Every multi point game or a great game by wolf is going to get this thread bumped
And his secondary on caufields goal was sick. Regular hutson stuff
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And his secondary on caufields goal was sick. Regular hutson stuff
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Wolf getting multi point games would convince me to advocate him for the Calder
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Hutson is tied 4th in scoring among dmen. The 3 above him will be the 3 norris finalists.
If it finishes like that, it would be insane for such a player to not win the calder.
If it finishes like that, it would be insane for such a player to not win the calder.
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Celebrini has no points in the last two, but he continues to threaten and generate chances. However, counting stats matter, so if he cools off and Hutson stays hot, I'd expect the Vegas lines to tighten and maybe see Hutson take the lead. Exciting year for rookies!
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My laugh for the night.
That's gonna require a LOT of "tightening"...
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Don't say I never do anything for you
This secondary assist not quite so vanilla though. Maybe vanilla with chocolate sauce.
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I've been pumping his tires this entire thread lol. You really can't read, huh?
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Hutson with a 76 point pace in his last 40 games, which is right around when he got promoted to PP1. He leads all dmen in PP scoring in that span.
Still crazy to me that he didn't start the season there, that never made sense. No offense to Matheson.
Kid is such an elite puck mover, and you can see how much he's learned this year. Didn't take him long to figure out what he can get away with and what he can't.
There's no way he doesn't win the Calder if he holds onto the rookie scoring lead.
Still crazy to me that he didn't start the season there, that never made sense. No offense to Matheson.
Kid is such an elite puck mover, and you can see how much he's learned this year. Didn't take him long to figure out what he can get away with and what he can't.
There's no way he doesn't win the Calder if he holds onto the rookie scoring lead.
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It can be bumped whenever, but I would similarly question calling Celebrini an animal for a couple of secondary PP assists.
To be fair, the poster I originally quoted wasn't referencing those assists, but rather his play more generally, which I misinterpreted.
Because (1) Hutson is a lot better than Nemec and (2) Casey is too busy leading all rookie D in goal scoring despite playing 51 less games
He's certainly the favorite. If you use his avg pace since earning PP1 duties, he's projected to finish around 67 points.Lane Hutson just running away with the Calder!
And realistically, he only needs to get to 63-65 points to be essentially uncatchable in the Calder race, if you assume a forward would likely have to outscore him by at least 3-5 points for them to have a chance. Which means one of Michkov or Celebrini would need ~25 points in their last ~20 games. I can't see that happening.
Wolf is having a great year but he's 17th in wins, likely won't be enough to get votes over a game breaking scoring dman playing in a major Canadian market.
Because (1) Hutson is a lot better than Nemec and (2) Casey / that's where you should have stopped.is too busy leading all rookie D in goal scoring despite playing 51 less games
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Just can't believe MTL got their hand on Lane Hutson, it's the biggest steal in the last few years.
He's electric.
He's electric.
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It should be Wolf even though he is getting the least talk...
legitimately been a top 5-6 goalie in the NHL this season. If Calgary make the play-offs he will have played the biggest part. He might not have tonnes of wins... but without him they would not be in the picture.
Hellebuyck, Vasilevskiy and Thompson are the only 3 goalies who are having clearly better years as an individual.
Now, Celebrini, Michkov and Hutson have all been great. But none have even been top ~20 in the league in their position, let alone top 5.
legitimately been a top 5-6 goalie in the NHL this season. If Calgary make the play-offs he will have played the biggest part. He might not have tonnes of wins... but without him they would not be in the picture.
Hellebuyck, Vasilevskiy and Thompson are the only 3 goalies who are having clearly better years as an individual.
Now, Celebrini, Michkov and Hutson have all been great. But none have even been top ~20 in the league in their position, let alone top 5.
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Hutson is 4th in the league in points by a defenseman and is just as important to Montreal being in the playoff picture as Wolf is to Calgary. Its also a lot different to be a top 20 D or forward than goalie. There are 32 starting goalies in the league, 192 starting D, and 384 starting forwards.
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Stop just looking at your favorite...Hutson tied for 4th for D in the league.
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I mean, tied 4th... but 8th in P/GP...
and ofc more to being a good Dman than points... he is damn good but -15 with under 50% Corsi and xGF.
I think Hutson should be 2nd. But Wolf has been the best of the 4 relative to the league and his position. Only 3 goalies have been clearly better than him...
and yes, but not as big a difference as you are making out. Being a top 5 goalie in the league is 85th centile (if totally ignore back-ups exist). Top 20 Dman is 90th centile...
I am a Flyers fan... Michkov is my "favourite"... just I am trying to be objective.
Wolf
Hutson
Celebrini
would be 1-2-3 for me right now funnily enough.
Wolf on merit should be in the running for ~4th spot in the Vezina... yet a legit chance will come 4th in Calder? Just a bit wild in my eyes.
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Even a blind person can see that if it keeps up, Hutson as a D, will win it. Breaking all kinds of records as well.
Following up a bad take with petty insults is a common theme in your posting...
Sensitive much lol
Hutson's game is impressive, no doubt, just imagine how much more you'd appreciate it if you could see past primary assists
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It's crazy how magically out of nowhere this season , points scored by dmen aren't more impressive than points scored by forwards. Also somehow age has inserted itself in the narrative conversation when everybody knows Panarin won the Calder
I wonder why , what could possibly change this narrative.
It's truly a mystery
I wonder why , what could possibly change this narrative.
It's truly a mystery
Guy Larose
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I'll say it, he's a Hab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It's crazy how magically out of nowhere this season , points scored by dmen aren't more impressive than points scored by forwards. Also somehow age has inserted itself in the narrative conversation when everybody knows Panarin won the Calder
I wonder why , what could possibly change this narrative.
It's truly a mystery
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running away but far from over. One of the best calder race in a long time
Age is always part of the narrative, at least with some of the voters.It's crazy how magically out of nowhere this season , points scored by dmen aren't more impressive than points scored by forwards. Also somehow age has inserted itself in the narrative conversation when everybody knows Panarin won the Calder
I wonder why , what could possibly change this narrative.
It's truly a mystery
Panarin won the rookie scoring title by almost 30 points, that was more than enough to over come the age difference.
What really makes things interesting is trying to figure out how the voters are going to make their decision. If Hutson and Celebrini finish only a few points apart, there will be voters who will look at Celebrini's better ppg and give him the nod. Likewise, there will be voters who would give Hutson the nod since he is a D.
I think anyone who claims that it is currently a runaway for either Celebrini or Hutson is kidding themselves.
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