Around the League - PLAYOFFS!?

[meefer]

Go Oilers!

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mo Riells was one of the players Treliving would look at trading away and bringing back a bigger more physical top 4 replacement.

To this day I will never understand the thought process of the 2012 entry draft when we had Brian Burke as GM and all his bluster about .. “We require, as a team, proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence. That's how our teams play.”

Then when it came to the draft the Leafs took the small soft Morgan Rielly with the 5th overall pick and big 6-3 & 210 Jacob Trouba a big tough American was sitting right there, who I would have bet Burke would have taken in a heartbeat.

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As we all know now Trouba is the captain of the President's trophy NYR.

I think you guys should go all in on Montour. I think the problem is that you have too many two-way or defensive dmen. Everyone clamoring for an elite shut down guy when you need someone that can actually generate offense at ES and on PP. Look what Pooshart has done for us.

 

[Mess]

Trouba is actually not that smart defensively and also wanted to play in an American market

He was drafted by Winnipeg Jets and played his first 6 years there.

So why couldn't that have been similar in Toronto?

I remember at the end he wanted to return to USA and not likely re-sign in Winny so he was traded on June 17, 2019, Trouba was traded by the Jets to the New York Rangers in exchange for Neal Pionk and Winnipeg's first-round pick in the 2019 NHL Entry Draft,

Not sure how one would debate "smart defensively" but he is the Captain of the President trophy team and he is big and physical and apparently a good leader and he is a RHD which many teams covet.

He just seemed so much like he was made for a Brian Burke team, at draft time.

 

[horner]

I think you guys should go all in on Montour. I think the problem is that you have too many two-way or defensive dmen. Everyone clamoring for an elite shut down guy when you need someone that can actually generate offense at ES and on PP. Look what Pooshart has done for us.

We need both
A great start would be Montour
Tanev would be a great add as well

 

[horner]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mo Riells was one of the players Treliving would look at trading away and bringing back a bigger more physical top 4 replacement.

To this day I will never understand the thought process of the 2012 entry draft when we had Brian Burke as GM and all his bluster about .. “We require, as a team, proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence. That's how our teams play.”

Then when it came to the draft the Leafs took the small soft Morgan Rielly with the 5th overall pick and big 6-3 & 210 Jacob Trouba a big tough American was sitting right there, who I would have bet Burke would have taken in a heartbeat.

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As we all know now Trouba is the captain of the President's trophy NYR.

Lindholm 6 mil a yr
Ekholm 6.5 mil a yr
Trouba 8 mil a yr


Rielly at best a 6 mil dman we will have to retain 1.5 mil
Didn't like the signing for 7.5 mil

 

[horner]

Not gonna lie, but I feel like other teams in the Leafs division just mess with Leaf fans because I. feel like every year Cooper and Marchand say this. It's possible that they mean it but it feels like they say this every year and I'm just like when will this become true finally.

If we were in the West we probably would have won a couple of rounds.

Edmonton will find what our team goes through.

The toughest division in the league

 

[MCR74]

Yeah this is horseshit lol. There's no way Canucks and Flames fans are rooting for Edmonton either. With Toronto that's at least 3 fanbases that don't support that

If it was our team, no way would Edmonton fans support Toronto. Screw Wayne.

 

[Nineteen67]

The final doesn’t start until Saturday? Why not Thursday? The NHL will be long forgotten in the US by then.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Everybody going crazy for a pair of fake tits.

 

[Trapper]

Everybody going crazy for a pair of fake tits.

Well we are hoping to trade Marner and Tavares only has a year left as well.

 

[IPS]

If we were in the West we probably would have won a couple of rounds.

Edmonton will find what our team goes through.

The toughest division in the league

You drastically underestimate this team's ability to find ways to lose. We've been through the ringer with crap teams before and even they beat us as well.

 

[Nineteen67]

If we were in the West we probably would have won a couple of rounds.

Edmonton will find what our team goes through.

The toughest division in the league

It’s not shinny, Western teams scout and have a game plan as well. Not many playoff teams that couldn’t beat the Leafs in a playoff series this season. Two maybe?

 

[1specter]

The final doesn’t start until Saturday? Why not Thursday? The NHL will be long forgotten in the US by then.

They've been trying to copy the NBA more especially after the big TV deals recently with ESPN and TNT.

 

[MSZ]

The final doesn’t start until Saturday? Why not Thursday? The NHL will be long forgotten in the US by then.

The NBA starts on Thursday.

 

[Nineteen67]

They've been trying to copy the NBA more especially after the big TV deals recently with ESPN and TNT.

The NBA doesn’t play on weekdays?

The NBA starts on Thursday.

It wouldn’t be on ABC.

 

[Oilers in NS]

He lost about 20% of his final 3 seasons here compared to GP.

Lost a month for his ankle sprain in 18-19
Lost 6 months for the ACL surgery after 2019. Probably should have missed that playoffs.
Lost a month for the knee injury after Elders hit in 2021, came back for playoffs and didn't look great.

So 3 separate month long injuries in 3 seasons including a major surgery


Ps who has their team win a conference finals then immediately comes to another teams board.

because I was talking to a fan who had question for me on this teams board from our board. Is there a problem with it?Nothing was sad bad

 

[Fogelhund]

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[Malachi Crunch]

Everybody going crazy for a pair of fake tits.

This woman has "The Kavorka". Some sort of animal magnetism where every guy I know has watched her video repeatedly.

 

[Blanka]

I'll cheer for the Oilers. I'll even look up where Edmonton is so that I can appease the Edmontonians who think that everyone from Toronto is a snob. It's near Calgary, right?

 

[ACC1224]

This woman has "The Kavorka". Some sort of animal magnetism where every guy I know has watched her video repeatedly.

I still haven't seen it

 

[ToneDog]

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Good for little Joe. I'm thinking he will turn out to be a better mentor for Wyatt Johnston than Marleau was for the 3 amigos.

 

[MSZ]

Everybody going crazy for a pair of fake tits.

It's free though. It's not like something behind a paywall at onlyfans.

 

[ToneDog]

Everybody going crazy for a pair of fake tits.

Sounds about right for the same fans that go crazy for a core of frauds.

 

[Enga Olly]

Wow.

So I'm responding to this assuming you aren't being ironic. If you are, please disregard the following response. However...if you honestly believe the content of your post I'm going to respond to each part and I will be less polite than others have been because this is the biggest bunch of cowardly neutered horseshit I have ever read. Gloves off.

Even the folks that architected this malignant tumor of a hockey team probably don't even truly believe this anymore.

Matthews debuted in October of 2016. Since that time, we have never won more than 5 playoff games in a season. Now, it's evident you don't care about the playoffs at all but I'd like to tell you that it takes 16 wins to finish the journey. Since October of 2016, we have changed goaltenders, depth pieces, defensemen and even coaches. You know the one constant, after all these years? The core. This overpaid, selfish, cowardly, egotistical soft bunch of losers core. They produce when life is easy and give up when life is hard.

The Florida Panthers have been to more Cup finals in the last two years than the number of TOTAL PLAYOFF SERIES this team has won during the entirety of the salary cap era. Why don't you stew on that embarrassing fact for a while and get back to me.

Nope. Maybe in the regular season but no one over the age of 12 should care about that at this point. Do you actually for real believe this shit? Did you ever play hockey as a kid? Did you dream of winning the President's Trophy? No. You dreamed of winning the Stanley Cup, the only team trophy that matters.

Do you think for one minute that Connor McDavid or Leon Draisaitl care about the regular season even the slightest at this point? No. Of course not. Because they are trying to win and if you watched how freaking unstoppable they are when the games truly matter that you'd realize the same thing.

The Leafs can't win in the playoffs, waaah it's all about luck! Can't be our precious lovely glorious team that's the problem, waaah! ONCE YOU LOSE SO MANY TIMES IN THE PLAYOFFS IT'S NOT LUCK IT'S A FREAKING PATTERN. Sorry you can't see and/or handle the truth.

HOCKEY ISN'T f***ING PLAYED ON PAPER! Are you kidding me?!?!?

Are the Oilers a sketchy team? Of course. Do they have depth and goaltending issues? Of course. But they have guys that can carry them and make up for their mismanagement, guys that are currently massively underpaid compared to the Four Horsemen of the Failpocalypse. Even if the Oilers lose in the finals McDrai are each ten times the player than Flasher McPornstache or any of these other guys will ever be.

Now, since no other team has guys of that caliber, we have to find other ways to win. Perhaps we can add other depth pieces to help pick up the slack during the postseason to take some pressure off the overpaid guys that apparently can't handle the pressure? Uh oh, they consume too much cap space for us to do that! Also, they are paid like players that can take over games and if they can't lead by example that is THEIR problem, not the JAG's that fight for the table scraps of cap space left over by the four Scrooge McDuck's.

OH IS THAT ALL?!?!?!? Not that the playoffs are important or anything, right? Not like it's...oh, I don't know, THE LITERAL REASON WHY YOU PLAY THIS GAME? Well, it's certainly not the reason Mitch does, but it's the reason McDrai do at the moment.

No player, I repeat NO PLAYER, is worth more than the team. I'd trade Mitch Marner, or anyone else in this forsaken clusterf*** of an organization, for gonorrhea if it would make the Maple Leafs better and so should anyone else.

Wait wait wait, I thought we were a super-duper awesome team that is better than the Oilers? Are you telling me that Columbus was as good as us back then, but that we are also now better than a team in the Cup finals despite the fact that our points percentage isn't massively different (since you care so much about the RS play-in tournament)? How is it that we keep losing to teams better than us if we are so much more awesome than a team that wins rounds more often than us and just now made it to the Cup finals? Hmmm...

WE
STILL
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GARBAGE
WHEN
IT
ACTUALLY
MATTERS
OPEN
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DAMN
EYES

Who cares? At least when we rebuilt there was a possibility you can create something special down the road. There is ZERO possibility these 4 guys can lead us anywhere as a group with the amount of cap space they consume. ZERO. Once again, I don't need to argue this point because the evidence already has shown it time and time again.

I would rather be rebuilding and have actual hope than be kicked in the dick in the 1st round of the playoffs while the rest of Canada and the entire hockey world laughs at us year after year. This house has fancy appliances, an open-floor concept and spacious bedrooms...and the foundation is set on a nuclear waste dump. It will inevitably decay. That's the reality, whether you see it or not.

You know what winners do? They go out and SLAY THEIR SUPPOSED GODS LIKE WARRIOR BADASSES. They don't make excuses. When the Islanders defeated Gretzky's Oilers in the playoffs in the last year of the NYI dynasty, #99 walked by the Isles' locker room, expecting to see jubilation. You know what he saw? Pain. He saw grown men that had paid the ultimate sports sacrifice, ruining their minds and body to climb a mountain that only a sacred few have earned the right to climb. It was then, and not until then, that Wayne truly understood what it takes.

@Evilhomer is exactly right: too many in this fanbase are easy to please. Fans content with this drivel are one reason why this team doesn't have the urgency they should. This dates all the way back well before Steve Stavro, but do you remember how he didn't want to acquire Wayne Gretzky because "it wouldn't put any more butts in the seats?" Maybe it's time that changes. Have some self respect, pride and standards for once, Jesus f***ing Christ. PARTICIPATION TROPHIES FOR EVERYONE, BE SURE TO LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE! Barf. Barf, barf, barf a thousand times barf.

I cannot believe I wasted my time on this garbage. But more than that, I cannot believe that anyone would humiliate themselves enough to be content with this garbage product. But you know what? If I'm proven wrong and a miracle happens and this team DOES win a Cup? I will be so, so happy to eat crow and be wrong because I care infinitely more about the team than I do about being right on the Internet. I would love to buy you a case of beer in that scenario, anything you want. But don't hold your breath. If these guys had the ability or desire to win they would have shown a heck of a lot more by now than they have.

That's a lot of effort there - no sense in responding but cool we see things differently. I've watched the Leafs since around 1970/71. My least favorite period is the post lockout and that's up against the dreadful eighties and the Ballard era. Regular season apparently doesn't mean a thing to anyone here - so you're apparently post-lockout Leafs and Matthews era Leafs are a wash to you. Not me. No need to yell and stomp your feet. I enjoy the 82 games a lot more with AM and MM than Kessel and Phaneuf. I simply don't have that Toronto Sports Radio mentality that you do.

We lost in game 7 overtime . 2 shitty goals that bum Samsonov let in - that means MM and AM suck and Leafs can't win with this core? I think that is stupid analysis - you think otherwise.

 

[keonsbitterness]

I only care what Rory McIlroy thinks.