I mean we probably aren’t going to end up adding a guy that’s better than him and would be a legit top 6er. I’d still probably keep him on the 3rd line because the depth of having him drive a 3rd line is hard to beat but he’d definitely be one of the 6 best forwards for us
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I mean we probably aren’t going to end up adding a guy that’s better than him and would be a legit top 6er. I’d still probably keep him on the 3rd line because the depth of having him drive a 3rd line is hard to beat but he’d definitely be one of the 6 best forwards for us
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It means Bedard AND Celebrini in back to back drafts!! It’s all a conspiracy to bring an original 6 team and market back to relevancy. Taylor Hall is at the center of it all.
Question - is it clear that Bergeron and Krecji are returning next year ? I haven’t been following it but - based on last year having had the air of a “last hurrah” - I was assuming they were retiring, especially Bergeron, after all the soul searching a year ago and then maybe saying he was coming back for one last campaign.
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I never really got that idea at all.
I think he wanted to stick it to Edmonton for trading him straight up for a player that wasn’t nearly as good as him, even adjusted for position. And for the shit they talked about him in Edmonton. And then there was also George Laraque coming out and saying he heard he had an alcohol problem, but quickly apologized and said he got bad info and that was not true. That was after he was already here. But I never got the idea he didn’t wanna be here at the time he was sent here.
However, he did strike me as someone who didn’t really wanna be here too far into the 19-20 season and definitely seemed like he had checked out at some point early that year.
Well yeah. I think it was clear to everyone that for 19-20 he was going to want out and we were going to move him if we sucked and boy oh boy did we f***ing suck. He was a decade into his career with one playoffs to show for it where he had to drag a mediocre at best team kicking and screaming just to make it only to get bounced in 5. I don’t blame him at all.
Tough for Hall to go back to another rebuild. He was one of the Bruins best forwards in that Florida series. He played his heart out here in that MVP season and I continue to root for him. But I guess you can’t feel too sorry for a guy making 6 million a year to play a kids game.
Guy went from MVP season to injured the next season, to traded the season after. Then goes to a god awful Buffalo team, gets traded to Boston, has a pretty good season the following season, is on the best regular season team in history the season after that..and is then traded to a god awful Chicago team like 2 months later. And all this after being stuck with the Oilers for 6 years right before they actually became good again. What a career lol
No interest in Hall, I think where he's at in his career it would be tough for him to return here, where he was The Guy, to be stuck on a 3rd line.
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We got halls best year and got out of a bad contract, win, win.. absolutely loved his run.. but zero interest now
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It’s for the best that Hall didn’t stay here at the time.
We were all talking about a double digit cap hit and for 8 years. Covid happening probably cost him quite a bit, but if he had stayed here, he almost definitely would have been extended before all that. The shutdown was several weeks after the trade deadline.
I can’t imagine an almost 32 year old Hall for 5 years remaining at $10 million per year. We probably would have been the one’s sending him to Chicago today, and maybe we’re retaining $4 million while they take the $6 million that he’s actually getting on the current deal.
This team makeup would be much different right now with Hall at the contract we were all speculating it would take to keep him back in 2019.
And it’s kind of weird just how much of a journeyman he’s become. 6 teams at 31 years old. Not that this is the most uncommon thing among fringe players, but it’s very uncommon for a player of Hall’s abilities. Not many Hart Trophy winners to play for this many teams, certainly not at that young of an age.
Jagr wound up playing for a bunch of different teams, but he was only with 3 NHL teams before he was 39 years old. Even Jose Theodore only played for 5 teams.
We were all talking about a double digit cap hit and for 8 years. Covid happening probably cost him quite a bit, but if he had stayed here, he almost definitely would have been extended before all that. The shutdown was several weeks after the trade deadline.
I can’t imagine an almost 32 year old Hall for 5 years remaining at $10 million per year. We probably would have been the one’s sending him to Chicago today, and maybe we’re retaining $4 million while they take the $6 million that he’s actually getting on the current deal.
This team makeup would be much different right now with Hall at the contract we were all speculating it would take to keep him back in 2019.
And it’s kind of weird just how much of a journeyman he’s become. 6 teams at 31 years old. Not that this is the most uncommon thing among fringe players, but it’s very uncommon for a player of Hall’s abilities. Not many Hart Trophy winners to play for this many teams, certainly not at that young of an age.
Jagr wound up playing for a bunch of different teams, but he was only with 3 NHL teams before he was 39 years old. Even Jose Theodore only played for 5 teams.
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I agree about Calgary, but are players permitted to snowboard? I'd be pretty pissed if Jack and Nico were taking selfies at Snowbird.
No Mercer, no Hamilton, no Meier, probably no Marino and then Bratt trying to get to ufa because the team would still be bottom feeders
Not to mention you are probably stuck overpaying guys past their shelf life like palmieri, Coleman
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If Shero had survived January of 2020, a deal like Hall at $80 million for 10 years would have assuredly gotten him fired by now.
Yeah, I guess you replace Dougie’s cap spot with him, plus about a million more. No Mercer (or Bahl) as he was the first in the Hall trade.
That said, Hall at $6 million isn’t really bad or at least it wasn’t as of this past season.
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Shero was the one that traded Hall, lol. He wanted to trade all the guys he acquired but ownership stepped and said they have to turn it around because they were sick of toiling around + they were probably losing profits in a team they just bought. There was rumors he wanted to trade Palmieri around that time too. I have a ton of issues with how Shero built the blue line + never traded Cory but on the offensive side/forwards, he was pretty damn good.
No Siegs either
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Ridiculous that Bergeron won the Selke. He spent enough of last season injured, either out or playing hurt, that it really needed to be someone else, simply because of his reduced capacity. It’s kind of a joke how they give some of this out based on sentiment rather than performance. Sure he’s Selke worthy (and one of the greatest 2 way players of the past 20 years) but past his prime and others were more effective last season.
I'm gonna guess that'd be under prohibited activities. I'm reminded of Vladimir Malakhov being spotted at a ski resort (with his family) during the 2000 All Star break. Up to that point, he had been rehabbing a knee injury and Montreal suspended him.
Thankfully we might that that ski trip to thank for the 2000 Cup. Malakhov became hated in Montreal and they didn't wait until the trade deadline to deal him. Otherwise they might have held onto him longer and Philadelphia might have outbid us after they missed out on Ray Bourque.
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Good thing he forced Buffalo to trade him to Boston, I’d he didn’t he would have missed out on his magical 2 seasons plus 16 GP as a Bruin.
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Everyone knew Bergeron was winning.
He played in 78 games and his defensive metrics were amazing, he actually very much deserved it.
Edit: I will say, I checked and I was surprised by his minutes. So yeah, he isn’t playing as much as some of the other nominees.
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2020-21 (Barkov won)
2019-20 (Couturier won)
2018-19 (O’Reilly won)
Just to make clear which players are under the piles
2021-22 (Bergeron won)
2020-21 (Barkov won)
2019-20 (Couturier won)
2018-19 (O’Reilly won)
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The “Summer of Shero” never actually made any sense because this team was completely f***ed if we were successful.
If we somehow stumbled to playoffs and tried to build off that roster with the meager assets we had left, while keeping Palms, Coleman, etc, we would be (at best) Vancouver.
Likely worse because they have a better goalie and young defensive star, while we would be pretending Ty Smith was something because we had nothing else.
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He did pick Buffalo and said it was partly
because Krueger was his favorite coach in Edmonton.
That really confirmed for me that he’s basically an idiot. I had my suspicions before…
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Someone has to play center for them. It’s pretty hilarious to see Zacha penciled in as a potential 1C lol.
Their cap situation is pretty dire, they have 4.5m in bonus overages from last season.
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But everybody liked Freddy’s brother!
Every offseason his name always came up, among both the pundits and fans.
“Edmonton was respectable under Ralph Krueger in the lockout shortened season, but they wouldn’t even let him come back and hired Eakins instead!”
“Yeah but did you see Team Europe at the World Cup of hockey? They had less talent than every other team there, but looked respectable! It’s not like 2010 playoff Halak made an appearance!”
“He’s such a good coach, he even runs a premier league team! He knows a lot about soccer too! He’s the Deion Sanders/Bo Jackson of coaches!”
Okay, I made up the Deion/Bo part. I never did see anyone else say that, but you would think that’s what he was with all the hype for those few off seasons between Team Europe and his Sabres hiring.
And seriously, I can’t get over how much he actually does look like Freddy. You just gotta put the fedora on him and he’s a dead ringer. If only he survived long enough to coach the stadium series game, maybe he would have worn one.
Didn't he also say Hynes was the best coach he'd had at one point?
Although now that I think about his coaches before were Renney, Krueger, Eakins, Nelson (after Eakins was fired), and Bleed's long time buddy McLellan, so he may have actually been right.
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