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My god. What piece of Art. Gonna paint one wall from my man-cave like this.
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One of my guilty pleasures is to go into other teams' GDTs if we win the game. Not to write, just to read. It's fun, you should try it.

I did that when we beat the Leafs last time, but I couldn't finish that thread. It was just too depressing to read.
 
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Late on this one here...but all my friends are either Leafs, Sens, or Habs fans so this has been rather entertaining for me for several days now lol.

I have no problem with what Ridly Greig did. He scored an empty net goal, IDGAF how. Rielly's response was stupid and flat out bad. At first I thought 3 or so games would be good, but after seeing all of the statements from other Leafs players and Keefe where they paint themselves as persecuted victims, in addition to all of the petulant whining from their fanbase, I just wanna see the league throw the book at him now.

Here's an idea, Toronto: Don't want opponents to score flamboyant empty net goals? Win the f***ing game.
 
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WolvesAndWings said:
Late on this one here...but all my friends are either Leafs, Sens, or Habs fans so this has been rather entertaining for me for several days now lol.

I have no problem with what Ridly Greig did. He scored an empty net goal, IDGAF how. Rielly's response was stupid and flat out bad. At first I thought 3 or so games would be good, but after seeing all of the statements from other Leafs players and Keefe where they paint themselves as persecuted victims, in addition to all of the petulant whining from their fanbase, I just wanna see the league throw the book at him now.

Here's an idea, Toronto: Don't want opponents to score flamboyant empty net goals? Win the f***ing hockey game..
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The entertainment value around this is pretty much off the charts. People are melting down and everyone thinks their view is the moral high ground.

That’s why I also have no problem with what Greig did. I think it was hilarious, high level trolling and completely non violent. But at the same time it gets peoples blood boiling (fans and players alike). It’s good for the game.

Even if Reilly didn’t try to take his head off. It would have created anticipation for the next matchup. Will someone try and fight him? Will the fans boo every time he touches the puck? Will the Leafs try and run up the score if they get a chance?
 
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The entertainment value around this is pretty much off the charts. People are melting down and everyone thinks their view is the moral high ground.

That’s why I also have no problem with what Greig did. I think it was hilarious, high level trolling and completely non violent. But at the same time it gets peoples blood boiling (fans and players alike). It’s good for the game.

Even if Reilly didn’t try to take his head off. It would have created anticipation for the next matchup. Will someone try and fight him? Will the fans boo every time he touches the puck? Will the Leafs try and run up the score if they get a chance?
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No doubt, agreed.

I woulda been totally fine with Rielly doing something that didn't involve a two handed cross check to the head, to be clear. Like I was also happy when the league threw the book at Perron (though Joseph shoulda been suspended too). There's nothing "tough" about assault to the head with a literal weapon.

Hit him hard after the play, fight, grab him and throw him to the ground, sure, facewash him, jump the guy, etc etc.
 
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RRhoads said:
One of my guilty pleasures is to go into other teams' GDTs if we win the game. Not to write, just to read. It's fun, you should try it.

I did that when we beat the Leafs last time, but I couldn't finish that thread. It was just too depressing to read.
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I do the same 🤣
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Always fine to read, guys, but yeah…be sure not to write.

As a Global moderator, I get the pleasure of reading most of them anyway. It can be really depressing.
 
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RRhoads said:
One of my guilty pleasures is to go into other teams' GDTs if we win the game. Not to write, just to read. It's fun, you should try it.

I did that when we beat the Leafs last time, but I couldn't finish that thread. It was just too depressing to read.
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I like to do this primarily when a call is 50-50. Or even just to see if they acknowledge it when game management is biasing their team. Might sound oversimplified but the more responses I see that sound like, "I'll take the call but I'd be pissed if I were a Wings fan" or vice versa the less annoyed I seem to be towards that fan base.
 
I figured Rielly would get 5 games or less, I was banking on less than Perron got. Sure enough, 5 games it is.

I wouldn't have gone beyond 6 games, but I'm not sure there's any good justification for going less than 6.
 
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They need to refine the prompts. The crybaby factor is exquisite, but they completely missed the arrogance.
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And here's the missing arrogance.

www.tsn.ca

Toronto Maple Leafs D Morgan Rielly to appeal suspension to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman | TSN

Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman Morgan Rielly will appeal his five-game suspension to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, the team announced Wednesday.
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There's video evidence of him charging across the ice and cross checking a guy in the head, in response to the oh-so-dangerous... empty net showboating. Not sure what grounds he will be using to appeal.

Other than the, "Do you know what team I play for? We're literally the center of the hockey universe."
 
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And here's the missing arrogance.

www.tsn.ca

Toronto Maple Leafs D Morgan Rielly to appeal suspension to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman | TSN

Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman Morgan Rielly will appeal his five-game suspension to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, the team announced Wednesday.
www.tsn.ca www.tsn.ca

There's video evidence of him charging across the ice and cross checking a guy in the head, in response to the oh-so-dangerous... empty net showboating. Not sure what grounds he will be using to appeal.

Other than the, "Do you know what team I play for? We're literally the center of the hockey universe."
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Didn't Walman appeal? And then Gary made a decision on the appeal after his 6-game suspension was already complete?
 
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Didn't Walman appeal? And then Gary made a decision on the appeal after his 6-game suspension was already complete?
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Assuming he did, I also think that's dumb. But if he used the grounds that he thought he was retaliating against the player who just injured Larkin, that ranks lower on the Dumb-O-Meter than Reilly trying to justify his actions.
 
Can he get a longer suspension on appeal?

If he appeals this, does he really understand how serious this is?
 
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Assuming he did, I also think that's dumb. But if he used the grounds that he thought he was retaliating against the player who just injured Larkin, that ranks lower on the Dumb-O-Meter than Reilly trying to justify his actions.
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I agree it would rank lower. But I can't really blame guys for appealing these things. It's money and games at stake for them. On a small scale, it's their career being affected. If they feel they have any chance to win an appeal, I'd expect them to go for it. It's not arrogance so much as it is not wanting to lose out over something they can't change, whether they regret their actions or not.

In this case, Greig did a thing that is a no-no. Many fans seem to not understand that, or not agree that it should be a no-no, but it's a no-no in hockey. While some opponents might just shrug and care less about it than others, it's still showing the other team up and a lot of guys are going to react. Did Rielly over-react? Well I think most of us would agree on that. And he's going to pay the price for that, just like Greig paid the price for what he did.

The "don't want to get a slapshot into your empty net? then don't allow the other team to get a lead!" sentiment is pretty empty though. You can just pivot it to "don't want to get attacked? then don't show the other team up!" Same thing. These guys all know what they're doing.

All in all it was a pretty minor thing in and of itself, but I'm glad it happened, just for all of the drama and fall out lol. Good for Greig for trolling the Leafs :laugh:
 
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Assuming he did, I also think that's dumb. But if he used the grounds that he thought he was retaliating against the player who just injured Larkin, that ranks lower on the Dumb-O-Meter than Reilly trying to justify his actions.
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Perron appealed. Bettman didn't respond to the appeal until after Perron had already sat for 6 games and then denied it anyway.

I think it's worth appealing just to show what a farce the process is. And there's the minuscule chance they may get some money back.
 
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Perron appealed. Bettman didn't respond to the appeal until after Perron had already sat for 6 games and then denied it anyway.

I think it's worth appealing just to show what a farce the process is. And there's the minuscule chance they may get some money back.
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I guess I just have a different frame of reference then. I would've been fine with Perron getting suspended for MUCH longer than 6 games. There is absolutely no set of circumstances that I think makes it ok to use your stick to forcibly contact a player's head or neck.

Greig effectively said NA NA NA NA NA.
Reilly decided to respond with an assault.

HOT TAKE INCOMING...

At best, Reilly should be embarrassed by his own actions. At worst, that's borderline mental instability. Had he responded with a minor shove or a face wash that then escalated into something more, that would at least be more understandable. But instantly and completely flying off the handle for something so incredibly minor - and then appealing the punishment - is downright insulting.

If I were in Bettman's shoes, I'd use the appeal hearing to double the suspension.
 
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