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Around the NHL: Part XVI - Born on the First of July

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bmoak said:
Grungy would be the perfect mascot for a Seattle team.
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I'm not going to get angry or heated on this comment but I feel as an ambassador and someone who grew up with that genre of music/that era along with the first five years of Neil Smith running the Rangers that led to the Cup I need to make it abundantly clear to everyone on this board that the term grunge in actuality has NOTHING to do with Seattle. It was a media term some record CEOs made up to start selling records and group a bunch of bands that were promoted to counter hair metal/pop.

The "grunge" fashion was popularized by a designer named Marc Jacobs. The reason people dressed like that in Seattle and still do is because of the weather and how blue collar a city it was before the recent tech boom. Layers man, layers. There was a time from like the 80s-early 2000s when kids wore jeans/tshirts/sneakers and didn't dress like their parents.

Seattle is where Jimi Hendrix was from before he went into the millitary/had to leave this country and move to England to promote his unique style of music that nobody here would initially touch, the band Heart, Sir Mix-A-Lot, Presidents Of The USA (who recorded a rap rock album with Sir Mix-A-Lot that was never officially released)

Coffee and tech have more to do with Seattle than "grunge." Eco friendly environment. The first American Team to win the Stanley Cup was from Seattle (the "Mets" if you will).

As for the "grunge bands" Nirvana was a punk band that loved The Pixies and The Clash, Pearl Jam was a hard rock band fronted by a surfer from San Diego who played in a Red Hot Chili Peppers cover band, Soundgarden was a Black Sabbath meets King Crimson, and Alice In Chains were metal with a little folk (Jerry Cantrell's background). If no one knew where these bands were from and the media didn't create this whole almost tribe like thing, the two closest bands stylistically from that era are probably Stone Temple Pilots who were from San Diego, and Pearl Jam.

Having anything to do with grunge is the same as "How Ya Doin'" or "Pizza" as a NY mascot. If the Garden wanted a realistic mascot, it would be some uptight guy in a suit always looking at his phone.
 
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Skjeikspeare said:
I'm not going to get angry or heated on this comment but I feel as an ambassador and someone who grew up with that genre of music/that era along with the first five years of Neil Smith running the Rangers that led to the Cup I need to make it abundantly clear to everyone on this board that the term grunge in actuality has NOTHING to do with Seattle. It was a media term some record CEOs made up to start selling records and group a bunch of bands that were promoted to counter hair metal/pop.

The "grunge" fashion was popularized by a designer named Marc Jacobs. The reason people dressed like that in Seattle and still do is because of the weather and how blue collar a city it was before the recent tech boom. Layers man, layers. There was a time from like the 80s-early 2000s when kids wore jeans/tshirts/sneakers and didn't dress like their parents.

Seattle is where Jimi Hendrix was from before he went into the millitary/had to leave this country and move to England to promote his unique style of music that nobody here would initially touch, the band Heart, Sir Mix-A-Lot, Presidents Of The USA (who recorded a rap rock album with Sir Mix-A-Lot that was never officially released)

Coffee and tech have more to do with Seattle than "grunge." Eco friendly environment. The first American Team to win the Stanley Cup was from Seattle (the "Mets" if you will).

As for the "grunge bands" Nirvana was a punk band that loved The Pixies and The Clash, Pearl Jam was a hard rock band fronted by a surfer from San Diego who played in a Red Hot Chili Peppers cover band, Soundgarden was a Black Sabbath meets King Crimson, and Alice In Chains were metal with a little folk (Jerry Cantrell's background). If no one knew where these bands were from and the media didn't create this whole almost tribe like thing, the two closest bands stylistically from that era are probably Stone Temple Pilots who were from San Diego, and Pearl Jam.

Having anything to do with grunge is the same as "How Ya Doin'" or "Pizza" as a NY mascot. If the Garden wanted a realistic mascot, it would be some uptight guy in a suit always looking at his phone.
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I'm 100% on board with the rangers getting a mascot that is a slice of piece named 'Consume The Pizza'
 
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Black Aces said:
Reading the main board. Apparently the Leafs rebuild didn't start until they drafted Matthews and hence they were rebuilt in one year. Selecting Nylander 8th and Marner 4th dont count and neither does missing the playoffs 10 of the previous 11 years.
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Classic leafs
 
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Leetch3 said:
I'm 100% on board with the rangers getting a mascot that is a slice of piece named 'Consume The Pizza'
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Haha. My first reaction too. As a native NYer (I've left, admittedly), I'd be totally cool with a pizza reference in thr team name. Pizza's great *and* a unifier. We NYers (and, may I say, Americans in general) all agree on that.
 
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Skjeikspeare said:
I'm not going to get angry or heated on this comment but I feel as an ambassador and someone who grew up with that genre of music/that era along with the first five years of Neil Smith running the Rangers that led to the Cup I need to make it abundantly clear to everyone on this board that the term grunge in actuality has NOTHING to do with Seattle. It was a media term some record CEOs made up to start selling records and group a bunch of bands that were promoted to counter hair metal/pop.

The "grunge" fashion was popularized by a designer named Marc Jacobs. The reason people dressed like that in Seattle and still do is because of the weather and how blue collar a city it was before the recent tech boom. Layers man, layers. There was a time from like the 80s-early 2000s when kids wore jeans/tshirts/sneakers and didn't dress like their parents.

Seattle is where Jimi Hendrix was from before he went into the millitary/had to leave this country and move to England to promote his unique style of music that nobody here would initially touch, the band Heart, Sir Mix-A-Lot, Presidents Of The USA (who recorded a rap rock album with Sir Mix-A-Lot that was never officially released)

Coffee and tech have more to do with Seattle than "grunge." Eco friendly environment. The first American Team to win the Stanley Cup was from Seattle (the "Mets" if you will).

As for the "grunge bands" Nirvana was a punk band that loved The Pixies and The Clash, Pearl Jam was a hard rock band fronted by a surfer from San Diego who played in a Red Hot Chili Peppers cover band, Soundgarden was a Black Sabbath meets King Crimson, and Alice In Chains were metal with a little folk (Jerry Cantrell's background). If no one knew where these bands were from and the media didn't create this whole almost tribe like thing, the two closest bands stylistically from that era are probably Stone Temple Pilots who were from San Diego, and Pearl Jam.

Having anything to do with grunge is the same as "How Ya Doin'" or "Pizza" as a NY mascot. If the Garden wanted a realistic mascot, it would be some uptight guy in a suit always looking at his phone.
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So I'm gathering that Seattleites consider the term Grunge offensive. I had no idea. I love all that music.
But maybe I'm just insensitive. "Rags" doesn't bother me either.
 
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Skjeikspeare said:
I'm not going to get angry or heated on this comment but I feel as an ambassador and someone who grew up with that genre of music/that era along with the first five years of Neil Smith running the Rangers that led to the Cup I need to make it abundantly clear to everyone on this board that the term grunge in actuality has NOTHING to do with Seattle. It was a media term some record CEOs made up to start selling records and group a bunch of bands that were promoted to counter hair metal/pop.

The "grunge" fashion was popularized by a designer named Marc Jacobs. The reason people dressed like that in Seattle and still do is because of the weather and how blue collar a city it was before the recent tech boom. Layers man, layers. There was a time from like the 80s-early 2000s when kids wore jeans/tshirts/sneakers and didn't dress like their parents.

Seattle is where Jimi Hendrix was from before he went into the millitary/had to leave this country and move to England to promote his unique style of music that nobody here would initially touch, the band Heart, Sir Mix-A-Lot, Presidents Of The USA (who recorded a rap rock album with Sir Mix-A-Lot that was never officially released)

Coffee and tech have more to do with Seattle than "grunge." Eco friendly environment. The first American Team to win the Stanley Cup was from Seattle (the "Mets" if you will).

As for the "grunge bands" Nirvana was a punk band that loved The Pixies and The Clash, Pearl Jam was a hard rock band fronted by a surfer from San Diego who played in a Red Hot Chili Peppers cover band, Soundgarden was a Black Sabbath meets King Crimson, and Alice In Chains were metal with a little folk (Jerry Cantrell's background). If no one knew where these bands were from and the media didn't create this whole almost tribe like thing, the two closest bands stylistically from that era are probably Stone Temple Pilots who were from San Diego, and Pearl Jam.

Having anything to do with grunge is the same as "How Ya Doin'" or "Pizza" as a NY mascot. If the Garden wanted a realistic mascot, it would be some uptight guy in a suit always looking at his phone.
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Thing that comes to mind after reading this is Seattle Grinders. Not hockey grinders but coffee grinders. But doesn't work. So I thought Seattle Aeros. Can vaguely allude to the coffee aeropress and aerospace at the same time.
 
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egelband said:
So I'm gathering that Seattleites consider the term Grunge offensive. I had no idea. I love all that music.
But maybe I'm just insensitive. "Rags" doesn't bother me either.
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Pretty much. It's not derogatory but they'll roll their eyes at it in like an "oh geez" kind of way.
 
Skjeikspeare said:
Pretty much. It's not derogatory but they'll roll their eyes at it in like an "oh geez" kind of way.
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Why tho? Because it was coined by record execs? Honestly, whoever coined that term is spot on. Then again, I’ve never been into any of those bands aside from AIC, and think they’re, overall, kind of samey sounding for the most part tbh. So coining a term for all of them makes a lot of sense to me.

Also Eddie Vedder was in a RHCP cover band? lmao. That’s where he should have stayed. :propeller
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
They avoid arbitration. With his production, it's not out of the question he would have gotten a similar AAV through arbitration
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I hear ya, and as I say, I'm a supporter. Played in proper situations, I think he can be a 35-40 point 2nd pairing RHS defenseman. And that's unquestionably an asset. But given the second half of last year, this feels like a favor to the player.
 
LOL...guy says he watches games all day long and then throws out stats that make pionk sound good ONLY if you've never seen him play

 
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We all watched Neal Pionk.

Good player but not great, glad we'll get Tony for less because of how Quinn straight up overused NP and eased Tony in.
 
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Rongomania said:
We all watched Neal Pionk.

Good player but not great, glad we'll get Tony for less because of how Quinn straight up overused NP and eased Tony in.
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Good player? Ehhh.

I'd back it off to more of an ok player...I didn't think he was worst defenseman in thenhl bad...but I didn't feel like he was ready for the mins he got.
 
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