Around the NHL - Part XLIII
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Oscar Lindberg
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Respect to Panarin and Fox for donating to Gaudreau’s brothers gofundme
Machinehead
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I'm not saying they don't deserve it but punishment happens after people are already dead. Alcoholics inherently can't control themselves so the efficacy of deterrence is limited. This needs to be prevented from happening in the first place by whatever means possible.
will1066
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The scumbag is remorseless. I'm so pissed.
LOFIN
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You are implying that all, or even the majority of people who DUI are alcoholics. Not necessarily the case. And being an alcoholic should not be a defence. There are plenty of alcoholics who just f*** up their own lives, instead of theirs and others.
Obviously, depends greatly on what our definition of an alcoholic is.
ElLeetch
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I'll be the dick here... Does someone who's brother earned $63M to date, need a GoFundMe?
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I think what money Johnny Gaudreau has made so far in his life is of little comfort or concern to Matthew Gaudreau's expecting wife & unborn baby. Both guys just lost their earning potential for their families, forever. Further, it's one way people show their love and support.
Anyone behind the wheel drunk or stoned should get life, if they are caught regardless if they hurt someone or not. Said that won't happen
Source? This is great.
KirkAlbuquerque
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Maybe it’s for Matthew and his family ( I read he had a wife and kids too but I’m not sure )
LOFIN
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Donate to Support Madeline and Baby Tripp After Tragedy, organized by Friends of Madeline
We are heartbroken to share the devastating news that the Gaudreau … Friends of Madeline needs your support for Support Madeline and Baby Tripp After Tragedy
A wife who is expecting their child
rangers1314
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Great to see so many NHL names on this list, someone dropped 10K
Between the money Johnny made and the NHL players network, I believe Matthew’s widow and child will be fine financially.
Perhaps they end up donating the money to a charity, who knows. It’s simply an avenue to show your sympathy and support.
Between the money Johnny made and the NHL players network, I believe Matthew’s widow and child will be fine financially.
Perhaps they end up donating the money to a charity, who knows. It’s simply an avenue to show your sympathy and support.
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Machinehead
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Ok that's a valid point, so I'll concede that and come at it from a different lens.
I still don't believe in deterrence.
People aren't making this decision thinking they might kill somebody. They're making this decision thinking they can drive. The punishment for a crime you don't think you're going to commit is irrelevant.
LOFIN
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I think people who are drunk do realize that their ability to drive is compromised. They just don't care, because they don't think they are going to get caught, or that nothing bad can happen. But you do need the punishment to be serious too. There is a famous Finnish documentary of drunk drivers, where they interview a guy who has been caught by the police like 15 times. Never even had a driver's licence. Just didn't give a F. A guy like that, should be locked up behind bars for public safety, instead guy just ended up paying fines because luckily for him, he didn't kill anyone or cause accidents. Was just caught DUI.
EdJovanovski
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Yea I kinda agree, I found it odd. Maybe they could start some sort of Gaudreau Foundation for victims of drunk drivers with the money or something
Matthew Gaudreau's Wife Madeline Pregnant With Their First Baby Amid His Death - E! Online
Matthew Gaudreau and his brother Johnny Gaudreau died after being struck by a car in New Jersey on Aug. 29. His wife Madeline Gaudreau is pregnant with their first baby, according to family.
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This should be the new cover. I made this. Its not perfect but the thought that counts
CTTribe73
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He got himsel
He intentionally got behind the wheel of a car, turning the car into a deadly weapon.
What more do we need?
ZERO tolerance for drunk drivers. ZERO.
He got drunk.
He intentionally got behind the wheel of a car, turning the car into a deadly weapon.
What more do we need?
ZERO tolerance for drunk drivers. ZERO.
eco's bones
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Mr. Higgins is going to prison. He admitted to several drinks and drinking while driving and also passing on the wrong side. They got him dead to rights.
.....and it's not always as simple as a Uber. That's not necessarily a thing in a lot of places and if I were a Uber driver I wouldn't want to go to bed at 10pm and get woke up to go get some drunk at a bar at 1230 am---knowing he might become belligerent or piss, shit or throw up in my back seat or I might have to drag his unconscious body out of the car when we got to his destination and then have to walk his ass up his own sidewalk or driveway to his front door where he may not even be able to put his key in the lock if he can find it at all.
This country has a cowboy culture and it shows in things like psychologically damaged vets returning from pointless wars.....the need to have the biggest vehicle to drive.....the assault weapons in our society sometimes even owned by pre-teenagers.....the crazy religious cults and a bunch of other ways such as who we choose for political leaders. We are kind of like a very bad and myth driven cartoon. There are lots of things to fix besides drunk driving and FWIW the United States ranks 221 out of 226 countries in the world for incarceration rate and first in number of incarcerated. More than China which has 2 billion people? We're just getting over all the non-violent drug law incarcerations that put hundreds of thousand of people behind bars some for very long stretches of time.
.....and it's not always as simple as a Uber. That's not necessarily a thing in a lot of places and if I were a Uber driver I wouldn't want to go to bed at 10pm and get woke up to go get some drunk at a bar at 1230 am---knowing he might become belligerent or piss, shit or throw up in my back seat or I might have to drag his unconscious body out of the car when we got to his destination and then have to walk his ass up his own sidewalk or driveway to his front door where he may not even be able to put his key in the lock if he can find it at all.
This country has a cowboy culture and it shows in things like psychologically damaged vets returning from pointless wars.....the need to have the biggest vehicle to drive.....the assault weapons in our society sometimes even owned by pre-teenagers.....the crazy religious cults and a bunch of other ways such as who we choose for political leaders. We are kind of like a very bad and myth driven cartoon. There are lots of things to fix besides drunk driving and FWIW the United States ranks 221 out of 226 countries in the world for incarceration rate and first in number of incarcerated. More than China which has 2 billion people? We're just getting over all the non-violent drug law incarcerations that put hundreds of thousand of people behind bars some for very long stretches of time.
will1066
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I read that Gaudreau was Kevin Hayes' best friend. Hayes has had a devastating couple of years.
nsvoyageurs
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I'm not trying to absolve that POS of blame for the tragedy; I refuse to call this an "accident"; he chose to drink and drive, he's responsible for his own actions (drunkeness is NOT an excuse), but if the driver was at some bar or someplace other than his own residence drinking, they could be held criminally liable for allowing that POS to get into a car and drive, and, sadly, in the case, killing two people.
I hope they nail his ass to a wall. He should be in prison for a long time.
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Jarvis extension in Car maybe now he’ll be rich enough to do something about that mug
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