NHL Around the NHL - Offseason moves and rumblings II - Habs trade Max67 to Vegas

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Actually, Chiasson might allow us to move the overpaid Miller. He's also younger, not to mention better than Miller. Too bad we have to keep Miller because he went to UVM or UNH.

brent I have to ask and please don't take this the wrong way... but just give me a wink or a smile or a nod if the head if you want...

do you intentionally troll us here? ive been reading your posts for awhile and I haven't seen a break of gimmick yet. either you are remarkably talented at this or...

I hope you don't take my question as an insult because ive always assumed most of this is intentional and you are having a ton of fun with us... but if this is real. if you are actually real with your position... then honest to god as your your friend try to inform yourself about positions guys play before you post

you are trying to tell us you know how the team should make decesions about players and you cant even take the time to learn their positions? I see mistakes of this magnitude from you at least 10% of your posts. you CAN NOT offer yourself as an authority on how the team should be run if you don't have a better grasp on things that a typical 10 year old fan would be able to get right

so seriously... you are now getting into my space. I read your posts and I ask myself... is this guy trolling me? or not? ive resisted my urges to ask you about this simply because I always gave you the benefit of the doubt. I did think you were intentionally whacky because you had fun with that act. but are you seriously posting? do you take pain or offense when the rest of us think you are clueless? or is that fun?

if you are being serious... and if you are being hurt when we make fun of you... then please take my advice as a friend. stop these takes of yours until you do some basic homework. learn what positons the players play. study some history to see what type of players are valuable and which ones aren't

alex Chiasson is a very below average 3rd liner who has bounced around 4 organzations in 5 seasons and is about to be on his 5th... no one wants to keep him. he has 124 points in 384 games. that's around an average of 25 per season. hes a career -26 and throws around 1 hit per game over his career which isn't really all that physical either

he has a hot streak when he got some pp time early in his career in dallas and hasn't done anything that our top guys in providence couldn't do ever since. sure... he stays in the nhl but hes a negative. he loses his battles. his advance stats are not good. his team suffers when they are stuck using him because the other team has someone better.

when Chiasson was still 23 we could hope he had upside to his game... but 23 was his best season and hes never been as good ever since. now at 27 he is nearing the age where all people start to lose a step. injuries start to take longer to heal. peak fitness begins to soften

he sucked even in his best seasons... and now you want to bring him in and replace a guy who actually is pretty good?

kevan miller is an 18 min a night dman… so that would make him a 4-5 on most teams. we aren't asking him to be a savior, just solid. he is a career plus 72. that means we are successful with him on the ice. miller throws over twice as many big hits as Chiasson... physical play is important. miller actually averages around 20 points a full season so as a bottom pair dman he pretty much contributes the same offense that chiason does as a 3rd line forward who gets some pp time

its just... crazy that these 2 guys would enter your same train of thought as being comparables to be mentioned in the same sentence

please... just wink... let me know... cause today you worried me a bit

 

[Bruinaura]

Whoa

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Whoa

good player but one who took a huge step. doesn't shock me that he had a bit of help. it isn't quite as bad as when brady Anderson suddenly hit 50 home runs but when a guy improves that much that quick... it does throw up warning flags

 

[TCB]

Chiasson too me just lacks hockey sense. He's has the size can really skate,has a decent release but his overall hockey sense isn't there. Classic case of having a nice tool box but can't use the tools inside it.

No-one really sticks out on the list who I'd want to take a spot or waste salary on, on this current Bruin team.

 

[Bruinaura]

good player but one who took a huge step. doesn't shock me that he had a bit of help. it isn't quite as bad as when brady Anderson suddenly hit 50 home runs but when a guy improves that much that quick... it does throw up warning flags

Unsurprisingly, the Knights disagree

Golden Knights Issue Statement Regarding The Suspension Of Nate Schmidt

And so does Schmidt

 

[Bruinaura]

That's a hunk of money

 

[Alicat]

That's a hunk of money

Next time don’t take a banned substance.

His statement as well as Vegas’ made me laugh.

Suck it up buttercup

 

[Bruinaura]

Next time don’t take a banned substance.

His statement as well as Vegas’ made me laugh.

Suck it up buttercup

Maybe he can go play in Russia

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Really not on topic for the thread but can people go and watch training camp?

 

[Alicat]

Really not on topic for the thread but can people go and watch training camp?

Yes

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Really not on topic for the thread but can people go and watch training camp?

I am no where near boston and couldn't specifically say about them... but I know oilers here are constantly getting the message out on the talk shows about opportunities to watch them in various ways. I haven't been to any practices myself but im under the impression they are open to be watched by anyone who shows up... again im not 100% sure but I think its even free possibly?

definitely the team holds tournament games and exhibitions that are open to public. theres probably lots of stuff they do that isn't open to public... but the on ice stuff im pretty sure is

 

[Fenway]

Next time don’t take a banned substance.

His statement as well as Vegas’ made me laugh.

Suck it up buttercup

Something doesn't add up here

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Something does not smell right with the Schmidt suspension. I think we will have info trickle out about this over the coming month that should give some enlightenment.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Something does not smell right with the Schmidt suspension. I think we will have info trickle out about this over the coming month that should give some enlightenment.

What kind of info? You think the testing is flawed?

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

What kind of info? You think the testing is flawed?

To me the timing is odd. Add to that the reactions of both his agent and team and somethings up. The typical script for these situations is a defense-first response by the team where they "support" the player but await the results of an investigation. Agents usually have a calm denial response or a disappointed/peeved one. The response by the player, agent, and team was all instant and was high anger. It seems like it has a genuine emotion coming through in it. Whether the NHL is splitting hairs on some testing or Nate just barely got caught something is up. I do not have any insider info on this. But it just seems off to me. It will be interesting to hear what trickles out over the next few weeks and see where this see-saws.

 

[DrJustice]

There is only ONE explanation. Vegas is juicing all of their players. They have just spread the juice billionths of a milligram among their players to fly under the radar.

Diabolical.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I’m not saying he’s definitely guilty, but this isn’t the first time positive drug tests have been met with “outrage” by the player/agent and the guy turned out to be dirty.

Rafael Palmeiro and Ryan Braun immediately come to mind.

 

[Alicat]

Something doesn't add up here

He’s already lost his appeal with an independent arbitrator.

I have no sympathy for him.

 

[Fenway]

He’s already lost his appeal with an independent arbitrator.

I have no sympathy for him.

@Alicat There is no such thing as an independent arbitrator since both sides are footing the bill but if decisions go heavily in one direction another arbitrator is found. You see this all the time with health insurance and prescriptions.

In 1975 Peter Seitz an arbitrator pleaded with MLB owners to make a deal before he issued his decision and the head of the players association was on board with that.

Four decades later, free agency still fuels baseball

I know someone who was on probation and flunked a drug test back in the 80's and was jailed immediately and it took 6 months to sort out that a roll he had eaten at Au Bon Pain had created a false positive and he was absolved of doing anything wrong BUT he still spent 6 months in Billerica.

This appears to be borderline unlike someone named Manny that had results that would cause the White Sox scoreboard to explode.

We know David Ortiz tested positive for something in 2003 but he claims to this day he was never told what. We can also assume Roger Clemens did NOT test positive in 2003 because it would have been leaked.

I have my own theory about Roger and I believe that he signed with Toronto in 1997 because certain PED's were legal in Canada.

 

[Alicat]

@Alicat There is no such thing as an independent arbitrator since both sides are footing the bill but if decisions go heavily in one direction another arbitrator is found. You see this all the time with health insurance and prescriptions.

In 1975 Peter Seitz an arbitrator pleaded with MLB owners to make a deal before he issued his decision and the head of the players association was on board with that.

Four decades later, free agency still fuels baseball

I know someone who was on probation and flunked a drug test back in the 80's and was jailed immediately and it took 6 months to sort out that a roll he had eaten at Au Bon Pain had created a false positive and he was absolved of doing anything wrong BUT he still spent 6 months in Billerica.

This appears to be borderline unlike someone named Manny that had results that would cause the White Sox scoreboard to explode.

We know David Ortiz tested positive for something in 2003 but he claims to this day he was never told what. We can also assume Roger Clemens did NOT test positive in 2003 because it would have been leaked.

I have my own theory about Roger and I believe that he signed with Toronto in 1997 because certain PED's were legal in Canada.

He still lost his appeal despite his experts.

The league and Schmidt know a lot more than what is being reported.

Why hasn’t the substance been named?

I have my own theory about that but I prefer not to be banned from the board so I’ll keep it to myself.

 

[Don Cherry]

What does a 4th line RW have to do with RD?

Some players are so gifted that (I feel anyways) that they can play multiple positions.

 

[Bread and Circuses]

I bet most players use or have used a banned substance at once point or another, especially for recovery.

 

[Pia8988]

Some players are so gifted that (I feel anyways) that they can play multiple positions.

If only you were clever, then this could at least have some entertainment.

 

[LouJersey]

Nasty Nate needs to stop hanging with Edelman in the off season.

What did he take?

 

[McGarnagle]

I think that at the beginning of the year every year going into juniors, NCAA, the AHL, and NHL, the players should sit through a workshop on the physical effects and consequences of PEDs, supplements, and recreational drugs, then from there just let them sign a waiver and do what they want with their own bodies.

At this point, who even cares anymore? Why do we feign anger when some minor league baseball prospect turns out to be a CHEATING CHEATER and is suspended 81 games for a trace amount of some kind of muscle building supplement you can buy as GNC?

They're grown men, let them do what they want and deal with the ramifications later.