Around the League - PLAYOFFS!?

[BrannigansLaw]

Dahlin is becoming what Sabres fans were dreaming he would. Lucky bastards

Sabres overall haven’t looked too great in this game honestly. They had basically two chances in the 3rd and buried both. Otherwise, Flyers have actually owned the play.

But yeah Dahlin is a stud unfortunately for us

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Sabres overall haven’t looked too great in this game honestly. They had basically two chances in the 3rd and buried both. Otherwise, Flyers have actually owned the play.

But yeah Dahlin is a stud unfortunately for us

True.
I’ve actually watched a few of their games and I have to admit the Flyers are many levels better than I expected them to be. They’ll miss Hart if he’s out for long.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

There has been some surprisingly great skills on display in this Anaheim/Arizona game.
Oh, and Gudas is playing too.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

I love that he scored lol

This one was for Pierre!

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

There has been some surprisingly great skills on display in this Anaheim/Arizona game.
Oh, and Gudas is playing too.

Cooley's first NHL goal was pretty nice

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Cooley's first NHL goal was pretty nice

Yup, that was a beauty. Mintyukov is going to be a good one too.
Don`t know what`s up with Zegras this season. Hardly notice him.

 

[Jojalu]

There has been some surprisingly great skills on display in this Anaheim/Arizona game.
Oh, and Gudas is playing too.

They have some pretty legit animosity between them.

Games usually have a lot of fireworks

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Flames finally played with some urgency in the 3rd but too little too late. They were horrendous in the 2nd

Good for their unintentional tank

 

[Mess]

By taking a non playoff team and having them sit out of the playoffs 9 games into the season?

It might end up being a terrible season for Pit and you could end up being correct but it feels a little premature to gloat. Also who cares? He is gone from Toronto. Why continue to celebrate/hope for his demise?

His gross incompetence destroyed my Leafs and wasted 5 years and Leafs best chances to win a Cup when the 3 Amigo's were on their RFA 2nd and coming out of ELCs.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Crouse pushes Gudas aside like he’s a stuffed animal and bangs home his 2nd.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Crouse pushes Gudas aside like he’s a stuffed animal and bangs home his 2nd.

Would love a player like that on the Leafs.

 

[Stephen]

The Blackhawks had no 1st rounders taken away from them, and ended up with Bedard...

If that doesn't tell you something's wrong...

The league geniuses seem to keep trying to pump up the Chicago Blackhawks and piggy back that franchise into a Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls 90s run to launch the NHL into relevance… they will overlook anything and bend over backwards for that team.

 

[Stephen]

Sandin is having a brutal crash landing season in Washington. Maybe Dubas avoided a Travis Dermott depreciation there.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Terry with the OT winner for the hatty.
That was a good game.

 

[Dekes For Days]

His gross incompetence destroyed my Leafs and wasted 5 years and Leafs best chances to win a Cup when the 3 Amigo's were on their RFA 2nd and coming out of ELCs.

Except what he actually did was save us from the gross incompetence of Lou, build one of the best teams in the league, give this franchise multiple legitimate chances to win the cup for the first time in decades, and set the team up well for the future.

 

[1specter]

I imagine this song playing whenever Dekes talks about Dubas

 

[Arzak]

Except what he actually did was save us from the gross incompetence of Lou, build one of the best teams in the league, give this franchise multiple legitimate chances to win the cup for the first time in decades, and set the team up well for the future.

It was the fist of the series of questionable decisions Leafs made after drafting Matthews.

If anything by now it should be clear Dubas failed RFA negotiations, you can bitch about Lou overpaying UFA but he never overpaid for RFA with close to no options.

It's also clear this super soft friendly approach with back then young kids was detrimental to their testicular growth . The same with Mike being swapped for Keefe.

We started way too old school Lou and overcompensated with Dubas in a big way.


You have the benefit of hindsight now, time to admit Dubas was a failure and letting Lou go was the first step to mediocracy.

Kyle managed to downgrade our roster - compared to where we started and we only had to pay all the picks we had in the last 7 years .


Side note, sh*ting on Lou is just a way to distract us from Dubas rookie mistakes.

 

[Peasy]

Except what he actually did was save us from the gross incompetence of Lou, build one of the best teams in the league, give this franchise multiple legitimate chances to win the cup for the first time in decades, and set the team up well for the future.

Leafs ain't winning shit lol.

The roster is so flawed I don't know how people still can't see it.

Trash d, poor d depth, no good d specs, depleted draft pick supply, shit bottom 6. Yeah def set em up well for the future

They're a bunch of pretenders. Always have been, always will be.

 

[Dekes For Days]

If anything by now it should be clear Dubas failed RFA negotiations, you can bitch about Lou overpaying UFA but he never overpaid for RFA with close to no options.
It's also clear this super soft friendly approach with back then young kids was detrimental to their testicular growth . The same with Mike being swapped for Keefe.

The only thing that is clear is that many in this market still refuse to accept the facts of how contract valuation works in the NHL.
The RFAs (which had quite a bit of options and leverage, for the record, and not a great relationship with the team thanks to Lou/Babcock) were not overpaid.
Lou however did overpay multiple way less important players in his short time and create multiple anchors.
And there's nothing wrong with their growth; much less something attributable to Dubas.
And Keefe is 10 times the coach and person Babcock is. Babcock couldn't even last one day at his new job.

Kyle managed to downgrade our roster - compared to where we started and we only had to pay all the pick we had in the last 7 years .

He massively upgraded our roster, and massively upgraded our prospect pool at the same time.

The roster is so flawed I don't know how people still can't see it.

Certainly more flawed now that our good GM is gone.

 

[Arzak]

The only thing that is clear is that many in this market still refuse to accept the facts of how contract valuation works in the NHL.
The RFAs (which had quite a bit of options and leverage, for the record, and not a great relationship with the team thanks to Lou/Babcock) were not overpaid.
Lou however did overpay multiple way less important players in his short time and create multiple anchors.
And there's nothing wrong with their growth; much less something attributable to Dubas.
And Keefe is 10 times the coach and person Babcock is. Babcock couldn't even last one day at his new job.

He massively upgraded our roster, and massively upgraded our prospect pool at the same time.

Certainly more flawed now that our good GM is gone.

I thought you had good points at the time of signing, but it was all based on the assumption that RFA is the new UFA. That never happened. All the prediction were wrong and the league did not follow Leafs suit as predicted - by you.


The second part is just crazy talk. We stagnated and paid additional picks for Dubas RFA signings.
In no way we are better, which is frankly insane considering we improved by the virtue of Matthews,Nylander and Marner growing up.

 

[Peasy]

I thought you had good points at the time of signing, but it was all based on the assumption that RFA is the new UFA. That never happened. All the prediction were wrong and the league did not follow Leafs suit as predicted - by you.


The second part is just crazy talk. We stagnated and paid additional picks for Dubas RFA signings.
In no way we are better, which is frankly insane considering we improved by the virtue of Matthews,Nylander and Marner growing up.

Exactly lol. Those dudes have carried the team in the regular season and will continue to do so. What significant pieces did Dubas add that arent any of the 4?

I look at the roster today and see nothing. Knies is his best get, but that was more of the scouts work. He was never able to obtain a significant roster piece that we kept for years.

 

[Arzak]

Exactly lol. Those dudes have carried the team in the regular season and will continue to do so. What significant pieces did Dubas add that arent any of the 4?

I look at the roster today and see nothing. Knies is his best get, but that was more of the scouts work. He was never able to obtain a significant roster piece that we kept for years.

We lost Kadri, AJ, Kappanen and all the picks in the world. I don't see an improved prospect or draft pool either.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I thought you had good points at the time of signing, but it was all based on the assumption that RFA is the new UFA.
That never happened. All the prediction were wrong and the league did not follow Leafs suit as predicted - by you.

It was never based on an assumption that "RFA is the new UFA" or a prediction that anything would change league-wide.
It was based on the historical facts of post-ELC contracts and contract valuation in the NHL.
The contracts align perfectly fine.

The second part is just crazy talk. We stagnated

We did not stagnate at all. We improved massively from the time Dubas took over to the time he left, in pretty much every possible area.

 

[Nineteen67]

Leafs ain't winning shit lol.

The roster is so flawed I don't know how people still can't see it.

Trash d, poor d depth, no good d specs, depleted draft pick supply, shit bottom 6. Yeah def set em up well for the future

They're a bunch of pretenders. Always have been, always will be.

It’s hard to break down their roster and predict a long run in the playoffs. They're a good team and should make the playoffs, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they didn’t.

Forwards
The A level talent is top tier, but they have proven they’re not good enough in the big situation. Really good players but they lack a certain skill.

The B level - I don’t know who they are but Domi, Jarnkrok, and Bertuzzi are in that level

The C level is not good at all.

Defence

A level - Reilly needs help
B level - too slow or too old
C level - slower and older.

Goaltending

I think they may have solved this

When you go into a season with 4 or 5 question/unknowns with suspect coaching you can’t really expect them all to turn out positive.

The fan reaction reminds me of the Jays season where we knew in February they weren’t good enough, yet fans acted surprised when they didn’t win.

 

[ACC1224]

I imagine this song playing whenever Dekes talks about Dubas

On an endless loop.