Around the NHL 2024/25

[Optimistic Cynic]

Jiricek has proven he's slow, makes too many mistakes, and belongs in the Evander Kane Club. If he doesn't turn things around with the Wild, he might be looking at the end of his career.

 

[JetsFan815]

Pretty low haul for a 6OA 2 years out of the draft who's been great in the AHL. A mid to late 1st and picks years away.

Agreed simply an awful trade for CBJ. Not sure what the rush here was, he is under team control. They could simply have waited until another better situation developed with another disgruntled prospect wanting out. There seem to be one of those every 6 months now.

 

[voyageur]

Yup. I really don't want to give up our first two years in a row, so this likely helps in that regard. Or it puts us at the top of the list due to having one.

Philly has both Colorado and Edmonton's 1st. Nashville has Vegas's. Now Columbus has Minnesota's. That's 4 contenders in the West who don't have one. Calgary has New Jersey and Florida's 1st, but their own is in Montreal's hands so they might be players. Vegas can always leverage next year's first on a top end player, after they LTIR Stone (see Hertl trade). Dallas, L.A and Vancouver are the only other contenders in the West who have some chips at this year's draft table.

I agree wholeheartedly agree about keeping the 1st. West is wide open but I don't think Chevy can make a rental trade that will guarantee the Jets get out of the 1st round. Jets are already down 2nd and 4th, on account of Toffoli and Miller, and it's hard to significantly improve the team with a 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th, especially with a lot of work to do in the offseason, contract wise. If it's a term player that's a different story maybe.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Philly has both Colorado and Edmonton's 1st. Nashville has Vegas's. Now Columbus has Minnesota's. That's 4 contenders in the West who don't have one. Calgary has New Jersey and Florida's 1st, but their own is in Montreal's hands so they might be players. Vegas can always leverage next year's first on a top end player, after they LTIR Stone (see Hertl trade). Dallas, L.A and Vancouver are the only other contenders in the West who have some chips at this year's draft table.

I agree wholeheartedly agree about keeping the 1st. West is wide open but I don't think Chevy can make a rental trade that will guarantee the Jets get out of the 1st round. Jets are already down 2nd and 4th, on account of Toffoli and Miller, and it's hard to significantly improve the team with a 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th, especially with a lot of work to do in the offseason, contract wise. If it's a term player that's a different story maybe.

We can trade prospects like Barlow.

 

[surixon]

Agreed simply an awful trade for CBJ. Not sure what the rush here was, he is under team control. They could simply have waited until another better situation developed with another disgruntled prospect wanting out. There seem to be one of those every 6 months now.

Makes me happy to have Chevy at the helm, he waits for his price.

Many of these rebuilds fail due to missing on their top 10 picks.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Philly has both Colorado and Edmonton's 1st. Nashville has Vegas's. Now Columbus has Minnesota's. That's 4 contenders in the West who don't have one. Calgary has New Jersey and Florida's 1st, but their own is in Montreal's hands so they might be players. Vegas can always leverage next year's first on a top end player, after they LTIR Stone (see Hertl trade). Dallas, L.A and Vancouver are the only other contenders in the West who have some chips at this year's draft table.

I agree wholeheartedly agree about keeping the 1st. West is wide open but I don't think Chevy can make a rental trade that will guarantee the Jets get out of the 1st round. Jets are already down 2nd and 4th, on account of Toffoli and Miller, and it's hard to significantly improve the team with a 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th, especially with a lot of work to do in the offseason, contract wise. If it's a term player that's a different story maybe.

Chevy wil make a Nino type trade again. Rentals are for suckers.

Can’t think of any rentals that have paid off in recent years.

 

[voyageur]

We can trade prospects like Barlow.

I'd be really surprised if the Jets gave up on Barlow in his d+2. Especially after keeping him around late in TC. The organization still seems high on him.

It's too bad Chaz has no value anymore.

Chibrikov might be the most valuable prospect, as he seems ready to play on a non contending team.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I'd be really surprised if the Jets gave up on Barlow in his d+2. Especially after keeping him around late in TC. The organization still seems high on him.

It's too bad Chaz has no value anymore.

Chibrikov might be the most valuable prospect, as he seems ready to play on a non contending team.

Really? U mean that’s available. as the most valuable prospects are lambert and salmon.

 

[MardyBum]

He just traded for Monahan who did nothing more at 5v5 than Names and was exposed for an extreme lack of speed in the playoffs.

Why are we assuming his ass isnt going to "solve" the 2C "problem" for the 4th time now in 7 years?

Can't develop one, trade for it!

He's going to use the 1st for a rental lol.

 

[SUX2BU]

How on earth does Jack Roslovic have 12 goals already this season?

Did someone tell him there’s no all-star game this year

Wonder if Chisholm will be looking at the waiver wire looking for his name, Wild currently carrying 7 D, now 8 maybe they keep all 8 up

The president of the Stempniak fan club wants him back

 

[Buffdog]

Agreed simply an awful trade for CBJ. Not sure what the rush here was, he is under team control. They could simply have waited until another better situation developed with another disgruntled prospect wanting out. There seem to be one of those every 6 months now.

They know something you don't know

Just like the Jets and Ehlers

 

[bustamente]

Utah HC clown pounding the VGK so far tonight 6-0 half way thru the game

 

[Buffdog]

Utah HC clown pounding the VGK so far tonight 6-0 half way thru the game

You mean a team that wins some games doesn't win every game all the time?

 

[JetsFan815]

Jiricek has proven he's slow, makes too many mistakes, and belongs in the Evander Kane Club. If he doesn't turn things around with the Wild, he might be looking at the end of his career.

Evander Kane was really good player in this league for a very long time. I would not take that return as consolation if he turns out to be a player anywhere in the range of Kane.

He's a 20 year old 6th overall pick with full team control for another 7 years and excellent results in the AHL. The Columbus GM should have done what Chevy did and had patience until he got a good prospect back or another prospect demanded their way out in another org.

Columbus had even less pressure than Chevy to make a trade right now, Jets only had Rutger's rights for 2 more years, CBJ owned his rights for 7 more!

 

[Heldig]

Minnesota wins and is tied for 1st overall. Capitals 1 point behind.

 

[voyageur]

Edmonton pumps Colorado tonight 4-1 in a back to back for both teams. Oilers are now in a playoff position after rough start, winning 3 in a row. Colorado loses another key player last night, in Josh Manson, in their loss to Dallas. Traded their backup goalie Annunen for Predators backups goalie, Scott Wedgewood.

Avs are somewhat depleted in draft capital, using their 1st to dump Johansen last year. Depth challenged with injuries. I guess the one to watch there is if they can't get into a playoff position down the stretch does Rantanen become the top player on the trade board?

 

[bustamente]

Capitals are playing some real good hockey since Ovi went down.

 

[buggs]

Solves our D issue - we can pick up chisholm on waivers

The new Comrie? The kid always ends up in Winnipeg.

 

[Cnile]

Chevy wil make a Nino type trade again. Rentals are for suckers.

Can’t think of any rentals that have paid off in recent years.

Cheveldayoff did Kevin Hayes …. That was bad.
In any case until this club does something in the playoffs it does tarnish his overall career.
Cheveldayoff is a lot better than most granted.

 

[Thechozen1]

I think it's easy enough to carry 8 d-men. Spurgeon is 35, Bogosian is 34, can they last a whole season? Jiricek is to the Wild what Salomonsson is for the Jets in terms of depth, but you would certainly believe Jiricek has the potential for more impact. Wild take their 1st off the board early. Still a lot of season and injuries to go.

I figured their 1st might be used to add some offensive help like Brock Nelson.

 

[voyageur]

I figured their 1st might be used to add some offensive help like Brock Nelson.

Wild still have a lot of good prosepcts, they could probably dangle one for him.

 

[voyageur]

Yeah, it's pretty awful. That first is going to be in the 20's and Hunt is likely a bottom pairing guy at best.

I think Waddell is cleaning house. Started with Laine. Now it's Jiricek. I was looking at Mateychuk's stats and that kid is tearing up the A this year. Maybe Hunt, who played with him in Moose Jaw, helps him into the NHL this year. Fabbro playing 20 minutes a night is a gift, that afforded a trade for futures.

Jackets have some riches in their prospect pool, as a GM it's a good position to start with, if you don't make bad trades/signings.

 

[ps241]

Jiricek deal is interesting. I read the articles from Pronman, then Russo, and Portzline.

Summary:

This wasn’t Waddell’s pick so he was able to see this see without the baggage.

Jackets didn’t see enough improvement in his skating and he wasn’t fitting in their system.

Waddell had been working on this deal for a while and no other GM wanted to do a 1 for 1 for a prospect (that’s a bit of a red flag IMO).

Guerin had been the most aggressive GM on this deal.

Jackets felt the skating hadn’t improved in 2 1/2 years. Waddell said “After a couple of years you have to forget where they were drafted”

Waddell used other GM’s to drive up the price from Hunt, 1st, 2nd and get Guerin to add a 3rd and 4th rounder too.

Multiple coaching staff’s in Columbus didn’t feel Jiricek was ready.

On to Minnesota it sounds like both the pro and amateur departments wanted Jiricek. I think they are looking at him in the context of life after Sprurgeon. Also now they feel they are stocked with young high pedigree talent in Faber, Buium, Jiricek, and goalie Wallstedt.

Time will tell how this all plays out.

My take: I don’t love that there was no org that wanted to go prospect for prospect. I think the Wild have a good enough prospect pool to blow off a draft class. f*** we did that last trade deadline and got zero in return. I would rather take a shot at a high pedigree prospect than add rentals at the deadline but that’s just me.

 

[Thechozen1]

Jiricek deal is interesting. I read the articles from Pronman, then Russo, and Portzline.

Summary:

This wasn’t Waddell’s pick so he was able to see this see without the baggage.

Jackets didn’t see enough improvement in his skating and he wasn’t fitting in their system.

Waddell had been working on this deal for a while and no other GM wanted to do a 1 for 1 for a prospect (that’s a bit of a red flag IMO).

Guerin had been the most aggressive GM on this deal.

Jackets felt the skating hadn’t improved in 2 1/2 years. Waddell said “After a couple of years you have to forget where they were drafted”

Waddell used other GM’s to drive up the price from Hunt, 1st, 2nd and get Guerin to add a 3rd and 4th rounder too.

Multiple coaching staff’s in Columbus didn’t feel Jiricek was ready.

On to Minnesota it sounds like both the pro and amateur departments wanted Jiricek. I think they are looking at him in the context of life after Sprurgeon. Also now they feel they are stocked with young high pedigree talent in Faber, Buium, Jiricek, and goalie Wallstedt.

Time will tell how this all plays out.

My take: I don’t love that there was no org that wanted to go prospect for prospect. I think the Wild have a good enough prospect pool to blow off a draft class. f*** we did that last trade deadline and got zero in return. I would rather take a shot at a high pedigree prospect than add rentals at the deadline but that’s just me.

Agreed, but the amount of those prospects available are limited compared to the rentals. The key is being in on and having the winning bid for said prospect.

 

[AlphaLackey]

I think most people with children would recognize The Witchdoctor song, not just you old farts

Fun fact, that's the first song that the singer Ross Bagdasarian (aka David Seville) perfect the high-pitched voice (he sang as normal but recorded it at half speed) that would go on to give us the voices for "Alvin and the Chipmunks"

Fun bonus fact: one of my favorite bar trivia teasers is to ask what the first Billboard #1 single by an actual in-character cartoon band was. Most people would say "Sugar, Sugar" by The Archies (as did I at first) but "The Christmas Song" by Alvin and the Chipmunks hit #1 about 11 years earlier.

And now if you'll excuse me, I hear my bones creaking.