Around the NHL 10 - 2022/23

[kanadalainen]

Time to start moving Helle around in a Hansom cab.

These new-fangled horseless carriages can make folks do crazy things. Like sign with the Blue Jackets.

I seen one of them fangled horseless carriages oncet. Playing music inside and all get out. Light up yer seegar too.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Time to start moving Helle around in a Hansom cab.

Apparently this is a true story: one night at a production of one of his works, WS Gilbert was mistaken for an attendant by an opera goer, who asked "can you call me a cab?"

"Okay, you're a four-wheeler."

"I beg your pardon?"

"Well, you asked me to call you a cab, and I certainly can't call you 'hansom'"

.... and to balance things off with some wit a little more recent:

 

[Thechozen1]

Minnesota, Seattle, LA, maybe Edmonton again

Jets wouldn’t beat Minnesota.

 

[Jet]

Canucks winning over Dallas
Typically March surge for Vancouver to reduce their chances on the Bedard sweepstakes

Warms my heart

 

[ERYX]

Jets wouldn’t beat Minnesota.

I don't think regular season results predict the playoffs much.

Didn't the Wild completely own the Jets during the regular season in 17/18 when we beat them in the first round?

Likewise I think Edmonton dominated us during the regular season of the COVID/Canada Division year yet we smoked them in the playoffs.

That said I'm not very encouraged by Jets play of late and staggering into the playoffs on the strength of good early season only is not great.

 

[tbcwpg]

I don't think regular season results predict the playoffs much.

Didn't the Wild completely own the Jets during the regular season in 17/18 when we beat them in the first round?

Likewise I think Edmonton dominated us during the regular season of the COVID/Canada Division year yet we smoked them in the playoffs.

That said I'm not very encouraged by Jets play of late and staggering into the playoffs on the strength of good early season only is not great.

Smoked Edmonton by taking advantage of shaky goaltending and getting metrically dominated in 4 games but getting saved by Hellebuyck, yes.

 

[DRW204]

Smoked Edmonton by taking advantage of shaky goaltending and getting metrically dominated in 4 games but getting saved by Hellebuyck, yes.

that'll go as probably the "closest sweep" in history. 4 games with 3 OTs. only thing closer would be 4 games going to 4 OTs lol.

 

[ps241]

Smoked Edmonton by taking advantage of shaky goaltending and getting metrically dominated in 4 games but getting saved by Hellebuyck, yes.

How many nights does Edmonton get saved by McDavid. Without him they don’t get by the Kings in the playoffs last season. Hellebuyck is by far our best player and yes there are times he’s the difference.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

I rather Jets face Dallas than Avs or Minny. Matchup wise we played better against Dallas than the other two teams Also Bones must know his former team well enough to devise competitive plan

 

[bustamente]

Binnington acting like an idiot again tonight and Fleury skates down the ice trying to fight him

 

[Duke749]

Someone rock Binnington already. What a sucker punch.

 

[B33R LEAGUE]

This Minnesota St Louis Game is Interesting.

Almost had a Goalie fight.

This game reminds me ofJets vs St Louis in the playoffs.

Minnesota should win this, but watch the Blues pull it off.

 

[tbcwpg]

How many nights does Edmonton get saved by McDavid. Without him they don’t get by the Kings in the playoffs last season. Hellebuyck is by far our best player and yes there are times he’s the difference.

Sure, but "smoked them in the playoffs" is a wild exaggeration.

 

[snowkiddin]

Can’t wait until they start awarding the Stanley Cup to the team that “metrically dominates” another team but still loses

 

[Buffdog]

Can’t wait until they start awarding the Stanley Cup to the team that “metrically dominates” another team but still loses

We can do away with goalies altogether. Just put up a sheet of plywood and track how many shots teams put up and where they come from. Who needs actual goals anyway?

 

[WolfHouse]

Can’t wait until they start awarding the Stanley Cup to the team that “metrically dominates” another team but still loses

NHLAI

 

[AlphaLackey]

We can do away with goalies altogether. Just put up a sheet of plywood and track how many shots teams put up and where they come from. Who needs actual goals anyway?

Just put the nets down and go six skaters a side

 

[MardyBum]

The narrative on here between the Oilers series and the Vegas series is funny.

 

[Weezeric]

Can’t wait until they start awarding the Stanley Cup to the team that “metrically dominates” another team but still loses

Metrically dominates usually equates to a 55% vs 45% split of ~100 Corsi events in a game, maybe one good shift either way.

 

[ERYX]

Sure, but "smoked them in the playoffs" is a wild exaggeration.

4-0 series win is 4-0 series win. I don't see it as a "wild exaggeration". Wins in overtime don't count as losses, at least to me. YMMV but I'm guessing Edmonton fans don't feel that the dominated or won that series.

 

[BoneDocUK]

4-0 series win is 4-0 series win. I don't see it as a "wild exaggeration". Wins in overtime don't count as losses, at least to me. YMMV but I'm guessing Edmonton fans don't feel that the dominated or won that series.

Based on some of their main board cheerleaders, I sometimes feel like their fans feel like they dominate every game and series -- certainly against the Jets.

But yeah -- we swept and with some style, as I remember it. And I suspect 55 still has the bruises to show for it.

 

[Jet]

The narrative on here between the Oilers series and the Vegas series is funny.

Right?

 

[SUX2BU]

News re: big nose

 

[WolfHouse]

Binnington will be traded in the offseason... berube must be losing his shit

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

So I finally found some stats that would give me some substance on a certain bugbear I have with modern coaches: the 'coaches challenge' for a goal.

Side note: one of the most significant lessons I remember from one of my first poker coaches: he told me that for two weeks, I should make notes of every time I had a "close decision" in my head. Like a ton of plays in poker are obvious, some are close but still clear, and relatively few are literally so close that you'd resort to a random event generator (yes, this is why top level poker pros still wear wrist-watches; so they can generate random events by looking at the second readouts).

So he says, "every close call, make a note. If you win, note what you won; if you lose, note what you lost making that 'close call'"

I come back two weeks later and I say "okay here's how I did" and before I showed him, he said "if your results are anything other than close to zero, you're doing something VERY wrong".

And it sunk in, right? If you think it's a "close call" but you have a massive edge when you do it, it really isn't a close call, huh?

Anyways: here are this year's current stats on the "close call" of challenging a goal.

https://morehockeystats.com/coaches/challenge

151 success, 50 failures.

75% chance of taking a goal off the board, 25% chance of a 20% chance of being scored on.

Suffice it to say, this is NOT a close call. Coaches are being INSANELY too conservative.

Of course, our own coach Jurassic Bones is +5 -2 this year; if he was +2 -5 he'd be almost close to optimal.

And yes, a hundred times yes, I understand that there is a lot of hockey that can't be boiled down to percentages.

This is one, and the most obvious one. Completely inexcusable for the league as a whole to be this far off the mark.

So it really wasn't close. The coach didn't think it was that close or he wouldn't risk the penalty. The ref either thought it was close or thought it wasn't close but on the opposite side of the issue.

Do away with coaches challenges. Have the war room monitoring every play. If it is so close that they need to study it for several minutes, from umpteen angles, then it is too close to overrule the ref on the ice. If it is a grossly missed call by the officials, blow the horn.

The whole purpose of bringing in these challenges was to correct those gross miscalls that are bound to happen occasionally.