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Around the NHL: Part XV - End the Damn Season Already

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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Every team messes up with high picks.

Pittsburgh: Pouliot
Washington: Pokulok
Tampa: Koekkoek, Connolly
Atlanta: Burmistrov
Dallas: Jack Campbell
Columbus: Filatov, Brule
Chicago: Beach, Skille, Barker
Boston: Hamill
Florida: Ellerby, Olesz
Phoenix: Mueller
Vancouver: Bourdon

Maybe it's time to just let it go and move on. It's been 9 years.
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Doesn't belong there because well...


Virtanen/Juolevi

haohmaru said:
And winning without a homegrown top 3 draft pick. Whaddya know?

Yeah, I know they have one guy they picked @ #4.
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Clearly a team led by all those big free agent signings they made.
 
ElLeetch said:
I know, but its hard when you just watch a guy who you knew 9 years ago your team should have drafted, hoist the cup after scoring 11 playoff goals. Especially in the context of our lack of scoring in the 2014 finals. It stings.

2 or 3 more goals in the finals, and the rangers win the cup in 5 games. All we needed was a difference maker. Its hard not to think about who that player could have been.

Picking McIlrath over Tarasenko cost us the 2014 cup. I'm convinced of it.
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Tarasenko in 2013-14 isn't even close to the player Tarasenko is today. If he was on the Rangers, he'd be a 3rd line winger at best and it would not have mattered in the cup run
 
nyr2k2 said:
Congratulations to St. Louis. Always happy when an inoffensive team wins it. And love to see Boston choke.
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Tarasenko in 2013-14 isn't even close to the player Tarasenko is today. If he was on the Rangers, he'd be a 3rd line winger at best and it would not have mattered in the cup run
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I had edited my previous post: yes, he was still young then, but in the 6 games the Blues played in the 2014 playoffs, he still scored 4 goals. he was a playoff performer from the start.
 
ElLeetch said:
I had edited my previous post: yes, he was still young then, but in the 6 games the Blues played in the 2014 playoffs, he still scored 4 goals. he was a playoff performer from the start.
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Awfully small sample size to use as justification to say he was a play off performer from the start. I just don't think 2013-14 Tarasenko would have made a difference for us
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Every team messes up with high picks.

Pittsburgh: Pouliot
Washington: Pokulok
Tampa: Koekkoek, Connolly
Atlanta: Burmistrov
Dallas: Jack Campbell
Columbus: Filatov, Brule
Chicago: Beach, Skille, Barker
Boston: Hamill
Florida: Ellerby, Olesz
Phoenix: Mueller
Vancouver: Bourdon

Maybe it's time to just let it go and move on. It's been 9 years.
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Every one of those prospects was a way better player than Dylan mcilrath and it's not even close.

It was a colossal dud, Let us have that at least ...
 
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Maximus said:
Thank the good lord that the Blue won the Cup and ended their 52 year Cup drought. Had the Bruins won, this would have been incredibly the 13th championship and parade that Bostonian's would have celebrated in the past 18 years and that is not a misprint folks.

Yeah I might sound a bit salty but it's mostly because honestly I'm envious as the teams I have rooted for since I was a wee little boy 50+ years ago the Knicks, Rangers, Jets and Mets combined have won just 6 total titles so anytime a Boston team gets beat and doesn't have another damn ****ing parade it's a damn good day!

It's been almost 25 years to the day that Bettman handed the Cup to Messier as the dragon was slayed...seems like it was just yesterday. I'm looking forward to June of 2024 when Bettman hands the Cup to Captain Kakko to skate around MSG as we finally end our 30 year Cup drought...lol...:naughty::nod:
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It's not even that insane championship number that gets me. If you tack on finals appearances, you have the following in that time frame:

3 lost Superbowls by the Patriots
1 lost finals by the Celtics
2 lost cups finals by the Bruins

In 18 years, new England has had at least 1 major sports team make it to the finals 18 times..... That is an insane number. I didn't even count all the conference championship games that the pats lost, there's like another 3-5 in there.
 
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Speaking of Luc Bourdon, the 11th anniversary of his passing was just a few weeks ago. The draft will be in Vancouver this year, I wonder if they're going to do a tribute, would be nice.

Kent Hughes, Ranger prospect Riley Hughes father, was his agent.
 
Bluenote13 said:
Speaking of Luc Bourdon, the 11th anniversary of his passing was just a few weeks ago. The draft will be in Vancouver this year, I wonder if they're going to do a tribute would be nice.

Kent Hughes, Ranger prospect Riley Hughes father, was his agent.
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Taking on the rangerboy role eh? Lol
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Tarasenko in 2013-14 isn't even close to the player Tarasenko is today. If he was on the Rangers, he'd be a 3rd line winger at best and it would not have mattered in the cup run
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Yeah, but in 14-15, he breaks out, and in Game 7 against the Lightning in the Conference Finals, he picks up an early assist and then scores the game winner in overtime. We go back to the Cup, where we beat Chicago in 6.

Waah waaaaaaaah

j/k
 
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Paulie Walnutz said:
Or was it because he was expendable since they already had Pietrangelo and Parayko ahead of him on the depth chart?
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Honestly, probably a little bit of both....

The reality is that the way the NHL is configured today, top 3 picks aren't what makes a team... They can be what takes a team over the top, but over the last 3-5 years, we're seeing an insane amount of teams get to the finals without as much star power as people assume they have.... And that's because of how crucial it is to have solid depth in today's NHL... Top 3 picks can accelerate that process, but you still need solid players from top to bottom
 
John Moore played a lot for Boston this series and looked good. I can't recall but did he look as good when he played for the Rangers?

Did they give him enough playing time to see what he was capable of? Or did AV bury him.
 
VERY IMPORTANT Key thoughts/questions today:

1. Were the B's a Rick Nash from winning the cup?
2. Does anyone have a feed from Jack Edwards for last night?
3. Will the Marchand face supplant crying Jordan?
4. Very happy the Sabres traded O'reilly. Helluva one-two punch that could have been with Eichel
5. Maroon should get paid
 
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Metranger said:
John Moore played a lot for Boston this series and looked good. I can't recall but did he look as good when he played for the Rangers?

Did they give him enough playing time to see what he was capable of? Or did AV bury him.
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John Moore was a perfect 3rd pairing D when we had him, which was before his prime. I always thought he'd top out as a 2nd pairing D once he hit his prime, which he did.

I always think of the Moore/Yandle deal as a great example of how just throwing as much talent out there as you can isn't the best way to build a roster. It's better to have players filling roles they're suited for than have guys who are too good for the role they're asked to fill.
 
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