Around the League Thread part V

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KINGS17

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Good for the fans boycotting, just like Buffalo, f*** these teams if they continue to live in fantasyland.

I missed the news on this one. Was this an organized boycott in Philadelphia?

This is a franchise that boycotted Kate Smith's rendition of "God Bless America", so yeah f them.
 

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Gonna be an ugly next few weeks for the Devils in net. Blackwood missed the start of the season with a heel injury and apparently it had been nagging him the entire time. Jonathan Bernier is done for the season after hip surgery.

Blackwood, probably hurt all season: 22 starts
Bernier, probably hurt all season: 8 starts
Gillies, wasn't with the organization on opening day: 4 starts
Daws, first year pro, currently injured: 2 starts
Schmid, first year pro: 2 starts
 

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Gonna be an ugly next few weeks for the Devils in net. Blackwood missed the start of the season with a heel injury and apparently it had been nagging him the entire time. Jonathan Bernier is done for the season after hip surgery.

Blackwood, probably hurt all season: 22 starts
Bernier, probably hurt all season: 8 starts
Gillies, wasn't with the organization on opening day: 4 starts
Daws, first year pro, currently injured: 2 starts
Schmid, first year pro: 2 starts


Yikes, trending towards the Fukufuji year for the Kings
 

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Gonna be an ugly next few weeks for the Devils in net. Blackwood missed the start of the season with a heel injury and apparently it had been nagging him the entire time. Jonathan Bernier is done for the season after hip surgery.

Blackwood, probably hurt all season: 22 starts
Bernier, probably hurt all season: 8 starts
Gillies, wasn't with the organization on opening day: 4 starts
Daws, first year pro, currently injured: 2 starts
Schmid, first year pro: 2 starts


Schmid gives up 3 goals on 7 shots. Gillies just gave up goal on first shot he saw.

Devils have to do this due to injury, but I remember arguing with another guy on the Devils board who wanted Schmid to start earlier in the season because he had decent AHL numbers. I believe his rationale was "what's the worst that could happen?" *takes a look at Schmid's .824 NHL sv%*

Also the same guy who called me an idiot for advocating to use a late round pick on Viktor Arvidsson in 2014. [/venting]
 

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Barry Brust and Yutaka Fukufuji sounds like a late 80's WWF syndicated TV match. At least we have Jason LaBarbera to thank for the NHL/NHLPA removing the recall waivers rule from the CBA.

And while I'm referencing 'rasslin, LaBarbera had some amusing wrestling themed masks over his career: Check Out Jason Labarbera’s Awesome The Rock Tribute Mask | InGoal Magazine
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if anyone watched the sens-sabres game, dell checked a guy in the trapezoid and took him out of the game

every single opportunity to lay body, both teams are doing it and hard.. what a stark difference from a kings game man..
 

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if anyone watched the sens-sabres game, dell checked a guy in the trapezoid and took him out of the game

every single opportunity to lay body, both teams are doing it and hard.. what a stark difference from a kings game man..

I actually think we've really been laying it on the last few games.
 

tny760

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I actually think we've really been laying it on the last few games.
it's definitely better than before but man, these guys.. every dump-in is a guaranteed plastering, guys are coming down the half-wall to take legitimate runs

dell getting shelled and giving up an ennis hat trick in the last minute makes it even more entertaining
 

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Respectfully disagree.

I prefer to use historical precedent on how other teams have successfully handled similar players to Byfield and Turcotte rather than trust Blakey, Nelly and Muzz. And generally the way the majority of teams have handled these types of players is pretty clearly defined. NHL at 18 for QB, a 6'4 #2 pick who had a dominating season in the OHL before he was drafted. The norm in handling a player like this is not to have him play a bunch of games in the minors or back in junior but to have him in the NHL. Look at the history of #1 and #2 OA picks and how they are handled. For Turcotte the norm would have been 2 years of college and then turn pro (in most cases quickly to the NHL). In the last few years we have seen Makar, Hughes, Norris, Werenski, Boeser, McAvoy, Miller, Caufield, York, Boldy, Knight, Newhook, Sanderson, Holloway, Power, Beniers, Johnson and Brisson as 1st round picks who all returned to college for their sophomore years. How many other teams chose to sign a player (who might have been 175 lbs at the time) to put him in the AHL for the entire season as a teenager? There have been a few, how have those players turned out vs. the ones I listed?

Why should we trust Rob Blake and his volleyball buddies way of doing it more than how most of the rest of the league has done it? Is Blake smarter than everyone else?
I think you absolutely place QB, Turcotte and Vilardi in the AHL to develop. You can't just look at other teams and say "well those players turned out fine, it'll work with ours". No. You gotta look at what these players need. Turc needed more time in college. That's for sure. Putting him in the pros hurt him. QB needs to play in Ontario. He'll get his footing there as he already has and he'll break forth. Vilardi needs a lot of AHL time. I think the Kings are doing the right thing here with breaking them in on that level. I don't know how much ice time the big 3 are getting, but they're putting up numbers so that's good. Just stick to the plan and trust the process. We'll see results with these guys as long as we don't rush them.
 

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Oilers going to oil. Getting shut out 2-0 so far in the 3rd.

Edit: Spoke too soon. They actually tied it up. :laugh:
 
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kilowatt

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I think you absolutely place QB, Turcotte and Vilardi in the AHL to develop. You can't just look at other teams and say "well those players turned out fine, it'll work with ours". No. You gotta look at what these players need. Turc needed more time in college. That's for sure. Putting him in the pros hurt him. QB needs to play in Ontario. He'll get his footing there as he already has and he'll break forth. Vilardi needs a lot of AHL time. I think the Kings are doing the right thing here with breaking them in on that level. I don't know how much ice time the big 3 are getting, but they're putting up numbers so that's good. Just stick to the plan and trust the process. We'll see results with these guys as long as we don't rush them.

I agree on Turcotte. He should be in the AHL, preferably getting top six minutes and power play time. He just needs to get stronger, he looks like Lizotte out there most shifts. Same with Kupari. Byfield, I'm not sure I agree. There's nothing really holding him back right now except, to some degree perhaps, faceoffs. I think at the very least he deserves another ten games or so to see how he fares. If he starts to falter, fine. But he's arguably been the most dynamic, electric player on the team the past three games. He's just stuck out there with Brown and Grundstrom for some reason.
 

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Byfield is looking like he belongs based on what we're seeing. The ice time will go up as he continues to show that. Points will come, remember he didn't even score a point in his first four AHL games this year either. It's an adjustment moving up to the NHL, but he's looking fine so far.
 
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kilowatt

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The only thing Vilardi seems to excel it is potential. Doesn't do the team much good.

Vilardi's at a point per game in the AHL right now and had 23 points in 54 games last year in the NHL. Through 41 games last season, he had more points than Kaliyev, Lizotte, Kupari, Grundstrom, and Lemieux, among others.

Why do people have such a hate-on for the guy?
 

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Vilardi's at a point per game in the AHL right now and had 23 points in 54 games last year in the NHL. Through 41 games last season, he had more points than Kaliyev, Lizotte, Kupari, Grundstrom, and Lemieux, among others.

Why do people have such a hate-on for the guy?
Why isn't he playing now?
 
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