Around The NHL Discussion 2021-22 Part II

[joe galiba]

But which taxes did they just increase?

not sure, but I know their sales tax is below average for the US, and their income tax is now about average for the US

 

[Spektre]

The Islanders finally signed everyone and I’m still confused. Their cap hit is 85.2m before the Parise money. I don’t get it

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

The Islanders finally signed everyone and I’m still confused. Their cap hit is 85.2m before the Parise money. I don’t get it

Boychuk on LTIR

 

[Spektre]

Boychuk on LTIR

Ahh I see he’s unofficially retired

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Blues, You literally just need to use a white version of our last Winter Classic jersey. Hell even the white version of the Mid-90s jersey would be better than this.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Blues, You literally just need to use a white version of our last Winter Classic jersey. Hell even the white version of the Mid-90s jersey would be better than this.

not a very good jersey and the brown pants make it worse

 

[Linkens Mastery]

not a very good jersey and the brown pants make it worse

I mean I understand where it's coming from, but the brown pants and gloves are hideous.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

I mean I understand where it's coming from, but the brown pants and gloves are hideous.

agree.. while those 'vintage' jerseys are usually not great looking, you can appreciate the history enough to get past it

but brown pants? ugh

 

[Linkens Mastery]

agree.. while those 'vintage' jerseys are usually not great looking, you can appreciate the history enough to get past it

but brown pants? ugh

All they had to do was Dark green pants and gloves. Lol

 

[ChicagoBlues]

All they had to do was Dark green pants and gloves. Lol

Another way to look at it is that many retro, old-timey uniforms were ugly af, so maybe it’s a Celebration of Ugly.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

All they had to do was Dark green pants and gloves. Lol

even orange would have been better

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Habs don’t match.

 

[tfriede2]

Habs don’t match.

Lose your 3rd overall for a (likely) late 1st and a 3rd. Ouch. Granted, KK for 1 year (and QO after that) for 6 mil was a lot as well.

 

[Bluesnatic27]

Lose your 3rd overall for a (likely) late 1st and a 3rd. Ouch. Granted, KK for 1 year (and QO after that) for 6 mil was a lot as well.

Eh it’s Montreal, they weren’t going to develop him well to begin with.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Eh it’s Montreal, they weren’t going to develop him well to begin with.

True. They’ve drafted so many guys I thought were interesting prospects and basically none have reached their potential in Montreal.

 

[Celtic Note]

I honestly don’t know what to make of the situations in Montreal and Carolina. Carolina got a potentially good asset but one that hasn’t lived up to his potential and paid dearly to do it.

Montreal seems to be taking steps backward despite having had some good drafting opportunities over the years and some decent runs that seem like they just started. Are either heading in a positive direction as one would have expected some 6 months ago?

 

[Bluesnatic27]

True. They’ve drafted so many guys I thought were interesting prospects and basically none have reached their potential in Montreal.

Oh it goes well beyond that. The last 10 years of drafting from Montreal has been abysmal. The best player they’ve drafted, developed, and has remained on the team since 2011 is Arrturi Lehkonen. Even before then, the last great success from the scouting and development staff was Gallagher in 2010. There will always be questions on whether it’s the team or the players, but Montreal has not had much of a case of it being the latter.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Oh it goes well beyond that. The last 10 years of drafting from Montreal has been abysmal. The best player they’ve drafted, developed, and has remained on the team since 2011 is Arrturi Lehkonen. Even before then, the last great success from the scouting and development staff was Gallagher in 2010. There will always be questions on whether it’s the team or the players, but Montreal has not had much of a case of it being the latter.

Obviously jury is still out on recent guys, but they sure seem to eat their young.

 

[Xerloris]

I honestly don’t know what to make of the situations in Montreal and Carolina. Carolina got a potentially good asset but one that hasn’t lived up to his potential and paid dearly to do it.

Montreal seems to be taking steps backward despite having had some good drafting opportunities over the years and some decent runs that seem like they just started. Are either heading in a positive direction as one would have expected some 6 months ago?

I don't think anything matters but sticking it to Montreal for trying to do the same to them.

 

[BadgersandBlues]

Montreal will be fine. KK wasn't doing much of anything after his rookie season and Dvorak will probably be better this year and next year, with a much more reasonable cap hit. Carolina just overpaid significantly for a guy who's at best their third line center. They lost their best goalie and their best Dman.....I'm interested to see how it all works out for them.

I'm super glad at least -some- GMs are finally using offer sheets.....it's about time they stop with the good old boys club and actually start using all the tools at their disposal to win.

 

[simon IC]

Montreal will be fine. KK wasn't doing much of anything after his rookie season and Dvorak will probably be better this year and next year, with a much more reasonable cap hit. Carolina just overpaid significantly for a guy who's at best their third line center. They lost their best goalie and their best Dman.....I'm interested to see how it all works out for them.

I'm super glad at least -some- GMs are finally using offer sheets.....it's about time they stop with the good old boys club and actually start using all the tools at their disposal to win.

I disagree that they lost their best defenseman. I think both Slavin and Pesce are better than Hamilton. I think Hamilton is overrated.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

I disagree that they lost their best defenseman. I think both Slavin and Pesce are better than Hamilton. I think Hamilton is overrated.

Slavin has been their best for several years. But I’d take Hamilton (contract aside) over Pesce pretty easily.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Montreal will be fine. KK wasn't doing much of anything after his rookie season and Dvorak will probably be better this year and next year, with a much more reasonable cap hit. Carolina just overpaid significantly for a guy who's at best their third line center. They lost their best goalie and their best Dman.....I'm interested to see how it all works out for them.

I'm super glad at least -some- GMs are finally using offer sheets.....it's about time they stop with the good old boys club and actually start using all the tools at their disposal to win.

I actually think this exchange of offer sheets is going to chill offer sheets again league-wide. It reminds me of St Louis retaliating for the Backes offer sheet. Only the stakes were much higher this time and Montreal didn't match.

 

[BadgersandBlues]

I actually think this exchange of offer sheets is going to chill offer sheets again league-wide. It reminds me of St Louis retaliating for the Backes offer sheet. Only the stakes were much higher this time and Montreal didn't match.

It really depends on how he plays - if he lights it up, I think a bunch of other teams might start thinking about it more seriously. If he falls hard, there's probably going to be a chilling.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

It really depends on how he plays - if he lights it up, I think a bunch of other teams might start thinking about it more seriously. If he falls hard, there's probably going to be a chilling.

I could see him improving, but not to the point where it lights up everyone's eyes.. not in 1 yr anyways