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mk80

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People screaming at the Blues loyalty but Vegas just gave Carolina Patches and Coughlin for free so they can play with their Shiney new Eichel.

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To Injury, and beyond!
 

PocketNines

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Earlier today it was reported Columbus offered 7 x 12M. Looks like Gaudreau came back and asked for 7 x 9.8M and they shook on it
 

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Gaudreau to Columbus. Down goes Calgary.

Pacioretty to Carolina. Down goes Vegas.

Colorado and STL are looking to the best left standing in the West.
 

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Now that Gaudreau is signed, the next big domino to sign that will really determine the Cup favorite next season could be Zachary Sanford.
 
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Gaudreau to Columbus. Down goes Calgary.

Pacioretty to Carolina. Down goes Vegas.

Colorado and STL are looking to the best left standing in the West.
All of the teams who got better were in the East. Carolina got Patches for nothing, CBJ got Johnny, Detroit got some good pieces.

No one in the central got better. We lost Perron, Avs lost Kadri and downgraded Goaltending, and the rest got horribly worst (Chicago) or nothing really happened. Nashville would be the only Central team to actually upgrade.
 
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Woah, Johnny Hockey to Columbus over NJ and NYI. Did not see that coming. Now Kadri is the only real big piece left out there. I know Army won't trade Vladi now that Perron has moved on but damn you have to think desperation is setting in for those teams at this point.

Also I am actually very happy for Columbus, after getting nothing for Panarin and seeing him move on it is nice for that fanbase to get a win.
 

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like i said, geaudreau dont care about winning. cares about living in US

columbus is going nowhere so he dont have to worry bout playoff choking for a while
 

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I've gotten push back on this site from a couple posters over my views about disliking Vegas' management style. Add another exhibit with dumping Pacioretty for future considerations today. That team is impossible to feel affection for, the way they run it. If you told me the mafia was running the team, but they treated players better, I'd be more inclined to root for them.

I can understand why Pietro was so adamant about the NMC. Its extremely relevant given his current environment!
 

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I've gotten push back on this site from a couple posters over my views about disliking Vegas' management style. Add another exhibit with dumping Pacioretty for future considerations today. That team is impossible to feel affection for, the way they run it. If you told me the mafia was running the team, but they treated players better, I'd be more inclined to root for them.

I can understand why Pietro was so adamant about the NMC. Its extremely relevant given his current environment!
Pushback?

Its a mercenary organization run like a cheap slot machine in a dive bar in Vegas.

like i said, geaudreau dont care about winning. cares about living in US

columbus is going nowhere so he dont have to worry bout playoff choking for a while
Brutal
 
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As if it wasn't already apparent, Vegas is brutally cutthroat. Jesus. If you sign there, rent, don't buy.

And I'm over the moon happy for Columbus. I've always had a soft spot for that franchise and they needed a star vet to put butts in seats and help their core along. The east is brutal but I hope they are at least a bubble team.
 
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mk80

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I've gotten push back on this site from a couple posters over my views about disliking Vegas' management style. Add another exhibit with dumping Pacioretty for future considerations today. That team is impossible to feel affection for, the way they run it. If you told me the mafia was running the team, but they treated players better, I'd be more inclined to root for them.

I can understand why Pietro was so adamant about the NMC. Its extremely relevant given his current environment!
As we've seen with Vegas though apparently they don't check those types of clauses before making trades :sarcasm:

Also what a fantastic tweet by the Canes LOL

 

Davimir Tarablad

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They got 4 years out of him. If they had traded for a guy with 4 years of term, nobody would be batting an eye at how much they paid even if they lost him for nothing.
While Pacioretty spent 4 years in Vegas, Tatar played 28 RS+PO games for them. So they traded what amounted to two 1sts, two 2nds, and a 3rd for Pacioretty and even had to retain 500k for 3 years on Tatar. That’s a massive amount of value to trade for any player.

Separately, in consecutive offseasons, they have traded the at the time reigning Vezina winner and now a top line forward for absolutely nothing except cap space because of their cap issues.

And while both parts involve Pacioretty, each move is individually awful asset management in it’s own rights.
 

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Pushback?

Its a mercenary organization run like a cheap slot machine in a dive bar in Vegas.


Brutal
I was complaining about a couple of their moves last year, and was told that they were no different than other teams in the league, the way they approach trades. Fast forward a year and they had the Dadonov debacle, the ill-advised trade for Eichel (ill-advised because they don't have cap space for him without gutting their team further!) and now jettisoning Pacioretty for literally nothing.

Its not like Pacioretty hasn't performed well. He's more than lived up to the hopes anyone would have had when he signed his contract, production-wise. He's had some injury, but nothing that is expected to fundamentally alter his projections going forward. I don't expect teams to show players loyalty to the point it hurts them, but there should be SOME acknowledgement that they're human beings. Its hard to think of a more insulting action a team could take with him other than placing him on waivers. That's pretty much what they did, except he was able to have a bit of influence on what team claimed him due to his NTC (I think he names 20 teams or something).

But the Vegas management decided it was better to add Eichel and subtract more contributing roster players, when they ALREADY couldn't manage that cap to re-sign their RFAs. They missed the playoffs because they have whittled their depth so thin they couldn't navigate some injuries. That type of roster frailty is only going to be more pronounced now. Its going to be hard to avoid laughing at them if they missed the playoffs this coming season for similar reasons. (Although the Pacific doesn't look especially difficult at this point.)

Whatever, I'm glad they're not my primary team. I do sincerely wonder what the guys still on the team think when they see moves like the Dadonov trades and now the Pacioretty "trade". It has to increase anxiety a bit and build little resentments here and there. How could it not?
 

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I was complaining about a couple of their moves last year, and was told that they were no different than other teams in the league, the way they approach trades. Fast forward a year and they had the Dadonov debacle, the ill-advised trade for Eichel (ill-advised because they don't have cap space for him without gutting their team further!) and now jettisoning Pacioretty for literally nothing.

Its not like Pacioretty hasn't performed well. He's more than lived up to the hopes anyone would have had when he signed his contract, production-wise. He's had some injury, but nothing that is expected to fundamentally alter his projections going forward. I don't expect teams to show players loyalty to the point it hurts them, but there should be SOME acknowledgement that they're human beings. Its hard to think of a more insulting action a team could take with him other than placing him on waivers. That's pretty much what they did, except he was able to have a bit of influence on what team claimed him due to his NTC (I think he names 20 teams or something).

But the Vegas management decided it was better to add Eichel and subtract more contributing roster players, when they ALREADY couldn't manage that cap to re-sign their RFAs. They missed the playoffs because they have whittled their depth so thin they couldn't navigate some injuries. That type of roster frailty is only going to be more pronounced now. Its going to be hard to avoid laughing at them if they missed the playoffs this coming season for similar reasons. (Although the Pacific doesn't look especially difficult at this point.)

Whatever, I'm glad they're not my primary team. I do sincerely wonder what the guys still on the team think when they see moves like the Dadonov trades and now the Pacioretty "trade". It has to increase anxiety a bit and build little resentments here and there. How could it not?

I read all of this with a smile.
 
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bleedblue1223

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Yeah for all the talk about how players won't want to come here with how Army has treated some players, all that stuff happens all the time, but what happens in Vegas is just nuts. Money, winning, and a city can do a lot, but I have to imagine at a certain point they are going to struggle signing players that don't have a NMC.
 

Eldon Reid

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Yeah for all the talk about how players won't want to come here with how Army has treated some players, all that stuff happens all the time, but what happens in Vegas is just nuts. Money, winning, and a city can do a lot, but I have to imagine at a certain point they are going to struggle signing players that don't have a NMC.

Yep and now you see why Pietro was adamant on NMC in Vegas.

Vegas treats players horribly. Fleury, Patches, & so on.
 
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