Around the League Thread part V

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Nicolas Roy and Hague from Vegas. 2 players that Kings should kick the tires on.
 
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Wonder if we could snag Ryan Graves from New Jersey.

He's not a Sergachev but he's a very good #3/4, left shot, size, good in both ends of the rink.
 
Ducks lose in OT
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The Panthers are looking really, really good this year.

This team has a ton of depth and every player up and down their lineup is producing.

Barkov and Huberdeau are leading the charge.
Bennett is having a monster year.
Duclair may not have worked with his past teams but has finally founded a home.
Lundell is a star in the making.
Reinhart was a great trade.
Bob is playing well in between the pipes and Knight has rebounded after getting shell shocked early in the season.

This may be the favorites to win the cup this year. I think they have more depth than Colorado. Question is if they can get past Tampa Bay.

These (2) Florida teams have had some really spirited rivalries as of late and would be fun to watch.
 
Florida is just insanely good.

I could see them going all the way--I could also see them having to get kicked in the teeth one more time before having what it takes.

Sure makes that Florida-TBL matchup more fun though. That round was the most fun hockey I've seen in a while
 
Tampa, Florida and Carolina are the 3 best teams in the east by a long shot in my opinion. The Talent and Depth is just ridiculous. Florida - Colorado would be an insane Stanley Cup finals. I like Kuemper but Colorado's goalies aren't as good as Bob. I would actually watch this Stanley cup finals if this happened.
 
Mason Marchment is 3rd on the Panthers in pts/game at 1.10. The same one who was never drafted, and had 2g/11pts in 37 career games prior to this season. Between that ridiculousness, and getting the production Reinhart and Bennett have given them for nothing going the other way, plus the career years from Duclair and Verhaeghe, who they also gave up nothing for, that is how you find championship depth. Just pulling stuff out of wherever, on a hope and prayer.

4 guys at at least a pt/game, and 4 more that are damn close. High draft picks, and players they got for nothing. Not a single real asset was given up for any of that. You find that lottery ticket, and you almost can't not be a contender.
 
The Panthers are looking really, really good this year.

This team has a ton of depth and every player up and down their lineup is producing.

Barkov and Huberdeau are leading the charge.
Bennett is having a monster year.
Duclair may not have worked with his past teams but has finally founded a home.
Lundell is a star in the making.
Reinhart was a great trade.
Bob is playing well in between the pipes and Knight has rebounded after getting shell shocked early in the season.

This may be the favorites to win the cup this year. I think they have more depth than Colorado. Question is if they can get past Tampa Bay.

These (2) Florida teams have had some really spirited rivalries as of late and would be fun to watch.

In less than 18 months as GM, Zito has done a great job balancing the tools of solid trades and good contracts inked. Always felt Bennett was not developed right in Calgary, now he's shining. Weeger, Duclair, Verhaeghe all signed to good contracts. Reinhart was indeed a great trade.

When he got there, I remember reading something to the effect of him talking about the 100% rule and the players on his team, everybody competes 100%. He's really shaped them into a team that is becoming a force. And Friedman has been saying that Zito wants to improve their defense and Owen Tippett might be the piece going the othe way for the right fit.
 
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I am clearly doing a crap job of communicating...

It's not that they identified a need and just "didn't try"... it's that their focus and efforts were directed in a different direction.

Imagine you need to get from Long Beach to Catalina. You hire someone to get you there and they decide to build a boat.

Ten years later the boat they built you wasn't able to get you to Catalina.

In the evaluation of the boat... I think it's fair to ask why it didn't have a motor or a proper set of sails or a sea worthy hull etc

I don't think it's fair to ask why it doesn't have wings, a nosecone or landing gear.

Sorry for the tortured metaphor.


EDIT: AND TO BE CLEAR... I'm not offering an excuse.

The club CLEARLY failed. That's why they had the season they did in 2018-19. That's why tons of veteran talented players got traded. There are plenty of mistakes to identify in the past and the present.

I just don't think this is one of them and I'm trying to explain why I feel that way about this PARTICULAR line of criticism.
I appreciate your patience and attitude as well as your explaining your perspective.

I am still trying to figure out why a team "trying to make the playoffs" would play a player (23) who has 1 pt in 43 PP on the PP at all, to say nothing of PP1.
Also why that same team would be playing a 37 yr old with defective wheels (23) in OT.
What is the organizational philosophy on that?

Relationship > Winning ??
Relationship > Using your 2nd OA stud (55) with marvelous skills and wheels? Or anyone else more effective?

As a fan I always thought winning trumps everything.
 
They got 16 mil tied up in LTIR. Good luck moving guys out to make that fit.

Dadanov dealt and a trade for a guy like Weber (assuming he'd waive as it seems likely he's unofficially retired anyway) deals with about $13 million of that. That team has no problem blowing out future assets to win today so likely they'll give up another 1st/top prospect to make it work.

I'm looking forward to the day they finally run out of all the assets they were handed in that expansion draft so they start missing the playoffs and the fanbase has a sense of the realities all teams face.
 
In less than 18 months as GM, Zito has done a great job balancing the tools of solid trades and good contracts inked. Always felt Bennett was not developed right in Calgary, now he's shining. Weeger, Duclair, Verhaeghe all signed to good contracts. Reinhart was indeed a great trade.

When he got there, I remember reading something to the effect of him talking about the 100% rule and the players on his team, everybody competes 100%. He's really shaped them into a team that is becoming a force. And Friedman has been saying that Zito wants to improve their defense and Owen Tippett might be the piece going the othe way for the right fit.

Bennett looked so good in the brief stint with Sutter. he has even said he was surprised he was traded after the Flames brought in Sutter.
for a lot of players the relationship with their coach, and how they are used is just as important in their development as the off ice work.
 
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Dadanov dealt and a trade for a guy like Weber (assuming he'd waive as it seems likely he's unofficially retired anyway) deals with about $13 million of that. That team has no problem blowing out future assets to win today so likely they'll give up another 1st/top prospect to make it work.

I'm looking forward to the day they finally run out of all the assets they were handed in that expansion draft so they start missing the playoffs and the fanbase has a sense of the realities all teams face.

I agree but i think the Eichel deal will keep them competitive for a while.
 
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I appreciate your patience and attitude as well as your explaining your perspective.

I am still trying to figure out why a team "trying to make the playoffs" would play a player (23) who has 1 pt in 43 PP on the PP at all, to say nothing of PP1.
Also why that same team would be playing a 37 yr old with defective wheels (23) in OT.
What is the organizational philosophy on that?

Relationship > Winning ??
Relationship > Using your 2nd OA stud (55) with marvelous skills and wheels? Or anyone else more effective?

As a fan I always thought winning trumps everything.
I get that Dustin Brown is everyone's scapegoat this year, but this kind of obsession is a little weird.
Yes, Brown has 1 power play goal in 43 games, but he's also fourth amongst forwards on the team in goals for per 60 minutes on the power play (ahead of Kopitar, Kempe, Iafallo, and Moore). The Kings are scoring when he's on the ice, which is what you want on the power play from a team perspective. No one seems very angry about Phillip Danault's 1 assist in 44 games.
I would agree about Brown in OT. 3 vs. 3 seems built for players like Kempe, Athanasiou, Moore, Byfield, speedsters that can score off the rush.
 
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