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"character flaw" for sure...how unprofessional to not even take calls. That is just absurd

If you had told them before that you didn't want to play for the organization and obviously did a 180 since the draft, it is reasonable to expect the organization to reach out to possible convince you to rethink that position.

Good on Briere for getting good pieces back for an asset who didn't want to be there.
 
so Toronto is gonna do:

11.5 for Nylander
13.25 for Matthews
10.9 for Marner
11.0 for Tavares

That's nearly 47M for four guys, and even with a rising cap, that leaves like 40M for 19 guys... Reilly also makes 7.5 so it's really like 32M for 18 guys.

Good luck.
When does Tavares expire? Year or two? He’ll probably re-sign for half his current rate.

Would y’all have traded Simishev or 2024 1st (top 5 protected) for Cutter Gauthier?
Simashev? No. The 1st? Make that Top10 and Yes.
 
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I don’t want any Coyotes at all-star. No need to risk a groin injury from some silly event.
 
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I really want to know what happened. Apparently Gauthier just decided he didn't want to sign in Philadelphia just a couple months after the draft. Is he planning to go the UFA route regardless and Anaheim believe they can make him change his mind?
One side is talking. And what that side is saying makes zero sense and isn’t particularly believable. Add in the fact that they happen to be the Flyers, and zero benefit of the doubt should be given.

The kid didn’t drag this into the media, the Flyers did. The kid apparently wanted a trade but managed to keep it quiet and didn’t attempt to leverage the Flyers in the media. Once the trade was completed, the Flyers went into full blown PR crisis management and had their President, their GM, their coach, and all kinds of alumni all giving different quotes to different media outlets that all drag the kid through the mud. Feels like they’re “getting out in front of” something to me.

Gauthier remaining silent throughout gets my spidey senses tingling in the direction of the Flyers ending up the real villains, here. Generally these disgruntled, entitled brats can’t help themselves and they and/or their team end up spouting off and punching back. His camp kept this under wraps and have been sitting back and taking the abuse. In my mind, that says they deserve a bit more of the benefit of the doubt.

The smear campaign is fishy. It’s pretty easy to trade a kid, say you love Drysdale, have always loved Drysdale, never thought you’d ever have a chance to get Drysdale and say you’re proud of your team for what they’ve done this season and you wanted to reward them with a kid who can help their blueline and power play right now today, and that cost you a college kid who’s on a longer timeline and you’re okay with that. Good luck Gauthier. We finally got our guy. Drysdale, Drysdale, Drysdale.

Why are the flyers trying so hard? Why is their story so outlandish? Why is Gauthier so quiet? I’m not about to just accept whatever the first narrative is that comes out.
 
One side is talking. And what that side is saying makes zero sense and isn’t particularly believable. Add in the fact that they happen to be the Flyers, and zero benefit of the doubt should be given.

The kid didn’t drag this into the media, the Flyers did. The kid apparently wanted a trade but managed to keep it quiet and didn’t attempt to leverage the Flyers in the media. Once the trade was completed, the Flyers went into full blown PR crisis management and had their President, their GM, their coach, and all kinds of alumni all giving different quotes to different media outlets that all drag the kid through the mud. Feels like they’re “getting out in front of” something to me.

Gauthier remaining silent throughout gets my spidey senses tingling in the direction of the Flyers ending up the real villains, here. Generally these disgruntled, entitled brats can’t help themselves and they and/or their team end up spouting off and punching back. His camp kept this under wraps and have been sitting back and taking the abuse. In my mind, that says they deserve a bit more of the benefit of the doubt.

The smear campaign is fishy. It’s pretty easy to trade a kid, say you love Drysdale, have always loved Drysdale, never thought you’d ever have a chance to get Drysdale and say you’re proud of your team for what they’ve done this season and you wanted to reward them with a kid who can help their blueline and power play right now today, and that cost you a college kid who’s on a longer timeline and you’re okay with that. Good luck Gauthier. We finally got our guy. Drysdale, Drysdale, Drysdale.

Why are the flyers trying so hard? Why is their story so outlandish? Why is Gauthier so quiet? I’m not about to just accept whatever the first narrative is that comes out.
Exactly. It's all so strange. Maybe Gauthier told the Flyers he wanted to go the UFA route regardless of which team holds his rights at the time, and the Flyers are going out of their way to tell their story about how he doesn't want to play for THEM. Maybe the unanswered calls are a way to decline giving an answer about which teams he might sign with? I don't know, but if that's the case, philly front office has a reason to get out in front of it, and Gauthier's camp doesn't have much to say and would rather just see it blow over.
 
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Zegras, we totally hate him. An absolute moron.

Also, GMBA, go get him now, he is young and absolutely perfect for us.

:D

(sorry this is the first time in months that I have been able to get through the data protection disclaimer on this site)
 
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I think this is very possible.

You're the #5OA pick and the team that drafted you wants to stall off signing you right away??

If I were Gautier I'd be put off.
Also lost is the context of HOW they managed this situation. Obviously it was in such a way that he viewed as unforgivable. Is he too sensitive or are they blundering idiots? My money is on 50/50. I’m not about to join the lynch mob trying to assassinate the character of a 19 year old kid who’s made no comments I’m aware of. Philadelphia Flyers brass have not been terribly reliable over the years. They’ve earned skepticism. Not sure why everyone bought what they were selling so easily.

Zegras, we totally hate him. An absolute moron.

Also, GMBA, go get him now, he is young and absolutely perfect for us.

:D

(sorry this is the first time in months that I have been able to get through the data protection disclaimer on this site)
I feel like they’re going to trade him for some monster defenseman that’s going to ruin our lives for years. Jiricek or Edvinsson or someone like that.
 
Friedman's take....

He’s like “Cutter wouldn’t talk to them at the WJC which is so strange. Of course, it’s perfectly normal for prospects to do this at the WJC. But when Cutter did it, that’s when Philly knew it was over” - looooool

He’s also like, “Wheeler and Fox were total stand up guys that explained themselves and everyone understood and it was all well and good” hahahahaha HUH?!?!? I’m still waiting on that Wheeler explanation that makes everything okay. Hilarious.
 
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An alternative theory: Philly penny pinching and piss poor communication blew this whole thing:

Very Yotes move. But if this is the case I see why he would be upset. I also am glad his camp didn't make a stink about it and worked on it civilly.

I still think he is entitled to thinking him and his agent knew what was best for his and the organizations next steps though. I wonder if it will impact the views of NCAA kids now too. Hope Cooley was never thinking of doing something similar.

I feel like they’re going to trade him for some monster defenseman that’s going to ruin our lives for years. Jiricek or Edvinsson or someone like that.
ANA caught wind of what BA is building and decided to tail lol.

But please, please, please don't let them add a player like this. They are building a powerhouse
 
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Also lost is the context of HOW they managed this situation. Obviously it was in such a way that he viewed as unforgivable. Is he too sensitive or are they blundering idiots? My money is on 50/50. I’m not about to join the lynch mob trying to assassinate the character of a 19 year old kid who’s made no comments I’m aware of. Philadelphia Flyers brass have not been terribly reliable over the years. They’ve earned skepticism. Not sure why everyone bought what they were selling so easily.


I feel like they’re going to trade him for some monster defenseman that’s going to ruin our lives for years. Jiricek or Edvinsson or someone like that.
What is wrong with Philly? I haven't heard anything.
 
Gauthier has charaxter red flags that I wouldn't risk. Entitlement hurts the whole team.
And Philly has Michkov, who seems to have "character flaws" waiting. What are the odds we see the same thing from him. Michkov wants to come over and asks for a contract at the end of the year after KHL season, to burn a contract year and get some bonus money, but Philly says no.
 
This is exactly what Wheeler did to us. Said no thank you and went to a different team. As mush as I hate to say it he turned into a great player.
 

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