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Stealth JD said:
The Pacific division is hot garbage. Folks thought the Central was bad and the PAC might send five teams to the post-season. They might not deserve three teams the way they’re all playing. Edmonton just lost McDavid for a couple weeks, and they’re in absolute no danger of being buried in the standings despite their horrid start.
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To say this like they aren't already... the Golden Knights are really going to run away with the division
 
mk80 said:
To say this like they aren't already... the Golden Knights are really going to run away with the division
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At this point I just hope they don’t repeat.

They have a very good chance to. I hate them but that is such a good roster, they have everything you need in the playoffs.
 
BlueDream said:
At this point I just hope they don’t repeat.

They have a very good chance to. I hate them but that is such a good roster, they have everything you need in the playoffs.
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They are a rightful favorite for a good amount of reasons
 
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Xerloris said:
New shit guys.

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NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Home

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics, including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot and save location, and zone time for National Hockey League players and teams.
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NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Goalies

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for goalies including shot and save location, goal support and games above .900 save percentage.
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Website was god awful when I tried to use it today, but it's awesome they're finally giving this info away for free
 
Haven't looked at what data they're making available, but if it's essentially everything they're tracking that should lead to some huge improvements for public expected goal models.
 
Stealth JD said:
The Pacific division is hot garbage. Folks thought the Central was bad and the PAC might send five teams to the post-season. They might not deserve three teams the way they’re all playing. Edmonton just lost McDavid for a couple weeks, and they’re in absolute no danger of being buried in the standings despite their horrid start.
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I'm not changing my opinion of Edmonton as a 100+ point team based on 5 games, especially when they have gotten just 1 quality start from their 2 goalies. I'm not at all a fan of a Campbell/Skinner tandem, but they will absolutely be better than the .868 they have currently given the Oilers. I'm not going to worry about them missing the playoffs unless they still look this bad in December.

The Canucks have looked liked a playoff team when I've watched them this year and they played at a 100 point pace after the coaching change last year. I'm a huge Demko fan and DeSmith is a competent backup. I think they have a pretty good chance at being a 95+ point team.

I like the Kings skater group a lot, but like last year their big question mark is in net. I could see their tandem costing them a playoff spot, but I also wouldn't be at all surprised if if can be 'good enough' or for them to go out and acquire another goalie mid-season if they aren't. They haven't dug themselves a hole yet and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are a 100 point team again.

Calgary appears to be underachieving on the scoresheet despite carrying a lot of the play again. I still have at least as much faith in them as I do Nashville though. I think they have more room to improve in net (at some point they will get Wolf onto the NHL roster) and I won't be at all surprised to see them beat out the 4th team in the Central for a Wild Card Spot.

Vegas is great. Defending Cup champs and they are 6-0 with a +14 goal differential.

I think we are way, way, way too early to assume that these 5 teams can't all make the playoffs and that two of STL, NSH, ARI, and MIN will finish ahead of 1 of these teams. Especially if San Jose, Anaheim, and Seattle all remain as bad as they look so far and allow these teams to pile up some easy points when they play their 'extra' games against them. As of now, none of the Oilers, Kings, Canucks, and Flames have played any games against the 3 teams sitting at the bottom of the division.
 
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I get that they’re doing stacked start times tonight but the fact that the Flyers game is starting at 11 pm locally in Philadelphia is hilarious. I do not think I’ve ever seen that before, especially on a Tuesday.
 
Did Ovechkin really have 14 shots tonight? Trying to silence the naysayers after he went 2 straight games shotless, I suppose.
 
BlueDream said:
I get that they’re doing stacked start times tonight but the fact that the Flyers game is starting at 11 pm locally in Philadelphia is hilarious. I do not think I’ve ever seen that before, especially on a Tuesday.
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For a minute I read that and thought the Flyers were the home team, then I checked and saw it's in Vegas lol. Still terrible for east coast Flyers fans, but at least not as bad as I thought first
 
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mk80 said:
For a minute I read that and thought the Flyers were the home team, then I checked and saw it's in Vegas lol. Still terrible for east coast Flyers fans, but at least not as bad as I thought first
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league probably figured they were doing flyers fans a favor by making game in vegas start after they went to bed. what is expected score, 6-1?
 
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Interesting. I wouldn’t have been able to predict this list with any semblance of accuracy.

That said, I’m curious how “sustained skating speed” is determined. It’d also be interesting to see a list with a wider net as this only captures d-men playing 21+ min/night.

I also wonder just how valuable this info is. D-men don’t rush the puck at full speed a ton so while having an extra gear would sure be a benefit, I don’t see it as big of a difference maker as it would be for a forward. When it comes to skating and d-men, I’m more interested in how good they are skating backwards, agility, lateral mobility etc. than top speed going forward.
 
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STL fan in MN said:
Interesting. I wouldn’t have been able to predict this list with any semblance of accuracy.

That said, I’m curious how “sustained skating speed” is determined. It’d also be interesting to see a list with a wider net as this only captures d-men playing 21+ min/night.

I also wonder just how valuable this info is. D-men don’t rush the puck at full speed a ton so while having an extra gear would sure be a benefit, I don’t see it as big of a difference maker as it would be for a forward. When it comes to skating and d-men, I’m more interested in how good they are skating backwards, agility, lateral mobility etc. than top speed going forward.
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I don't think it's particularly valuable, I think JFresh just wanted to play around with the edge data yesterday
 
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STL fan in MN said:
Interesting. I wouldn’t have been able to predict this list with any semblance of accuracy.

That said, I’m curious how “sustained skating speed” is determined. It’d also be interesting to see a list with a wider net as this only captures d-men playing 21+ min/night.

I also wonder just how valuable this info is. D-men don’t rush the puck at full speed a ton so while having an extra gear would sure be a benefit, I don’t see it as big of a difference maker as it would be for a forward. When it comes to skating and d-men, I’m more interested in how good they are skating backwards, agility, lateral mobility etc. than top speed going forward.
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I think a defenseman with excellent top end speed would be able to hold the blue line in the offensive zone in more situations knowing they can get back
 
Thallis said:
Top end skating speed is very different from acceleration, which would be the preferred asset if you want your D to hold the blue line and surf on a zone entry.
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There is some element of acceleration there though. You only have so much ramp to get up to top speed. So you have to accelerate quickly for the runway. I think the value is lost in that it is a one time thing. If Hanafin hit 23.7 once because he ate his wheaties, had the wind behind him and had a ton of ramp, but is usually at 22, but makar only hit 23.4 but is always at 23 or more,Makar's speed is more valuable.
 
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