Unfortunately it’s the way with big time sports nowadays. If nothing really happened to penn state after the child rapes that the school allowed, then the odds of any money making sports org/league ”doing the right thing” are almost nil.
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Bedard's snapshot goal last night was 86.5mph....
with his release and locating it.... that's borderline unstoppable
with his release and locating it.... that's borderline unstoppable
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Schneider wrist shot goal was 92+.
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Unfortunately, these POS are everywhere, no matter the profession/industry, walk of life. All companies do, more often than not, is try to cover it up.
What the Blackhawks did was despicable; they covered it up so they could go on a Stanley Cup run. That is sick and twisted.
Ducks hand Vegas first regulation loss of the season.
The quack attack is back Jack!
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Injured Hughes 'week-to-week,' leaves Devils' trip
New Jersey Devils star forward Jack Hughes, who left the Devils' 4-1 loss to the St. Louis Blues on Friday night, is "week-to-week" with an upper-body injury, the team announced on Sunday, prior to a 4-2 victory over the Blackhawks in Chicago.
Yep, just as I suspected.
Week to week.
If they were truly worried about structural/ligament damage then it was pretty bad. At the very least a separation of the shoulder. Its likely going to be at least 3 weeks. Thats my guess.
These injuries are tricky. Hard to tell the recovery timetable which is why it isnt more specific. Could heal up (simply needs rest and treatment) quicker than anticipated, or it could drag out with lingering pain and weakness. The other issue is if he steps back onto the ice too quickly and takes a blow to that shoulder again, it could reaggravate the area if things arent completely healed.
Expect him to be in the non-contact jersey for a long time and they might even keep him out a little bit longer to be safe. They'll be able to tell how the separation heals using multiple scans, have him hold a weight in his hand as well to see when the separation closes.
The Devils could retroactively put him on LTIR as well. After seeing if he progresses or not the next week, week-and-a-half. Because Its probably a 50-50 chance hell reach that 10 game / 24 day threshold.
No Fox or Hughes next Saturday.
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They have quite a future as well but this year right now looking good let by Vatrano (over ppg and 9 goals) and McTavish.
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Injured Hughes 'week-to-week,' leaves Devils' trip
New Jersey Devils star forward Jack Hughes, who left the Devils' 4-1 loss to the St. Louis Blues on Friday night, is "week-to-week" with an upper-body injury, the team announced on Sunday, prior to a 4-2 victory over the Blackhawks in Chicago.www.espn.com
Yep, just as I suspected.
Week to week.
If they were truly worried about structural/ligament damage then it was pretty bad. At the very least a separation of the shoulder. Its likely going to be at least 3 weeks. Thats my guess.
These injuries are tricky. Hard to tell the recovery timetable which is why it isnt more specific. Could heal up (simply needs rest and treatment) quicker than anticipated, or it could drag out with lingering pain and weakness. The other issue is if he steps back onto the ice too quickly and takes a blow to that shoulder again, it could reaggravate the area if things arent completely healed.
Expect him to be in the non-contact jersey for a long time and they might even keep him out a little bit longer to be safe. They'll be able to tell how the separation heals using multiple scans, have him hold a weight in his hand as well to see when the separation closes.
The Devils could retroactively put him on LTIR as well. After seeing if he progresses or not the next week, week-and-a-half. Because Its probably a 50-50 chance hell reach that 10 game / 24 day threshold.
No Fox or Hughes next Saturday.
What does Hughes and Fox and Chytil and anyone who sustains a week-to-week injury do during their time? Surely, they have medical check-ups, followed by rehab appointments. But do they just leave the team environment and become civilians mostly? I think some switch their focus to their team's charity commitments or they hole up at home to heal, maybe sometimes visiting the practice facility?
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Andersen gone for a long time, the canes signed Halak to PTO. Hate to see a player go down but that's karma for those canes fan who were enjoying what happened to Fox.
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What happened to him? He's also a player kind of plagued by injuries.
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Im sure they are around the practice facility a lot, getting treatments, sitting in on video sessions, hanging with teammates, but just focusing on getting back on the ice.
Im sure once they are cleared to skate again (all depends on the injury) they will be out there on their own with a coach or two. But yeah It would be interesting to hear what they do. Im sure they are around at the home games. Probably dont need to travel and hang out at home and be around their families more when the team is on the road
It's the Mintyukov effect. No coincidence that the one Russian prospect Jovo doesn't hype ends up being the best.
I'm kidding... kind of.
Mintyukov is the most comically entertaining and objectively great D I've seen in a while. He would drive some of the hockey "scholars" here to the worst analysis of all time with the way he plays but I love it. He will assuredly have some hideously ugly moments with just how insanely aggressive he is up ice but Anaheim needs to let experience be his teacher instead of trying to rein him in. He's at his best when he's just doing what he does out there.
Anyone who hasn't seen him play should watch him. He takes being a "rover" to a whole new level and he's got a very good grasp on defensive fundamentals that will only serve him even better as he grows.
It's crazy, Zegras has yet to get going, 2 points in 11 games, Kakko should not feel so bad, lol. McTavish and Carlsson both looking like 1C's, but the Ducks are gonna hold back Leo with that Game management plan and I think it's smart, he is having issues in the FO, but has looked great everywhere else. Drysdale is also still out. But this Minty kid is something special.
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I might be unnaturally interested in the day to day minutiae for injured players. There probably is a whole of bunch of CBA-related requirements and protocols to follow.
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We were discussing the transparency of these teams on talking about these injuries on the Devils forum a bit since we still don't know what Hughes is hurt with but did the Rangers ever come out and say what Chytil and Fox hurt or they just labeled them "upper body" or "lower body" injuries? The Fox one is probably a bit more clear since it was that trash knee on knee by Aho but I don't think I've seen anything on Chytil.
Most of us Devils fans thought it was a concussion but the news changes daily in regards to him. I still don't get why he would use his elbows if he just crashed into the boards if he hurt his shoulder really bad but it could've been adrenaline from the hit kicking in.
Injured Hughes 'week-to-week,' leaves Devils' trip
New Jersey Devils star forward Jack Hughes, who left the Devils' 4-1 loss to the St. Louis Blues on Friday night, is "week-to-week" with an upper-body injury, the team announced on Sunday, prior to a 4-2 victory over the Blackhawks in Chicago.
Yep, just as I suspected.
Week to week.
If they were truly worried about structural/ligament damage then it was pretty bad. At the very least a separation of the shoulder. Its likely going to be at least 3 weeks. Thats my guess.
These injuries are tricky. Hard to tell the recovery timetable which is why it isnt more specific. Could heal up (simply needs rest and treatment) quicker than anticipated, or it could drag out with lingering pain and weakness. The other issue is if he steps back onto the ice too quickly and takes a blow to that shoulder again, it could reaggravate the area if things arent completely healed.
Expect him to be in the non-contact jersey for a long time and they might even keep him out a little bit longer to be safe. They'll be able to tell how the separation heals using multiple scans, have him hold a weight in his hand as well to see when the separation closes.
The Devils could retroactively put him on LTIR as well. After seeing if he progresses or not the next week, week-and-a-half. Because Its probably a 50-50 chance hell reach that 10 game / 24 day threshold.
No Fox or Hughes next Saturday.
Most of us Devils fans thought it was a concussion but the news changes daily in regards to him. I still don't get why he would use his elbows if he just crashed into the boards if he hurt his shoulder really bad but it could've been adrenaline from the hit kicking in.
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My guess -- and it's only a guess -- is if it's short of definitively saying a shoulder or some other part of the body, and the "diagnosis" is "week-to-week," it's likely a concussion. Week to week because everyone reacts and recovers differently to blows to the noggin. Injuries to other areas of the body are a more exact science. They never said what was ailing Chytil, although it was a very similar situation in that some speculated it was his wrist, which is covered by "upper body." They said he would be out 7-10 days, if I recall. We suspect it's a concussion.
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Yeah I mean I said it on the Devils board and I'll say it here, the NHL and their players target injuries. It's sad to say but it is what it is with this sport. The Rangers aren't going to say Chytil is concussed because teams will go after him with that injury just like teams are gonna rough up Hughes his first few games back to throw him off his game. Hell, Hughes got knocked the following shift in the Blues game that he got hurt. It sucks that game we have next week has turned into such shit with all the injuries happening to our respective teams.
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Chytil has a concussion. Fox has a knee injury. It was reported by Staple from the Athletic. Not sure how it was leaked or how he came to receive that knowledge but the Rangers and Drury have run a very tight ship regarding any information, so I think you need to take anything you hear about the team with a grain of salt.
Regarding Hughes, Im speculating its a shoulder injury because it was the principle point of contact. Could be neck or head related, but from reading between the lines from the little I've heard and from my own injury experience on a play almost exactly identical to his - I feel its his shoulder. I also thought the trainer was focusing on that area after the hit.
Could be a concussion... but from Elliotte Friedmans tweets I see it a different way
"The word on Jack Hughes is it might take a day or two to figure out how serious things are/aren't" (Waiting for the swelling to subside to get clearer pictures)
“No official update on Jack Hughes, but word is that, thankfully, a worst-case scenario has been avoided,” - You cannot make this distinction if its a concussion imo. Its too early to tell a day or two after. This is likely news regarding an MRI scan that is looking specifically for broken bones or joint/ligament damage. Could be collarbone/shoulder/neck/vertebrae and they ruled out surgery which would have kept him out much longer and adds to the recovery process/time.
“Will miss some time, but not as bad as it could have been.” - Again, a concussion is more mysterious and very particular to the individual, so you cant make a black and white timeline as to recovery. If its something like a shoulder or joint without a break or tear that needs surgery, then its mostly a timetable distinguished by pain/weakness/recovery, like I mentioned.
You could cause more harm to the area if you play with a separated shoulder and it could becoming a nagging issue if it doesnt completely heal. Recovery time isnt as easy to predict, which is why I predicted week to week from the start.
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Baffled David Quinn still has a job. Tomorrow's game vs PHI has to be a do-or-die game for him.
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Sharks have embraced the tank, isn't Quinn doing a perfect job over there?
Too bad it's a year too late.
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“He’s a very good teacher,” Sullivan said. “He has a good understanding of the game, a good command of the X’s and O’s, and not only that, he understands how to help players improve and grow and get better. I think his [coaching] experience in college hockey would really help them in that regard, just dealing with the younger generation and trying to help players grow and develop as people.”
Mike Sullivan on David Quinn.
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Boston University guys gotta stick together!
Mike Sullivan on David Quinn.
Sullivan on Why Quinn Is Right Coach To Lead Sharks’ Rebuild, What Wilson Has Brought to Pens
Mike Sullivan has so many connections to the San Jose Sharks. Besides being the Pittsburgh Penguins head coach that defeated San Jose in their first-and-only Stanley Cup Final, Sullivan was an original Shark, from 1991 to 1994. The center was part of the two worst teams in San Jose Sharks...
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Boston University guys gotta stick together!
“He’s a very good teacher,” Sullivan said. “He has a good understanding of the game, a good command of the X’s and O’s, and not only that, he understands how to help players improve and grow and get better. I think his [coaching] experience in college hockey would really help them in that regard, just dealing with the younger generation and trying to help players grow and develop as people.”
Mike Sullivan on David Quinn.
Sullivan on Why Quinn Is Right Coach To Lead Sharks’ Rebuild, What Wilson Has Brought to Pens
Mike Sullivan has so many connections to the San Jose Sharks. Besides being the Pittsburgh Penguins head coach that defeated San Jose in their first-and-only Stanley Cup Final, Sullivan was an original Shark, from 1991 to 1994. The center was part of the two worst teams in San Jose Sharks...
Boston University guys gotta stick together!
Sully just gassing up Quinn so people can continue to meme Quinn as Mike Sullivan at home.
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