Around the NHL: HOCKEY’S BACK BABY

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Zman5778

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this is horse shit. So the Senators are essentially get significantly more time to figure out their cap situation AND still get to bring him back after the suspension?


Doesn't really matter. His cap hit isn't going to count due to the off-ice suspension. And I'm pretty sure he'll still need to sign a contract for his suspension to actually start.
 

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Can anyone explain to me why his suspension is apparently "retro-active" and currently running, regardless of him not having a contract and not even being eligible to play? The suspension should start on the first date he is eligible to actually play.
I mean, its the NHL.

Looking for logic and/or consistency from them is a futile effort.
 

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Can anyone explain to me why his suspension is apparently "retro-active" and currently running, regardless of him not having a contract and not even being eligible to play? The suspension should start on the first date he is eligible to actually play.
Probably because he's RFA, if he was UFA it probably wouldn't start until he was signed.
 
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Taking a brief look at the CBA (so don't weigh this too heavily), it looks like discipline for off-ice conduct is far more a matter of the commissioner's discretion than for on-ice conduct. For on-ice conduct, a player may be fined or suspended for a fixed number of games. For off-ice conduct, a player may be fined, be suspended or expelled from the league for an indefinite or definite period, or have their SPC cancelled. Suspensions do not necessarily have to be for a fixed number of games (even though this one is being described as such) and may be through a certain date.

Anyway, this all seems like kind of a moot point to me. Obviously the parties here knew this was coming, since there was a league investigation and the player has a right to a hearing prior to discipline being imposed. If Pinto had needed to be under contract for the suspension to go into effect, then it would have been in both his interest and the Senators' interest for him to already be under contract. Also under such circumstances, it would have been in the league's interest to expedite proceedings to prevent Pinto from taking the ice for the Senators while discipline was pending against him. Either way, it doesn't really make any difference to Ottawa's cap outlook as it stands now.
 

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It will be interesting to see how Craiger handles this...


According to multiple sources, one of the major issues leading to Pinto’s penalty was along the lines of “proxy betting,” where another individual or individuals have access to a legal account in his name. Companies like FanDuel specifically ban this practice. The state of New Jersey fined DraftKings $150,000 in March 2022 for allowing large (and illegal) proxy bets.

It’s not uncommon for pro athletes to have legal accounts, which are heavily monitored by the online site they sign up with. It’s in these companies' best interests to know if the players are in any way compromised. What could have complicated Pinto’s situation is where his account is based. He’s from New York State, and, for example, if a friend placed bets on a day the Senators were in Ottawa, it would be easily discoverable.

It’s rare for small bettors, but it’s a potential legal issue, since it’s across federal and state lines.

Sharing your Netflix login is OK.

Sharing your DraftKings login is not.
 

old kummelweck

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Heh, a league with rampant ties to online gambling and someone violated policy? Chickens... roost.
Exactly.

The 41 games, they want to send a STRONG message, but it seems like Pinto's silence is part of the deal, meaning the league DOES NOT want to have this conversation. No one in hockey is going to bring up the Gretzky-Tochett thing, but this sounds like it may have been similar.

If this guy has a problem, hopefully they get him some help. But this is going to pop up every so often and the league will have to continue to come down hard on the offenders. Gambling can be an addiction and this could have happened to any team.
 
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