Around The NHL Discussion 2021-22 Part II

[ChicagoBlues]

No, it’s a minimum toi of 20.

whatever

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

whatever

I didn’t post the graph, but it actually seems like a good representation of components of suckiness for these guys.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I didn’t post the graph, but it actually seems like a good representation of components of suckiness for these guys.

Yes, I know you didn't post it, but it's still a shitty graph.

I've been through so many methods situations that I have a hard time respecting the way in which data is presented. If it's not intuitive, then it sucks. Trying to explain too much in a single graph is messy as capturing multiple dimensions within a single graph AND making it understandable is difficult.

The creators of this graph were trying to be elegant, but it comes off as super clunky.

keep it simple stupid

 

[PocketNines]

Let's trade Krug and Barbashev for Bad Graphman, keep Tarasenko, and become instant Stanley Cup contenders.

 

[elkranio]

Refs sure do love their avalanche

 

[Stealth JD]

There's a greater than 0% chance that Friday, November 12th becomes must watch hockey for hockey fans everywhere. Arizona and Chicago could both enter this head-to-head matchup with zero combined wins against 27 combined losses. If the cosmos could find a way to make this happen with two oh-for-the-seasons meeting in a battle of futility, I might just have a happy holiday season because of that alone.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

There's a greater than 0% chance that Friday, November 12th becomes must watch hockey for hockey fans everywhere. Arizona and Chicago could both enter this head-to-head matchup with zero combined wins against 27 combined losses. If the cosmos could find a way to make this happen with two oh-for-the-seasons meeting in a battle of futility, I might just have a happy holiday season because of that alone.

Must see TV right there. But who do we want to win...

 

[Celtic Note]

Must see TV right there. But who do we want to win...

Because of what has transpired in Hawk land, because we are blues fans with the Hawks as hated rivals and because the the Yotes have been bad for so long, I would vote for a Yotes win.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Because of what has transpired in Hawk land, because we are blues fans with the Hawks as hated rivals and because the the Yotes have been bad for so long, I would vote for a Yotes win.

I would as well, but, I also want the Hawks to win enough so that only qualify for the 3rd overall pick or later.

 

[Celtic Note]

I would as well, but, I also want the Hawks to win enough so that only qualify for the 3rd overall pick or later.

Touché

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Touché

I just want then to be bad enough that they suffer, but, Good enough that they don't get a top two overall pick. It's probably pretty toxic of me. But I want them to have a hard time crawling out of that hole they dug themselves into.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I would as well, but, I also want the Hawks to win enough so that only qualify for the 3rd overall pick or later.

They traded their pick to Columbus, but get it back if they win 1st or 2nd pick in the draft lottery. Doesn’t matter where they actually finish.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

I'd love to see them win a lotto pick only to be stripped of it as punishment for being a pile of shit organization.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

They traded their pick to Columbus, but get it back if they win 1st or 2nd pick in the draft lottery. Doesn’t matter where they actually finish.

It does because where they end up in the standings determines what chance they have to get a lottery pick.

 

[Spektre]

I hate Vegas

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

I hate Vegas

Did they pull off an Eichel deal already?

 

[Spektre]

Did they pull off an Eichel deal already?

Not yet but I guess they’re going for it

 

[DoubleK81]

Watching the Ducks - Habs game, and caught a glimpse of someone taking a one-timer and scoring from the top of the RW circle. Didn't even have to see the player to know it was Hoffman. Jesus thats such a wicked shot he has.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

What would Vegas even trade for Eichel, and how would they fit him under the Cap when he’s ready?

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

What would Vegas even trade for Eichel, and how would they fit him under the Cap when he’s ready?

Tuch and Theodore make just under $10mm combined, so maybe start there.

 

[DoubleK81]

Tuch and Theodore make just under $10mm combined, so maybe start there.

Yep. All these Vegas fans think its going to be easy and cheap to get done. Its a minimum of 2 well regarded roster players just to get the cap CLOSE, plus a top prospect and multiple picks. Its going to hurt, and I'm not sure that its going to fix their issues without taking steps backwards more than forwards.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Yep. All these Vegas fans think its going to be easy and cheap to get done. Its a minimum of 2 well regarded roster players just to get the cap CLOSE, plus a top prospect and multiple picks. Its going to hurt, and I'm not sure that its going to fix their issues without taking steps backwards more than forwards.

yeah, I suspect picks or prospects on top of those 2.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I have a strong belief that Patches is going to be going the other way. Just increasing the long revolving door of players going in and out of Vegas. Good thing Pietrangelo got that NMC or he'd be traded sooner or later as well.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

If you were Vegas and had to choose between Pietro and Theodore today, ignoring the NMC, who would you pick?

 

[BadgersandBlues]

If you were Vegas and had to choose between Pietro and Theodore today, ignoring the NMC, who would you pick?

I mean Theodore is the obvious choice - he's cheaper, signed through what you would expect to be his prime, and at significantly less dollars. That contract is a bargain. AP is a great player, but he's around market value and older. If I'm building a team around Eichel and the next 4-5 years, Theodore is the obvious keep.