? Are the Rangers a developing team or an established one? Laviolette's teams have always been veteran led teams. He shares that similarity with AV. Gallant was gifted a ton of vets like Fleury, Marchessault, Neal etc. etc. I swear there are people here that would be firing our coach every year.

 

[Tawnos]

Quinn's been coaching a long time. Not all coaching experience relates to the NHL. Until Gallant landed his Vegas gig he'd had one good season in Florida.

I have a contrary nature, so I’m aware that might be driving some of this thought, but I’m not as convinced Gallant is this amazing coach everyone thinks he is. He did a great job with the psychology of an expansion team, but couldn’t sustain into another season without that leverage. He did a good job with the psychology of a very young team in Florida, but he couldn’t sustain that either. And something isn’t quite right that he can barely seem to hang onto a job for two seasons.

Coaches can grow, so don’t get me wrong. This isn’t necessarily a prediction that his next job won’t turn out differently. I just have some skepticism that other people don’t seem to.

 

[Kovalev27]

Everyone starts somewhere do they not? Are the Rangers a developing team or an established one? Laviolette's teams have always been veteran led teams. He shares that similarity with AV. Gallant was gifted a ton of vets like Fleury, Marchessault, Neal etc. etc. I swear there are people here that would be firing our coach every year.

i don’t know what you’re arguing here. As I said we will have the most inexperienced coach in the metro. The division will have multiple elite coaches. Quinn is neither experienced nor elite. So whether he has to start somewhere or not has nothing to do with the facts.

 

[Thirty One]

I have a contrary nature, so I’m aware that might be driving some of this thought, but I’m not as convinced Gallant is this amazing coach everyone thinks he is. He did a great job with the psychology of an expansion team, but couldn’t sustain into another season without that leverage. He did a good job with the psychology of a very young team in Florida, but he couldn’t sustain that either. And something isn’t quite right that he can barely seem to hang onto a job for two seasons.

Coaches can grow, so don’t get me wrong. This isn’t necessarily a prediction that his next job won’t turn out differently. I just have some skepticism that other people don’t seem to.

The impression I get is Gallant is really good to the media and they pump him up accordingly.

 

[eco's bones]

Where's wenevergetagoodcoach when we need him?

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I mentioned it here earlier in the Islanders-Caps series, Reirden would be done. They have a 2-3 year window left at max to do something so no messing around with better options available. That's how Leonosis works.

I fully expect Gallant or Laviolette to go there.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Quinn's been coaching a long time. Not all coaching experience relates to the NHL. Until Gallant landed his Vegas gig he'd had one good season in Florida.

One more good season than Quinn's had.

I'm not anti Quinn by any means and I don't want to push him out the door but you have two years, you get the pulse of the league, you have a young team and now will have 3-5 elite young pieces. You have to show improvement.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I mentioned it here earlier in the Islanders-Caps series, Reirden would be done. They have a 2-3 year window left at max to do something so no messing around with better options available. That's how Leonosis works.

I fully expect Gallant or Laviolette to go there.

I think their window is even less than that.

 

[Irishguy42]

Caps will be better next year no matter who they hire because Holtby won't be on the roster.

 

[eco's bones]

I don't always agree with JD by the way but he's said over and over again that we have to be patient with our rebuild and not try to hurry things or prematurely leave the path we've been on. I agree with that. We're a very young team and some of our best players next year will be teenagers or 21/22 year olds. These kids should get better and we should hang with them and the process we're on. From what I've seen of Laviolette--the way he barks at referees etc. he doesn't strike me as someone who is going to be really patient with mistakes made by young players. But anyway I'm pretty sure the Rangers are planning on hanging with Quinn for at least one more season and maybe more. Everytime someone gets shitcanned or becomes available doesn't mean we have to bite.

 

[aufheben]

Isn't #91 the betting choice for Lafreniere when time comes for him to pick a #?

I just think it’s funny because #91 is usually reserved for superstars. Fedorov, Stamkos, Tavares, Richards, Seguin, Hall, etc.

 

[Cmox]

And a new meme is born.

 

[bobbop]

One more good season than Quinn's had.

I'm not anti Quinn by any means and I don't want to push him out the door but you have two years, you get the pulse of the league, you have a young team and now will have 3-5 elite young pieces. You have to show improvement.

Give Quinn some credit. The Rangers were improved this year. And the bottom half of the roster is still pretty threadbare.

Let’s see what Gorton can do this offseason and what Quinn can do with what he is given.

 

[Kovalev27]

Give Quinn some credit. The Rangers were improved this year. And the bottom half of the roster is still pretty threadbare.

Let’s see what Gorton can do this offseason and what Quinn can do with what he is given.

sure but let’s be honest with ourselves the Rangers are one of the worst structural teams in the league. We might be the loosest team in the league. Quinn does zero in game adjustment other than throwing lines in a blender which he did from the minute Fast got hurt. Zero adjustment.

teams are winning playoff games on systems half the time. It’d be hard to point out our team playing any kind of system most nights

 

[Irishguy42]

I'll give Quinn credit when the Rangers stop giving up the neutral zone and blue line every time by design. It's not a successful system.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m willing to give Quinn another year

I don’t think he’ll make it to the end of year 4, or the start of year 5 on that deal though

At that point the team will be developed and it’ll be time to bring someone in that has some sort of hockey system, as opposed to what they do now lol

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

If Kakko makes a big jump and Lafreniere is in the Calder conversation, i'll let Quinn off the hotseat.

 

[Leetch3]

If Kakko makes a big jump and Lafreniere is in the Calder conversation, i'll let Quinn off the hotseat.

so you will judge him on the results of 2 teenagers, not on his actual coaching

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

so you will judge him on the results of 2 teenagers, not on his actual coaching

Well his coaching sucks, we already know that. If he can be good for development of our 2 most important young pieces then that will be his saving grace.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Well his coaching sucks, we already know that. If he can be good for development of our 2 most important young pieces then that will be his saving grace.

How much of Lafreniere's development will be on the coaching though?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

How much of Lafreniere's development will be on the coaching though?

At least some of it.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

What a dive by Blake Coleman. Never liked that loser when he was a Devil.