Toggle sidebar

Around The NHL Discussion 2021-22 Part II

  • Xenforo Cloud has upgraded us to version 2.3.6. Please report any issues you experience.
  • We are currently aware of "log in/security error" issues that are affecting some users. We apologize and ask for your patience as we try to get these issues fixed.
Status
Not open for further replies.
Seriously f*** Vegas. Such an easy team to root against. Having said that, I'm happy Eichel can FINALLY get a neck surgery to reduce whatever pain he is in. I was in a high speed car wreck this past summer and seriously, the pain doesn't go away just from physical therapy. It's a years long journey.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Zezel’s Pretzels and Bye Bye Blueston
Davimir Tarablad said:
Vegas is going to have an absolutely atrocious bottom 6 with the addition of Eichel
Click to expand...
They got their franchise center. Piece what they missed. Losing Touch hurts. Krebs is potential, but isn't yet game changer. Most likely that 1st round pick will be + 25pick.

Buffalo literally got arse f up. Feel bad Buffalo fans.

ROR out
Ristolainen out
Ullmark out
Reinhart out
Eichel out

Who else?

That franchise is absolute joke.
 
I think Vegas is worse off then they were before, even with a healthy Eichel.

They loose skilled youth which is key to staying competitive in the long run, and size which is key in the pacific/west. Tuch is built for playoffs and put up .5 pt/game in postseason career.

Then you have the picks which are nothing to scoff at. They will have to get creative in moving salary to stay competitive in the long run.
 
STLegend said:
I think Vegas is worse off then they were before, even with a healthy Eichel.

They loose skilled youth which is key to staying competitive in the long run, and size which is key in the pacific/west. Tuch is built for playoffs and put up .5 pt/game in postseason career.

Then you have the picks which are nothing to scoff at. They will have to get creative in moving salary to stay competitive in the long run.
Click to expand...
Vegas got their 1 center. Franchise center.

Thing what Vegas missed.

Remember how Eichel carry alone Buffalo?

How Eichel play is he is going to match perfectly in Vegas.

Now he has good team around him. Watch out.
 
Ranksu said:
Vegas got their 1 center. Franchise center.

Thing what Vegas missed.

Remember how Eichel carry alone Buffalo?

How Eichel play is he is going to match perfectly in Vegas.

Now he has good team around him. Watch out.
Click to expand...


Do I remember Eichel carrying Buffalo? Carrying them where? To finish in the bottom of the Atlantic division every one of the 6 years he was there? Sure do.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DoubleK81 and The Electrician
STLegend said:
I think Vegas is worse off then they were before, even with a healthy Eichel.

They loose skilled youth which is key to staying competitive in the long run, and size which is key in the pacific/west. Tuch is built for playoffs and put up .5 pt/game in postseason career.

Then you have the picks which are nothing to scoff at. They will have to get creative in moving salary to stay competitive in the long run.
Click to expand...

I am willing to bet you basically anything that Eichel will vastly outproduce Tuch in the playoffs. It was beyond clear last year that they needed a top center and they just got one.

STLegend said:
Do I remember Eichel carrying Buffalo? Carrying them where? To finish in the bottom of the Atlantic division every one of the 6 years he was there? Sure do.
Click to expand...

People said the same thing about ROR, but Eichel did more for Buffalo than ROR did.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ranksu and Bye Bye Blueston
Thallis said:
I am willing to bet you basically anything that Eichel will vastly outproduce Tuch in the playoffs. It was beyond clear last year that they needed a top center and they just got one.



People said the same thing about ROR, but Eichel did more for Buffalo than ROR did.
Click to expand...

Wake up, I didn't say Tuch will outproduce Eichel. A well rounded, deep team, will always go further in the playoffs than a top heavy team. Show me the last cup winners that didn't rely on a solid 3rd and 4th line.

I also didn't say that Eichel was worthless bc Buffalo never had postseason success. I pointed out the flaw in the statement that Eichel carried Buffalo, bc he didn't, Buffalo never amounted to anything in the years he was there so how could you say he carried them anywhere?
 
STLegend said:
I think Vegas is worse off then they were before, even with a healthy Eichel.

They loose skilled youth which is key to staying competitive in the long run, and size which is key in the pacific/west. Tuch is built for playoffs and put up .5 pt/game in postseason career.

Then you have the picks which are nothing to scoff at. They will have to get creative in moving salary to stay competitive in the long run.
Click to expand...
If eichel returns to health and form, there is basically no way this is true. Vegas taking risk on full recovery, but there is no way pre-injury eichel doesn’t make them hugely better.
 
STLegend said:
Wake up, I didn't say Tuch will outproduce Eichel. A well rounded, deep team, will always go further in the playoffs than a top heavy team. Show me the last cup winners that didn't rely on a solid 3rd and 4th line.

I also didn't say that Eichel was worthless bc Buffalo never had postseason success. I pointed out the flaw in the statement that Eichel carried Buffalo, bc he didn't, Buffalo never amounted to anything in the years he was there so how could you say he carried them anywhere?
Click to expand...
You need both. But there are far, far more good 3rd line wingers than true #1 centers. I’m a big tuch fan but it’s much easier to replace him than eichel.
 
Blueston said:
You need both. But there are far, far more good 3rd line wingers than true #1 centers. I’m a big tuch fan but it’s much easier to replace him than eichel.
Click to expand...


Right, but Tuch isn't the only piece here; high ceiling young player in Krebs, then picks in first 2 rounds often leads to NHL caliber players. Oh and Eichel is costing you 10m a year...
 
I think, given the circumstances, it’s a fair deal. Buffalo had little leverage, they weren’t going to “win” this, but it seems he did what he could.

That Calgary leak last night is pretty hilarious, though. I’m sure Vegas saw through that quickly.
 
STLegend said:
Right, but Tuch isn't the only piece here; high ceiling young player in Krebs, then picks in first 2 rounds often leads to NHL caliber players. Oh and Eichel is costing you 10m a year...
Click to expand...
Krebs is potentially top6 winger. Tuch is good. Most likely +25 pick will be NHLer in +3 years.

Eichel is top 10 center in NHL. Right now.

Do we even need to explain why it's better Vegas than having Tuch and potential future winger and questionmark prospect when they are clearly pushing to win a Cup.

Now Vegas has fix that missing piece for Cup run.

They got exposed vs Habs last year. Their center depth is bad, well it was.
 
Ranksu said:
Krebs is potentially top6 winger. Tuch is good. Most likely +25 pick will be NHLer in +3 years.

Eichel is top 10 center in NHL. Right now.

Do we even need to explain why it's better Vegas than having Tuch and potential future winger and questionmark prospect when they are clearly pushing to win a Cup.

Now Vegas has fix that missing piece for Cup run.

They got exposed vs Habs last year. Their center depth is bad, well it was.
Click to expand...

Is that so? Hasn't played a game this season so I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Dakota Joshua is a better option at the moment, cause you know, he's actually playing hockey...

So like you said with Krebs, he's potentially a top 10 center.

By the time he comes back he will likely have missed over 120 games and will be coming off a procedure that no NHL player has ever had performed.

Do we need to explain to you the risk of him never returning to previous form?
 
One huge aspect of the trade is that Alex Tuch is from Syracuse, NY. It has to be tough to find good players willing to be a leader of the Buffalo Sabres rebuild after so many years of failure. I think they appropriately placed a big emphasis on Tuch being that hometown hero.
 
Bad trade for Vegas, but they can have him. I'm glad whether by not actually wanting him or the Sabres still having Armstrong's number blocked we avoided Eichel
 
  • Like
Reactions: Driveshaft
STLegend said:
Right, but Tuch isn't the only piece here; high ceiling young player in Krebs, then picks in first 2 rounds often leads to NHL caliber players. Oh and Eichel is costing you 10m a year...
Click to expand...
Deal could work out for Buffalo, and should give them 3-4 nhl payers, but no reasonable expectation that krebs or the picks are anywhere near eichel’s previous level.
 
If Eichel returns healthy, even to like 75% of what he would be, then Vegas probably makes out ahead in the short term. Buffalo got quite a bit in return, but it'll be up to them to develop that talent they got (besides Tuch). Personally, I don't enjoy Buffalo being this bad, so I hope they can turn things around. But Vegas can eat shit for all I care lol They have zero loyalty to their players and it's actually kind of disgusting.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Stupendous Yappi, Spear and Bye Bye Blueston
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Ad

Top Bottom