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Around the NHL: Part XIX

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I’m not prepared to judge Quinn on tactics and strategy yet. The team is awful defensively, but at least 75% of that comes from the fact that the forwards as a whole are okay to awful in the defensive zone. I think I would consider 3 of our forwards to be quality defensively. Everyone else is okay to awful.
 
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The issue with the Rangers is roster construction. The bottom half of the roster, especially the fourth line, needs a lot of work. The young players are still developing. Last I checked, this is still the youngest team in the league and it’s going to get younger in the next year.

Quinn, as most coaches, has his faults but I’ll defer a while longer until he has a more complete roster to work with.
 
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bobbop said:
The issue with the Rangers is roster construction. The bottom half of the roster, especially the fourth line, needs a lot of work. The young players are still developing. Last I checked, this is still,the youngest exam in the league and it’s going to get younger in the next year.

Quinn, as most coaches, certainly has his faults but I’ll defer a while longer until he has a more complete roster to work with.
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Yeah. I mean, guys like Chytil, Kakko, and Howden might turn out to be decent or better defensively, but they're not there yet. I think Gettinger is destined to be a quality 4th liner, who is good defensively, but he's not there yet either.

The last time I saw Kravtsov in Hartford, I was pleasantly surprised at his defensive instincts.
 
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LeetchisGod said:
My problem with Quinn is that the team regularly looks unprepared at the start of games and the defensive structure is atrocious.
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Most games I watch their first 10 to 15 minutes is their strongest of the game. Weird you have the opposite view.
 
bobbop said:
The issue with the Rangers is roster construction. The bottom half of the roster, especially the fourth line, needs a lot of work. The young players are still developing. Last I checked, this is still,the youngest exam in the league and it’s going to get younger in the next year.

Quinn, as most coaches, has his faults but I’ll defer a while longer until he has a more complete roster to work with.
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I don't think they want a better 4th line really because there's a cost (waive Brendan Smith? for who exactly. Where's Howden go? What if someone decapitates Kakko? etc.) to changing it out RIGHT NOW and the marginal benefit probably isn't worth it.
 
LeetchisGod said:
My problem with Quinn is that the team regularly looks unprepared at the start of games and the defensive structure is atrocious.
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Those points of yours seemingly are true but I'm not so sure it's a coaching issue and rather we have such a young team. Not sure but I think we have by far the youngest team in the league.

One would think that as our players get more experience, slow starts and better defensive structure will improve significantly.

So tho you are correct, I don't think that takes away from the solid job Quinn has done in raising our little pups, teaching them accountability to the point where even at this point in the rebuild, you can see what an absolute pain in the ass we are to have to play against...ask the Islanders(lol)....that's coaching!
 
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Heard from my AHL guy that there is a line forming for Gallant. He thinks Montreal or Detroit in the next week. Julien apparently on the rocks.
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Yes, according to local media guys in the know, Julien will most probably be fired after Saturday's game against Vegas, after which they have their bye week, leading into the all star break.
Habs will not make the playoff this year and in 3 of the 4 years he's been there.
Detroit makes sense because Yzerman played with him with the Wings and are supposedly still tight...
 
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Graves94 said:
Yes, according to local media guys in the know, Julien will most probably be fired after Saturday's game against Vegas, after which they have their bye week, leading into the all star break.
Habs will not make the playoff this year and in 3 of the 4 years he's been there.
Detroit makes sense because Yzerman played with him with the Wings and are supposedly still tight...
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Detroit may move faster than they planned so they don't lose him.
 
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bobbop said:
Detroit may move faster than they planned so they don't lose him.
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Funny thing is that I was going to say the Habs will move very quickly, because he's a francophone (with a name like Gerard Gallant), but remembered he doesn't speak French, a seeming pre-requisite to be a Habs head coach...
 
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Wow the Red Wing's goal differential (-81) is more than twice that of the next closest team (Devils, -39)

Christ they're bad
 
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LeetchisGod said:
My problem with Quinn is that the team regularly looks unprepared at the start of games and the defensive structure is atrocious.
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looking unprepared...how much of that is on the coaching and how much of that is being a super young team full of guys that don't know how to be professional hockey players yet? not saying that the coaches and vet players don't hold responsibility there but I view this completely differently than if we were a veteran team.

for the defensive structure issues. hartford should be running the same system and don't appear to have any issue here which leads me to believe that the 'game plan' is fine, so with the rangers how much is the coaches not teaching enough vs lack of execution because the players aren't good enough? I'm sure its a combination of both and hopefully we see improvements as the year progresses.
 
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looking unprepared...how much of that is on the coaching and how much of that is being a super young team full of guys that don't know how to be professional hockey players yet? not saying that the coaches and vet players don't hold responsibility there but I view this completely differently than if we were a veteran team.

for the defensive structure issues. hartford should be running the same system and don't appear to have any issue here which leads me to believe that the 'game plan' is fine, so with the rangers how much is the coaches not teaching enough vs lack of execution because the players aren't good enough? I'm sure its a combination of both and hopefully we see improvements as the year progresses.
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Yup, looking unprepared by AV's Rangers vets team is not the same Quinn's youngest team in the NHL.
 
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bobbop said:
Heard from my AHL guy that there is a line forming for Gallant. He thinks Montreal or Detroit in the next week. Julien apparently on the rocks.
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Really...Julien on the firing line? Doesn't make sense or is fair tho that often doesn't matter...lol. In all seriousness, that Canadian team has been absolutely decimated by injuries all this year and he still has them competing like son of a bitches every night. I can't see them letting him go.

Even Detroit I can't see them getting rid of Blashill either seeing they are heavy into a rebuild and so I'd doubt they'd let him go.

I could definitely see the new Seattle franchise tho hiring Gallant tho seeing they obviously know what he did for Vegas in their first year year in the league which was incredible and so maybe they try to find magic in a bottle again.
 
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bobbop said:
The issue with the Rangers is roster construction. The bottom half of the roster, especially the fourth line, needs a lot of work. The young players are still developing. Last I checked, this is still the youngest team in the league and it’s going to get younger in the next year.

Quinn, as most coaches, has his faults but I’ll defer a while longer until he has a more complete roster to work with.
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Quinn is just fine as our coach...he really is. He was brought here due to how well he works and teaches young players and that's exactly what he's been doing. He has this team which is the youngest team in the league by far on the periphery of the playoff bubble and we've beaten the best teams in the league on many occasions thus far.

Quinn IMO has done great and has nothing to worry about as far as job security. I'll make this prediction right now. When we win the Cup sometime in the next decade and I am supremely confident that will occur with the way this team is currently being built , David Quinn will be our coach at the time.

How do you like dem apples?...:)
 
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Maximus said:
Quinn is just fine as our coach...he really is. He was brought here due to how well he works and teaches young players and that's exactly what he's been doing. He has this team which is the youngest team in the league by far on the periphery of the playoff bubble and we've beaten the best teams in the league on many occasions thus far.

Quinn IMO has done great and has nothing to worry about as far as job security. I'll make this prediction right now. When we win the Cup sometime in the next decade and I am supremely confident that will occur with the way this team is currently being built , David Quinn will be our coach at the time.

How do you like dem apples?...:)
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They were saying the same things about Gallant two weeks ago.
 
bobbop said:
They were saying the same things about Gallant two weeks ago.
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Were they? I wasn't aware of this. Gallant and Quinn are in two totally different situations. Gallant I admit I was shocked and still am to be honest that he was fired.

There is no way on gods green earth does Quinn need to worry about his job security whatsoever. I can't see any scenario where Quinn isn't here for the long term as nothing I've seen indicates that he isn't the right guy for the job as we go thru this rebuild.

So no offense Bob and I luv and respect ya bro but there is nothing I see whatsoever that correlates with the Gallant firing and where Quinn is with us. As I said and maybe I am in the minority here...I dunno maybe there is more hate for Quinn than I'm aware of but I think he's done a hell of a good job and I truly do believe that when this team wins a Cup which I truly believe will happen sometime in the next 5-7 years, Quinn will be the coach of the team...:nod:
 
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I love and hate this dude so much.
 
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