Around The NHL Discussion 2021-22 Part II

[Bye Bye Blueston]

I take it back. 2 minutes of Buffalo versus San Jose makes flames look like Gretzky oilers.

Watching 3rd period and OT of rangers Canucks redeemed the hockey evening. Crazy action and demko without his stick or blocker making incredible skate save.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Army gonna f*** around and fleece Buffalo again isn't he?

 

[BlueDream]

Well hopefully Tkachuk does get traded to Buffalo. Will make him want to walk and sign here even quicker.

 

[Itsnotatrap]

Buffalo trying to get to Vegas’s best offer by sharing this?

 

[ezcreepin]

Ok what are the odds that Tkachuk wants to sign in St. Louis? Obviously Matt and Brady grew up here and have ties, but is it the case that Matt just wants to test free agency, or is this a Parise/Suter scenario where they both wanted to go to Minnesota? I'm all for Tkachuk being on this team since I believe Tarasenko will be out, but we'd have to find a way to fit his cap and others next season.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Matthew has always seemed like he was way more invested into St. Louis than his little brother. If that equates to him wanting to get to FA faster to come home, I have no clue.

 

[Celtic Note]

I don’t want MK if it costs more than he is worth.

 

[Stealth JD]

Eichel to Vegas nearly done. Tuch, Krebs, 1st

 

[Ranksu]

Countdown hfboards crashing 1...2....3...

 

[Ranksu]

So funny how low they got Eichel. Buffalo better hope Vegas doesn't success this season and that 1st round pick is something decent.

Vegas will be powerhouse when and if Eichel is 100%. They got their 1 center just like that. Jeesus.

 

[Spektre]

So funny how low they got Eichel. Buffalo better hope Vegas doesn't success this season and that 1st round pick is something decent.

Vegas will be powerhouse when and if Eichel is 100%. They got their 1 center just like that. Jeesus.

Buffalo got hosed but what else is new?

 

[Stealth JD]

Buffalo got hosed but what else is new?

I'm not so sure. Team is playing better without Eichel, and is about to add Tuch and Krebs. The first could be a lottery pick if Vegas bottoms out. Remember - Stone, Patches, Eichel and now Karlsson are out injured. They have decent depth on defense, but their forwards are currently gutted. I won't be surprised to see Vegas miss the playoffs this year.

If Vegas give Buffalo a pick that becomes a top-10 selection, that's about as good as it gets for a player who is currently on LTIR.

 

[Celtic Note]

Pick is top 10 protected

 

[Celtic Note]

Who does Vegas have to lose next year to make Eichel fit?

 

[bleedblue1223]

With current signed players, if the cap remains the same, they have $3,662,500 to fill 7 spots for next season. I think Dadonov is definitely traded, Smith probably isn't brought back or returns on a significant discount.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Holy shit, I decided to randomly look up Chychrun's stats, 0 points and -16. His expected +/- is just -2.5. That team is going to be historically bad this year.

Vejmelka is putting up incredible numbers in net for them though.

 

[Thallis]

Holy shit, I decided to randomly look up Chychrun's stats, 0 points and -16. His expected +/- is just -2.5. That team is going to be historically bad this year.

Vejmelka is putting up incredible numbers in net for them though.

I said this during our game, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't hit 15 wins this year.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I said this during our game, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't hit 15 wins this year.

I'll be very curious how it impacts their value at the trade deadline because most likely none of them are going to look very good, despite some of them being a lot better than how they will look. Although, not many of them have much value to begin with, so maybe Kessel is the main one that fits the description.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Krebs is absolutely the critical piece in that Eichel trade. We know Tuch is a solid middle six, maybe second line guy. Plus a lottery protected first. If Krebs doesn’t develop into a first line player Buffalo loses this trade by a country mile.

I know Eichel is hurt but man, how fan you not even get an unprotected first for him?

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Intersting analysis on everyone’s favorite ex blue.

 

[Thallis]

Intersting analysis on everyone’s favorite ex blue.

This is a pretty good analysis. I'm obviously pretty biased here, but I'd find it hard to believe that the decline from 4 months is what led to the high failure rate as noted in the article and what we saw from him in the playoffs last year. I'm very much taking the over on "trying to do too much to cover for injured teammates" than outright decline.

 

[bleedblue1223]

This is a pretty good analysis. I'm obviously pretty biased here, but I'd find it hard to believe that the decline from 4 months is what led to the high failure rate as noted in the article and what we saw from him in the playoffs last year. I'm very much taking the over on "trying to do too much to cover for injured teammates" than outright decline.

Yeah, I know it's a different sport, but it's like Mahomes trying to do too much to make up for a terrible o-line and defense. Petro will bounceback IMO. Star players definitely try to force things when things aren't going well for the team or when injuries start piling up.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Pietrangelo is going to be bought out by year 5.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

This is a pretty good analysis. I'm obviously pretty biased here, but I'd find it hard to believe that the decline from 4 months is what led to the high failure rate as noted in the article and what we saw from him in the playoffs last year. I'm very much taking the over on "trying to do too much to cover for injured teammates" than outright decline.

I think you are right in your diagnosis. But is a reminder that aging for players isn’t always predictable and team context matters a great deal.

 

[bleedblue1223]

It is correct though, players that are aggressive and rely on their speed, both skating and reaction, will tend to have these periods in early 30s where they have to adjust their game as they start losing a bit of their skating speed or reaction time. No reason they can't still be top players in their 30s, they just have to change their game a bit.