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There is some element of acceleration there though. You only have so much ramp to get up to top speed. So you have to accelerate quickly for the runway. I think the value is lost in that it is a one time thing. If Hanafin hit 23.7 once because he ate his wheaties, had the wind behind him and had a ton of ramp, but is usually at 22, but makar only hit 23.4 but is always at 23 or more,Makar's speed is more valuable.
Basically nobody is going to be hitting these 20+ bursts without a longer runway. That speed isn't achieved with just stops and starts, it's the crossovers after they've already started moving that allows them to move up ice while picking up speed. These bursts will basically all be on a desperate backcheck or a rush starting from their own half of the center line.
 
Last night was far from perfect and I think there are several lessons for the NHL and ESPN to take away from it. But before I get into those, I want to praise them for what was a night of hockey that I very much enjoyed. I watched about 5 hours of completely uninterrupted hockey and unlike most nights where I'm double, triple, or quad boxing there were zero 5+ minute windows where all the games were at intermission. I want more of these nights in my life and don't want these lessons/critiques to come off as complaints. It was a pilot/test run and perfection shouldn't have been assumed.

1: Schedule 8 East vs East games and 8 West vs West games and make as many of them division matchups as possible.. 8 of the 16 games featured a team from the East playing a team from the West and 6 of those 8 games saw an Eastern team playing a team in the Mountain or Pacific time zone. The NHL should do a few of these nights a year and work to base the rest of the season's schedule around these nights. I realize that scheduling is a huge pain in the ass, but I think it is feasible to go all East vs East and West vs West if you build your schedule around 3-5 of these nights each year.

2: Air a double header on the main ESPN channel instead of a triple header. Forcing the triple header by starting game 1 at 6pm Eastern and the last game at 11pm Eastern is a bit much. Only a handful of true psychos want (and are able) to watch 7+ hours of hockey on a Tuesday. Drop the puck on game 1 around 6:30 pm eastern time and drop the puck on game 16 around 10:00 eastern time. That allows games to start every 15 minutes until game 16 has started and gets you out of the worst of the time slots.

3: Way less of the studio on the Frozen Frenzy broadcast. I don't need to check in with the intermission panel from the game that is on the main ESPN channel. The entire point of this broadcast is to avoid intermissions. Stop cutting to them. I also rarely need to see Bucci and Weekes. I should rarely be watching the studio. 90% or more of this broadcast should be a game on full screen, a double box, a triple box, or a quad box. The play-by-play of that game(s) can be turned way down to allow Bucci and Weekes to talk over it (either about that game, scores around the league, or another game), but I should be watching hockey being played almost the entire time.

NFL RedZone perfected this. They rarely cut to a studio shot of Scott Hanson with scores/videos in the background. The scores/videos are full screen on your TV with Hanson talking over it. There were way too many times where there were multiple games in play that would have allowed a live look in but we were instead just watching Bucci/Weekes talk about hockey while they keeping an eye on the games we couldn't see.

Again, I genuinely had a great night watching hockey last night. I really hope they bring back the frozen frenzy broadcast a few more times this year on busy days/nights (even if the starts on staggered). And even if they don't, I really hope that they build several nights like this into next year's schedule. I had my doubts about whether hockey could lend itself to a channel like this since it is so much more of a flow game with way less clear buildup to a scoring play than football is. That doubt was erased last night. I don't think it can ever be quite as perfect as RedZone is, but I think it can be a damn good product.

Finally, I don't think that we have to have all 32 teams playing to do a Frozen Frenzy broadcast. And I don't think we have to have starts every 15 minutes to do it. I think that you could do this kind of broadcast every Tuesday or Thursday where there are 10+ games. Tomorrow there are 5 games starting at 7, 2 games starting at 7:30 , 1 game at 8, and 2 games at 9 (all times Eastern). Convince just 1 of those 5 home teams starting at 7pm to delay their start by 15 minutes and suddenly you should have a 3 hour window with at least 1 game not at intermission. This could be a weekly broadcast (albeit not quite as well laid out as last night) on ESPN+.
 
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Basically nobody is going to be hitting these 20+ bursts without a longer runway. That speed isn't achieved with just stops and starts, it's the crossovers after they've already started moving that allows them to move up ice while picking up speed. These bursts will basically all be on a desperate backcheck or a rush starting from their own half of the center line.
It’s like 40 times for football players. It’s not the most relevant metric for usable speed, but does generally correlate with it. Just like corsi does with possession. So this doesn’t tell clubs that they should deal for hanifan bc this shows he is fast, but it does signal that he is fast and suggests deeper dive to see how that translates to usable skill.
 
I am not a fan of staggered times. If the game gets pushed to a later start, count me out or passed out.
 
Well the Senators having Pinto unsigned seems to be resolved for now at least...


side note: How are people imbedding tweets these days so it is not just a link?
I am not sure what your side note means, are you saying I have to go in and change my DOS setting or something?

Well the Senators having Pinto unsigned seems to be resolved for now at least...


side note: How are people imbedding tweets these days so it is not just a link?
I am guessing they knew they didn't need the cap space for Pinto when they signed Vlad
 
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I am guessing they knew they didn't need the cap space for Pinto when they signed Vlad
Agreed. Friedman's article says that the investigation began in the summer. Sounds like a pretty safe bet that the Sens knew he was going to be tagged with a lengthy suspension and reacted.

Credit where it is due in Ottawa. Taking a cap hit on him during a half season suspension would have sucked and they have taken the media heat for these last few months without throwing the player under the bus. Now they have half a season to figure out how to fit him back into the lineup on a half-season deal. They aren't using LTIR right now and could bank cap space for half a season and there is always a chance that an j=injury just naturally creates space.
 
Agreed. Friedman's article says that the investigation began in the summer. Sounds like a pretty safe bet that the Sens knew he was going to be tagged with a lengthy suspension and reacted.

Credit where it is due in Ottawa. Taking a cap hit on him during a half season suspension would have sucked and they have taken the media heat for these last few months without throwing the player under the bus. Now they have half a season to figure out how to fit him back into the lineup on a half-season deal. They aren't using LTIR right now and could bank cap space for half a season and there is always a chance that an j=injury just naturally creates space.

Weird. The article said he didn't bet on the NHL, which is a clear cut violation. I don't think it is against the rules to bet on another sport or a different league. So he must have done something wrong in how he bet. But if he did anything illegal, then there should have been legal consequences. For a 41 game suspension, it had to be kinda bad. The whole thing is a bit weird. But the Sens actions do make sense in this light.

Edit: The NHL statement said he did not bet on NHL games, or at least they have no evidence of it. It's been tweeted by insiders that a) he did not bet on hockey at all and b) betting on other sports is not disallowed by the CBA. So what the heck did he do to get suspended?
 
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Weird. The article said he didn't bet on the NHL, which is a clear cut violation. I don't think it is against the rules to bet on another sport or a different league. So he must have done something wrong in how he bet. But if he did anything illegal, then there should have been legal consequences. For a 41 game suspension, it had to be kinda bad. The whole thing is a bit weird. But the Sens actions do make sense in this light.

Edit: The NHL statement said he did not bet on NHL games, or at least they have no evidence of it. It's been tweeted by insiders that a) he did not bet on hockey at all and b) betting on other sports is not disallowed by the CBA. So what the heck did he do to get suspended?
The only thing I can think of that it could potentially be he was in a fantasy league with money on the line. It’s not directly betting on games, but it’s something that the league wouldn’t want players participating in.
 
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Agreed. Friedman's article says that the investigation began in the summer. Sounds like a pretty safe bet that the Sens knew he was going to be tagged with a lengthy suspension and reacted.

Credit where it is due in Ottawa. Taking a cap hit on him during a half season suspension would have sucked and they have taken the media heat for these last few months without throwing the player under the bus. Now they have half a season to figure out how to fit him back into the lineup on a half-season deal. They aren't using LTIR right now and could bank cap space for half a season and there is always a chance that an j=injury just naturally creates space.
One of the insiders also had tweeted that he also doesn't qualify for a December deadline on resigning RFAs so Ottawa can take any amount of time they want to on the deciding what to do with the contract.

The suspension is apparently retroactive to the start of the season so he has 35 games left to sit.
 
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I think this is going to become a huge issue in the next CBA. The Sens have a f***ing gambling ad on the side of their helmet. There's no way players should be allowed to bet on the NHL, but f*** the NHL for trying to stop players from gambling on anything else while choking down the chicken (and profiting from it) of the gambling sites.
 
I think this is going to become a huge issue in the next CBA. The Sens have a f***ing gambling ad on the side of their helmet. There's no way players should be allowed to bet on the NHL, but f*** the NHL for trying to stop players from gambling on anything else while choking down the chicken (and profiting from it) of the gambling sites.
To be clear, NHL players are allowed to bet on things besides hockey. The NHL is not sharing what Pinto did to earn this suspension.

As usual, the NHL seems to be fully botching the PR on this one. We shouldn't be playing a guessing game about what a guy did to warrant a 41 game suspension.
 
To be clear, NHL players are allowed to bet on things besides hockey. The NHL is not sharing what Pinto did to earn this suspension.

As usual, the NHL seems to be fully botching the PR on this one. We shouldn't be playing a guessing game about what a guy did to warrant a 41 game suspension.

Sometimes maybe it's not our f***ing business if it didn't happen on the ice?
 
Someone on the Ottawa site guessed that maybe he gave inside NHL (or team) information to someone who was placing bets. But that’s just one of many guesses at this point.
 
Sometimes maybe it's not our f***ing business if it didn't happen on the ice?
Then why exactly would it merit a suspension?

The entire point of prohibiting players from gambling on the sport is to prevent the impression that games are rigged. Maintaining public faith in the integrity of your sport is the entire basis of having harsh suspensions for gambling related activity. Transparency is the entire point of swiftly and harshly punishing people who put the integrity of the sport in question.

This is one of the 5 longest suspensions in the league's history. It is the longest specific-game suspension in the league's history. And it is only justified under the basis of protecting the league's public image. Going all cloak and dagger about it makes no sense.
 
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I dunno, why did they suspend Voynov?
Because he was was charged (and subsequently convicted) of punching, kicking, choking, and pushing his wife into a TV screen hard enough to cause multiple injuries that were observed by the reporting officers. His conduct was serious enough that he got 90 days of jail and got deported as a 1st time offender with the money to hire a good lawyer.

Did you forget or are you one of those "your wife is your property so it's no one's business if I put her into the hospital" pieces of shit?
 
I think this is going to become a huge issue in the next CBA. The Sens have a f***ing gambling ad on the side of their helmet. There's no way players should be allowed to bet on the NHL, but f*** the NHL for trying to stop players from gambling on anything else while choking down the chicken (and profiting from it) of the gambling sites.
You beat me to saying it. There's a larger part of sports being more entwined with sports betting behind all this that will need addressed not only by the NHL, but all leagues really.



Edit: Also thanks to @Linkens Mastery on the twitter answer earlier!

Edit 2: I found a tweet about the suspension being retroactive to game 1 of the season
 
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You beat me to saying it. There's a larger part of sports being more entwined with sports betting behind all this that will need addressed not only by the NHL, but all leagues really.



Edit: Also thanks to @Linkens Mastery on the twitter answer earlier!

No problem. I only really figured it out because mobile X still uses "twitter . com" when you copy links.
 
Because he was was charged (and subsequently convicted) of punching, kicking, choking, and pushing his wife into a TV screen hard enough to cause multiple injuries that were observed by the reporting officers. His conduct was serious enough that he got 90 days of jail and got deported as a 1st time offender with the money to hire a good lawyer.

Did you forget or are you one of those "your wife is your property so it's no one's business if I put her into the hospital" pieces of shit?

You're kind of acting like just because you watch a guy play a sport that you own him and have the right to know everything about his life and what's going on with him, right?

The only thing we have a right to know is what happens on the ice. He was suspended because he broke rules. Voynov was suspended because he broke rules, even though it did not happen on the ice.
 
You beat me to saying it. There's a larger part of sports being more entwined with sports betting behind all this that will need addressed not only by the NHL, but all leagues really.



Edit: Also thanks to @Linkens Mastery on the twitter answer earlier!

Edit 2: I found a tweet about the suspension being retroactive to game 1 of the season


Maybe he was suspended because when he bet on the Senators he did not use Bet99, the official sponsor of The Ottawa Senators. When the Senators players bet on the NHL, Bet99 is the only betting site they trust.
 
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