Around the NHL 11 - 2023/24

[BobTheSolarsystem]

since the cap-era started (2005) there's been 2 vezina winners that have won the cup for a total of 3x. those 2 goalies being vas & thomas, excluding 43-year old hasek who got usurped by osgood during those POs. it def helps but not absolutely necessary. esp. when goaltending in the POs can be a lot about who gets hot (or cold) at the right time.

I'm not talking winners - I'm talking nominee vezina level... and it's more about Stanley cup finals than the cup itself because that last series is a crapshoot

So fleury, giguere, quick, etc... this is what k consider vezina goalies

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

I think Rittich using Helles number is a real tribute. I think a Verona goalie really raises the level of goaltending in an organization. Other goalies learning from the master..

Our goalie coach is probably one of the more important people in the organization. Only coach spared from the purge.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

https://thehockeynews.com/news/tough-goalie-decisions-ahead-for-the-devils-leafs-and-oilers

 

[jetsv2]

I think Rittich using Helles number is a real tribute. I think a Verona goalie really raises the level of goaltending in an organization. Other goalies learning from the master..

Our goalie coach is probably one of the more important people in the organization. Only coach spared from the purge.

Helly is very close with Wade. As long as Helly is the Jets starter Wade's job is safe.

 

[JetsFan815]

No defense being played in this Leafs-Penguins game.

 

[snowkiddin]

No defense being played in this Leafs-Penguins game.

Well, it is the Leafs and the Penguins

 

[kanadalainen]

End of the second, pens score with 27 seconds left, 32 shots on

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

No defense being played in this Leafs-Penguins game.

Pens needed Helle the most but had no assets

 

[tbcwpg]

Pens needed Helle the most but had no assets

Lots of teams who needed him more than the Pens.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Lots of teams who needed him more than the Pens.

Buffalo's gonna be going from the blue side to the red side after tonight.

Remember after Comrie played four games in Buffalo and all the talk was about how we dropped the ball by letting him go?

 

[bustamente]

Leaf's team is way to top heavy if they aren't scoring they ain't winning

 

[surixon]

Buffalo's gonna be going from the blue side to the red side after tonight.

Remember after Comrie played four games in Buffalo and all the talk was about how we dropped the ball by letting him go?

Buffalo only manages 11 shots tonight. Some rebuilds just never end.

 

[10Ducky10]

Buffalo's gonna be going from the blue side to the red side after tonight.

Remember after Comrie played four games in Buffalo and all the talk was about how we dropped the ball by letting him go?

Comrie would look a lot better behind the Jets than the Sabres but ya, they need a goalie badly and Levi should be in Rochester.
He let in 3 goals in 17 shots tonight in relief.

They have close to 8m in capspace and there goalies make 1.75m, 925k, 837.5k. Their GM needs to make a move for Saros or Gibson or somebody. They are missing a lot of good years by some pretty good players.

I'd clean house over the summer if it were me. GM and coaches are not very good. Horrible owner though.

 

[bustamente]

Buffalo only manages 11 shots tonight. Some rebuilds just never end.

Perennial losers, that team needs a guy like Schmidt to keep them loose and laughing while they lose

 

[10Ducky10]

Perennial losers, that team needs a guy like Schmidt to keep them loose and laughing while they lose

Schmidt for Mitts, c'mon Chevy.

 

[Channelcat]

Why can't the Leafs beat bad teams?

 

[bustamente]

5K is a joke

 

[Channelcat]

5K is a joke

Elon is right about unions

 

[Maukkis]

Buffalo is another team that needs to admit that a three-goalie system is bound to fail. Send Comrie down, let Luukkonen play as the starter (he's the only one winning them games right now), and run with what you have. They chose to give their young goalies a chance, so it blows my mind that they still hang on to Comrie.

I had them going to the playoffs. Christ.

 

[Jet]

Buffalo only manages 11 shots tonight. Some rebuilds just never end.

A perfect illustration that a good team requires more than skill.

The right types of players, coaching, leadership and culture are all extremely important.

Why can't the Leafs beat bad teams?

Superiority complex.

If you think you are better than your opponent you aren't going to take them seriously.

 

[kylbaz]

5K is a joke

And Scheif misses whole playoffs on a bodycheck.

On another note,
Vancouver coming back to reality.

 

[The Blue Baron]

5K is a joke

Yet another gross display of NHL “rules” enforcement. I guess because he is the captain of the Rangers he gets all the big breaks. f*** this league.

 

[surixon]

A perfect illustration that a good team requires more than skill.

The right types of players, coaching, leadership and culture are all extremely important.


Superiority complex.

If you think you are better than your opponent you aren't going to take them seriously.

Yeah they seem to just be holding young players and prospects. They have a great pool that they should now be utilizing to bring in key support pieces and a goalie to help their very talented young core. That is what Jersey did, they brought in good players like Marino, Hamilton etc to help their young players out. Buffalo will soon be paying big dollars to their young guys they need to start winning.

 

[Whileee]

Yeah they seem to just be holding young players and prospects. They have a great pool that they should now be utilizing to bring in key support pieces and a goalie to help their very talented young core. That is what Jersey did, they brought in good players like Marino, Hamilton etc to help their young players out. Buffalo will soon be paying big dollars to their young guys they need to start winning.

There are plenty of cautionary tales from franchises that tanked for a full rebuild and still haven't recovered. The notion that you can just torch a team and burn it to the ground and then build it around a few high picks ignores the long-term impact of a losing culture, and the uncertainty of trying to time a rebuild around a few top players.

 

[AlphaLackey]

While I genuinely do not think that Parros *actually does have* a giant casino-style Big 6 wheel upon which he spins up each infraction at random, if his punishments are completely indistinguishable from a spin of a wheel, does it really matter?