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Around the NHL: Part XVI - Born on the First of July

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Amazing Kreiderman said:
He still carved out a good career for where he was drafted. It's a common misconception that every 1st rounder has the potential to be a top-pair/top line player
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Unfortunately, in most online circles, the expectations often get so far out of hand that it skews the prism by which we judge players.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Figure Rantanen gets 9 to 10 million. Compher and Kamanev about 2.5 to 3.5 between them. Gives the Avs about $6 million in space to work with. Chris Kreider, come on down!
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Kreider I think would be dynamite on a line with MacKinnon but I don't know if Colorado ponies up a Jost, Newhook or Kaut for him. The other objectives might be their 1st or Timmins (like we need more defensemen). Not sure there's a deal there.
 
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Kreider I think would be dynamite on a line with MacKinnon but I don't know if Colorado ponies up a Jost, Newhook or Kaut for him. The other objectives might be their 1st or Timmins (like we need more defensemen). Not sure there's a deal there.
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I'd do Jost and a small add. The Rangers are in a position to gamble here. Jost is a 2nd line center if he pans out and breaks out this year or next.

Sakic is just as stubborn as Chevy. Doubt he gives him up, though. Think we're looking at more like a 1st and B prospect at this point.
 
If we're talking about dealing Kreider, I'd be calling up Florida. They missed out on Panarin and there's lots of pressure to make the playoffs sooner rather than later. They're one of the few teams that could afford to extend him, as well.

Florida has lots of alluring forward prospects. I'd ask for Heponiemi.
 
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Florida isn't the greatest trade partner for Kreider because they still have a few RFAs to sign and their cap is almost maxed out. Plus I can't see that team giving up a first unless it's lottery protected. To make it work Rangers probably have to retain a little and take back someone like a Colton Sceviour. They're a lot like the Rangers current construction: on paper they're "better" but let's see how they do on ice. They've been a hipster analytics team for the last five seasons.

Colorado is much better trade partner but again, they'll probably have about $3 million to work and they have a roster full of forwards. Jost is an option. He reminds me so much of Roslovic on Winnipeg: first rounders who haven't put it all together yet. Rangers need to take back another player to make it work cap wise for both teams. I suggested Colin Wilson but apparently the Avs value him as a depth piece and he just resigned. The only other roster option I could think of is Matt Nieto who I think would be great for the bottom six. Him and Quinn actually missed each other at BU by a few years. It all comes down to Sakic though. Is he even interested? Jost will get dealt eventually because the Avs essentially have opened their window unless they have a year like the 92-93 Rangers.

My guess is Sakic is aware of the Rangers cap situation and let's say a Jost and Nieto for Kreider is probably the "best" offer on the table if even that much. Kaut+1st is an ok package, but it actually hurts Colorado cap and roster wise.
 
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Skjeikspeare said:
Florida isn't the greatest trade partner for Kreider because they still have a few RFAs to sign and their cap is almost maxed out. Plus I can't see that team giving up a first unless it's lottery protected. To make it work Rangers probably have to retain a little and take back someone like a Colton Sceviour. They're a lot like the Rangers current construction: on paper they're "better" but let's see how they do on ice. They've been a hipster analytics team for the last five seasons.

Colorado is much better trade partner but again, they'll probably have about $3 million to work and they have a roster full of forwards. Jost is an option. He reminds me so much of Roslovic on Winnipeg: first rounders who haven't put it all together yet. Rangers need to take back another player to make it work cap wise for both teams. I suggested Colin Wilson but apparently the Avs value him as a depth piece and he just resigned. The only other roster option I could think of is Matt Nieto who I think would be great for the bottom six. Him and Quinn actually missed each other at BU by a few years. It all comes down to Sakic though. Is he even interested? Jost will get dealt eventually because the Avs essentially have opened their window unless they have a year like the 92-93 Rangers.

My guess is Sakic is aware of the Rangers cap situation and let's say a Jost and Nieto for Kreider is probably the "best" offer on the table if even that much. Kaut+1st is an ok package, but it actually hurts Colorado cap and roster wise.
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I'm game for Jost and Nieto as the return for Kreider. The Rangers need bottom six depth badly, and Nieto will help with that.

Jost has 2nd line upside. He's not there yet, but maybe he breaks out with more ice time.
 
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