Around the League Thread part V

[Gjwrams]

Do we possible go to Columbus for Gavrikov or Bean?

 

[johnjm22]

Weeger and Huberdeau are both great, but they're both pending UFA's.

Huberdeau will be 30 when his next contract starts. Weeger will also turn 30 in the 1st year of his next deal.

This is a great deal for the Flames in the short term, but not good in the medium term or long term IMO. The 1st round pick they get will be will late in the round.

 

[Stimpythecat]

wha? Florida?

*puts down drink*

 

[Reaper45]

Flames could walk away from this losing all of the guys, Tkachuk, Huberdeau and Weegar for nothing.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Flames could walk away from this losing all of the guys, Tkachuk, Huberdeau and Weegar for nothing.

This.

Huberdeau is going to want a similar contract to Tkachuk I'd imagine and Weegar is probably looking for a long term extension for 7 million +

I think Florida did pretty good targeting a guy who's only 24 and just put up a 100+ point season with a nice contract to go with.

 

[Reaper45]

This.

Huberdeau is going to want a similar contract to Tkachuk I'd imagine and Weegar is probably looking for a long term extension for 7 million +

I think Florida did pretty good targeting a guy who's only 24 and just put up a 100+ point season with a nice contract to go with.

And he still gets to play with some nice talent in Florida, tax free. Plus he’s out of the Western Conference thank god.

 

[johnjm22]

Huberdeau, Backlund, Lindholm, Toffoli, Hanifin, Tanev, Zadorov, Weegar

All these guys are UFA's in 1 or 2 years. And they're not a good ages to be re-signed.

 

[Herby]

This feels like a 1990’s blockbuster that you rarely see in the league anymore.

I would have taken the best package of youth and just started over. Calgary lost one of the better players in the league for nothing and had their second best player say he was leaving. It was time to throw in the towel.

 

[redcard]

Does this mean I have to start paying rent now?

 

[Peter James Bond II]

This (of course) means that Danault and Loserdeau will have more opportunities to build on their staredown...hopefully, it esclalates to fisticuffs. I cannot find that awesome GIF or clip. Does anyone have it?

Flames got hosed...and those flames were just put out. No Johnny Hockey or Tkachuk? Both gone in less than a week. Loserdeau will never get 85 assists again...since the Flames no longer have goal scorers, excecpt Mangiapane (sp) and Lindholm. Everyone on Florida scored 1.5x the amount of goals than your average hockey player....and yet, many of them are average players. If that makes sense? Somehow, you go there and your stats go up 1.5X

 

[kilowatt]

But all the Blues fans on the main board said he was a sure thing?

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

That's an absolutely massive trade, and I think Florida just got worse and Calgary got some good guys on the verge of free agency that likely cant re-sign. 5 year age difference is no small thing, but IMO Huberdeau alone is currently better than Tkachuk

 

[Telos]

I think the Kings were smart getting Fiala when they did, this market is nuts all around This is such a crazy deal. I am not a huge fan of it for Florida, but it is not the worst if they knew both guys were walking. Tkachuk is someone exciting to build around though that contract is a little scary. Calgary wins this hands down if they re-sign their end of it. Huberdeau probably has a blank check handed to him already. If both players walk Calgary gets Uber hosed and goes from hero to zero in record time losing their very own homegrown talent. Brutal, but an exciting trade for all those not involved

 

[bland]

This feels like a 1990’s blockbuster that you rarely see in the league anymore.

I would have taken the best package of youth and just started over. Calgary lost one of the better players in the league for nothing and had their second best player say he was leaving. It was time to throw in the towel.

I think they did just move for the best package of youth possible, but they won't get it until this years deadline.

Every single team in the league can fit in what could be the best offensive rental in history in Huberdeau at the deadline.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yeah that Fiala deal is looking absolutely genius right now.

Weeger and Huberdeau are both great, but they're both pending UFA's.

Huberdeau will be 30 when his next contract starts. Weeger will also turn 30 in the 1st year of his next deal.

This is a great deal for the Flames in the short term, but not good in the medium term or long term IMO. The 1st round pick they get will be will late in the round.

That was basically Seravalli's take too, sounds like Calgary basically kicked the can down the road for a year, maybe got two assets to trade at the deadline instead of one, etc.

Still not great outcome obviously but I can understand that explanation

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

This resets the clock for Calgary, and gives them time to move these new (very valuable) assets when teams actually have cap space again. Considering the timing of all this, I think Calgary did incredible

 

[Rick Knickleback]

Solid artillery blast from left field on the part of Calgary. Thats a better move than I would’ve thought possible. Conversely, bit of a risk for Florida.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Also, very glad the Kings went for Fiala, they were not touching this value

 

[Steve Zissou]

 

[Rick Knickleback]

Also, very glad the Kings went for Fiala, they were not touching this value

Other acquisitions may have a higher ceiling, but who’s been a better per dollar FA signing than Fiala at this point.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Florida has been drunk, trading first round picks like they are acquiring the final piece for the cup year after year. It's going to be much harder to get the final pieces they need going forward with no first round pick until 2027

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Florida has been drunk, trading first round picks like they are acquiring the final piece for the cup year after year. It's going to be much harder to get the final pieces they need going forward with no first round pick until 2027

So who are we giving them for Spencer Knight

 

[BringTheReign]

Do we possible go to Columbus for Gavrikov or Bean?

Or Calgary for Kylington or Hanifin.

 

[tny760]

this is one of those trades with a thousand angles to it and none of them are particularly bad (except for losing another 1st)

pretty interesting

tkachuk is the winner overall though, $3M upgrade locked down, from calgary to ft lauderdale.... yes sir.

 

[KingsFan7824]

This feels like a 1990’s blockbuster that you rarely see in the league anymore.

I would have taken the best package of youth and just started over. Calgary lost one of the better players in the league for nothing and had their second best player say he was leaving. It was time to throw in the towel.

If the owner wants to keep trying, there's not much else to do. Plus Sutter hasn't quit yet. I can see the kicking the can down the road for a few months theory, but they did get a couple legit players in the deal. They might still try to win some games before they suck.

And Florida now has a $10m player, another $10m player, and a $9.5m player, before they've won anything. The most they've done is beat up on some old men from Washington DC.