Around the NHL (Part XIII): RIP Bob Suter

[No Fun Shogun]

Funny how Miller and Schneider joining 6M goalie club are steals or good value but Crawford somehow is terrible

Post of the year contender.

Not knocking Schneider, but he's at most been a 1A goalie for a single season in the NHL. In Vancouver, he was a 1B or a backup prior to last year, and the past two years he's split way too much time with two non-playoff/early exit teams. Nothing he's done suggests he deserves anywhere near what Crawford or Miller or any other proven goalie has earned.

All we know is that he's looked good and has shown promise, but the annals of the NHL are full of goalies that have shown more promise over longer periods than Schneider only to go on and accomplish nothing longterm. For all we know, he'll be completely out of gas come playoff time if he makes sixty starts in the regular season.

Maybe he becomes a steal, but he ain't anything near that at this point.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Too much for an unproven goalie, but has potential to be a good deal if he can keep his pace up over 60+ GP.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

I think his contract is a very reasonable one.

 

[Sarava]

I would take Schneider in a heartbeat over Crawford.

 

[Chris Hansen]

Really?

Schneider has yet to play more then 45 games in a year

Funny how Miller and Schneider joining 6M goalie club are steals or good value but Crawford somehow is terrible

he plays for the hawks and is only product of them

You guys get it.

I would take Schneider in a heartbeat over Crawford.

...And here I was getting excited about seeing Crawford get his due

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

I would take Schneider in a heartbeat over Crawford.

Yup.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I would want to see Schneider actually carry a #1 workload and perform in playoffs before even thinking of him as better then Crawford

 

[Sarava]

I would want to see Schneider actually carry a #1 workload and perform in playoffs before even thinking of him as better then Crawford

That part is a bit loaded, since he plays for a mediocre team.

 

[Crazy_Ike]

Yup.

Yup.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I'll take Corey and what's he's proven over a talented but unproven goalie.

 

[x Tame Impala]

I would take Schneider in a heartbeat over Crawford.

Based on what?

 

[Kurtosis]

I would take Schneider as well. I see him as much more talented and I think he would be a stud behind this team.

Crawford has gotten the job done before though, so he definitely has that going for him.

 

[Bubba88]

Crawford has been good against the Nucks, was bad against the Yotes, won a Cup with a CS worthy Performance and just was the reason we made it past the Blues and Wild

Schneider has done what exactly?

 

[Chris Hansen]

Crawford has been good against the Nucks, was bad against the Yotes, won a Cup with a CS worthy Performance and just was the reason we made it past the Blues and Wild

Schneider has done what exactly?

He's... well, he's looked kinda good for a few 20 game stretches during his career, man. C'mon. Dat talent.

 

[Bubba88]

how old is he already

right now, Crawford has the better contract and is better

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

how old is he already

right now, Crawford has the better contract and is better

No he's not.

 

[Crazy_Ike]

just was the reason we made it past the Blues and Wild

No he wasnt.

Some of you people seriously need to watch teams besides the Hawks sometime.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Schneider has the potential to be better than Crawford if he can do it for 60+ games consistently. Until he does that, I will take Crawford. But I do agree with others, that Schneider definitely has more talent, it's not really debatable.

 

[Bubba88]

Until Schneider proves it, it's Crawford. Until Schneider does it over 60+ games and in the POs. Until then I take the proven over the potential. So far Schneider never was in the position he is going to be from now on

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Ott is going back to St. Louis.

 

[ColdSteel2]

All we know is that he's looked good and has shown promise, but the annals of the NHL are full of goalies that have shown more promise over longer periods than Schneider only to go on and accomplish nothing longterm. For all we know, he'll be completely out of gas come playoff time if he makes sixty starts in the regular season.

Maybe he becomes a steal, but he ain't anything near that at this point.

Like who? Who has shown more promise over a longer period of time and accomplished nothing long term.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Until Schneider proves it, it's Crawford. Until Schneider does it over 60+ games and in the POs. Until then I take the proven over the potential. So far Schneider never was in the position he is going to be from now on

Crawford has never played 60 games in a season...and in fact Crawford's best numbers (the ones Hawks fans like to point out as proof he's truly 'elite') were put up during a season where he played 30 games. This season - and the 11/12 season - where he was starter a full year, his regular season and playoff numbers were decidedly more pedestrian (and in the case of 11/12 pretty bad).

...and your comment about the playoffs is dumb. Schneider isn't likely to see the playoffs any time soon given how bad his team is. That doesn't say anything about how good he is as a goalie.

 

[ColdSteel2]

So glad Sobotka is gone, that guy was a beast.

 

[Bubba88]

but it says that Crawford has proven it already... Schneider hasn't. I don't care why but I can see that Crawford has won us PO series and he won a Cup.

 

[hisgirlfriday]

So glad Sobotka is gone, that guy was a beast.

Hate to see any player choose the KHL over the NHL but that this happened to the Blues, especially after some of their fans comments on the T/K contracts, gave me a little smirk on my face when I read it.