Harbour Dog
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If this is hockey-related, McPhee is an even bigger idiot than I thought, and Gallant will only be unemployed for as long as Gallant wants to be unemployed.
Around the NHL: Part XIX
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Harbour Dog
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Crazy, crazy, crazy.
Whatever, hopefully Gallant decides to take a year or two off and makes his return right when we're looking to contend.
GeorgeKaplan
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I don’t think anyone will argue that it isn’t short sighted, but this feels like one of the situations where we can see the situation without the pressure that’s built up around the team because we aren’t Vegas fans/employees. Imagine making the Cup finals, bring in Pacioretty and Stone, lose in the first round when everyone pretty much agreed they got screwed and should’ve gone much further, go into the season pretty much as close to the cap ceiling as you can get, and now we’re almost at the All Star game and they’re on the outside of the playoff picture looking in while playing in the worst division
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
I mean, I thought it was short sighted but the more I think about it, was it? I'm not a fan of McPhee but I would imagine both he and McCrimmon discussed this. The Knights may be a stellar analytical team but they weren't getting the job done. Maybe the team started tuning him out?
When you've mortgaged nearly your entire future in your third year in the NHL and are currently sitting outside a playoff spot, there is going to be accountability. Gallant was the coach. He is responsible for this team. It is hard to say that the GM/President have done a bad job when both their big acquisitions are performing extremely well.
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
Whatever, hopefully Gallant decides to take a year or two off and makes his return right when we're looking to contend.
if he sits out that long its probably cause he was named Seattle's first coach
Crease
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With Laviolette and now Gallant available, it's getting harder to digest the pond hockey defense under Quinn.
leetch99
Leetch66 Joined 2007
LOL....Turk will not take that much time off . He lives to be an NHL coach . He will have a job come September or else wait until Seattle job . Somebody will pay him . Hopefully the PEI connection with Brad Richards might be enough to get him here for next season and 8 Million bucks. I would almost bet he will be back home here at the local rink on the weekend watching our local junior club . The man lives at the arena 7 days a week when possible and you can stop and chat hockey with him all day long .Crazy, crazy, crazy.
Whatever, hopefully Gallant decides to take a year or two off and makes his return right when we're looking to contend.
eco's bones
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From the Rangers perspective--you don't just get rid of a coach if your team is making the kind of progress you want to see. And that's the question as far as Quinn is concerned and that kind of decision I don't think is just Gorton's to make--that also probably involves Davidson too. In that respect the only remarks I've gotten from Davidson regarding Quinn have been positive ones----keeping in mind that this Rangers team is still a very young team---many of the players are learning and developing their games.
I really like Gallant as a coach--the question with him would be about his being able to continue that learning and developing process---because rebuilding/retooling like we have started is a patience game. In that respect I don't think Laviolette is the right guy for us at all. He's more like an AV--he's pretty much coached just veteran teams with expectations of being among the best teams every year. The dislike for Quinn IMO at least stems in part around the impatience of the fanbase---because there is this win now mindset that Rangers fans have carried around since Lundqvist was a rookie and whether or not or how far we are with the rebuild that win now mindset is still there.
I really like Gallant as a coach--the question with him would be about his being able to continue that learning and developing process---because rebuilding/retooling like we have started is a patience game. In that respect I don't think Laviolette is the right guy for us at all. He's more like an AV--he's pretty much coached just veteran teams with expectations of being among the best teams every year. The dislike for Quinn IMO at least stems in part around the impatience of the fanbase---because there is this win now mindset that Rangers fans have carried around since Lundqvist was a rookie and whether or not or how far we are with the rebuild that win now mindset is still there.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Bruh f*** Quinn hire Gallant right now
Dude is an elite coach no idea wtf the Knights are doing
Dude is an elite coach no idea wtf the Knights are doing
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
Because firing Gallant worked out so well for Florida.
GeorgeKaplan
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Do they have the money for that sort of thing?/Would he even want to sign on to an interim GM?
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
Quinn's future will be determined by several things, including:
1. Whether the team feels he is getting the best results, or at least the majority of results out of the roster he has.
2. Whether the Rangers feel young talent is progressing under his guidance.
3. Whether the Rangers push closer to the playoffs (probably next season).
4. Whether the team is tuning him out or still responding.
So far, regardless of whether this board agrees or not, I don't believe management feels that Quinn has crossed a negative threshold with any of these areas.
So until those rumblings start, I don't think anything is on the horizon.
1. Whether the team feels he is getting the best results, or at least the majority of results out of the roster he has.
2. Whether the Rangers feel young talent is progressing under his guidance.
3. Whether the Rangers push closer to the playoffs (probably next season).
4. Whether the team is tuning him out or still responding.
So far, regardless of whether this board agrees or not, I don't believe management feels that Quinn has crossed a negative threshold with any of these areas.
So until those rumblings start, I don't think anything is on the horizon.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
This line from TSN says it all:
"Joel Quenneville has been at the helm for just 45 games in Florida and he is the 18th longest-tenured coach in a 31-team league. Let that sink in."
And as a follow-up to that line, our own David Quinn is now the 13th longest tenured coach in the NHL.
"Joel Quenneville has been at the helm for just 45 games in Florida and he is the 18th longest-tenured coach in a 31-team league. Let that sink in."
And as a follow-up to that line, our own David Quinn is now the 13th longest tenured coach in the NHL.
GeorgeKaplan
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When we had that season where no coaches were fired, and then like maybe one or two over the next year I felt like there was going to be a season coming up where a bunch of them were going to get fired. This season is the opposite end of that because there’s the mix of the coaching etiquette problems and a good amount of teams people thought were going to be good are vastly underperforming
Whoot Whoot
Biased Rangers Fan
This is practically unheard of.
There are some good unhired coaches out there
There are some good unhired coaches out there
NYR Viper
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Probably the fact that they don’t want to be assistants and it would seriously upset the head coach and cause unneeded internal friction
Oscar Lindberg
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Why in any universe would they want to take orders to a second year coach?
They’ll be paid handsomly by some other team and call the shots
n8
WAAAAAAA!!!
would love to replace Ruff and put one of them on deck to replace Quinn if it ever came to that.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
I would throw Quinn into the East River to hire Gallant.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
Aside from the fact that established head coaches don't usually take assistant roles, unless they have no choice or there's a unique circumstance, I don't get the sense that the Rangers are looking to create friction or pressure.
I think they're looking for some stability and a team-approach where the emphasis is on making sure everyone has a role, understands his role, and pushes one another to be better --- without fostering an environment where people are looking over their shoulders.
I think you might see some of that pressure when they feel they're a strong contender and they need that extra push to get them over the top. But even then, probably not quite like this.
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Upside; at least Gallant was at home and the team didn't leave him in Carolina
Most important fact, 3 coaches have gotten fired this year after losing to the Sabres.
Most important fact, 3 coaches have gotten fired this year after losing to the Sabres.
Actually the Florida ownership moved Tallon into a ceremonial role and replaced him with a couple of nerds. They fired Gallant. After the thing imploded, the ownership brought Tallon back.
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