Around the League - PLAYOFFS!?

[Nineteen67]

I thought you had good points at the time of signing, but it was all based on the assumption that RFA is the new UFA. That never happened. All the prediction were wrong and the league did not follow Leafs suit as predicted - by you.


The second part is just crazy talk. We stagnated and paid additional picks for Dubas RFA signings.
In no way we are better, which is frankly insane considering we improved by the virtue of Matthews,Nylander and Marner growing up.

Dubas worked hard and he tried, but the money and resources he spent to win one round in 5 yrs is quite staggering.
Treliving is in a tough spot and has to decide what he’s going to do with the expiring contracts - Brodie, Klingberg, Domi, Bertuzzi, and Gio - he has to take a serious look at trading them.

 

[ACC1224]

Dubas worked hard and he tried, but the money and resources he spent to win one round in 5 yrs is quite staggering.
Treliving is in a tough spot and has to decide what he’s going to do with the expiring contracts - Brodie, Klingberg, Domi, Bertuzzi, and Gio - he has to take a serious look at trading them.

They'd never admit it but I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking at this season as a reset year, blow the Dubas stench off the Team and regroup next year.

 

[Peasy]

They'd never admit it but I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking at this season as a reset year, blow the Dubas stench off the Team and regroup next year.

Honestly wouldnt blame them. Theyve been bleeding assets non-stop for years. Tampa missed a year with their core before winning their cups.

The D and depth are just such a mess I still find it surprising people think its enough to win (sure it could happen, its just extremely unlikely).

 

[ACC1224]

Honestly wouldnt blame them. Theyve been bleeding assets non-stop for years. Tampa missed a year with their core before winning their cups.

The D and depth are just such a mess I still find it surprising people think its enough to win (sure it could happen, its just extremely unlikely).

In the long run, it might not be the worse thing.
Treliving needs to be prepared to take some serious heat though.

 

[Nineteen67]

They'd never admit it but I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking at this season as a reset year, blow the Dubas stench off the Team and regroup next year.

I thought the plan last season was to win a round and then a mini rebuild. I think Dubas wanted to do that, but I don’t think he was the best candidate to fix this group.

 

[Dekes For Days]

It's crazy how bush league the NHL is. It's bad enough that they don't have a central registry for trade clauses, and it's bad enough that they're handing down a punishment two years after the fact after saying there would be none, and it's bad enough that their priorities are so messed up that they'll strip 1st round picks for something like this after letting Chicago face no punishment for covering up a SA scandal...

But the most ironic part of this is that they're punishing a team for withholding critical information during a transaction... and they withheld this critical information during the transaction to sell the team. Just incompetent, massive hypocrites in the league offices.

 

[Squiffy]

Didn’t the Melynk estate sell the team, not the NHL?

 

[Mess]

By taking a non playoff team and having them sit out of the playoffs 9 games into the season?

It might end up being a terrible season for Pit and you could end up being correct but it feels a little premature to gloat. Also who cares? He is gone from Toronto. Why continue to celebrate/hope for his demise?

Did you honestly not learn anything through the 5 years of complete failure as Leafs GM of all the bad signings and bad contracts and lack of playoff results?

The fact that he is gone and now off destroying the hopes of another team is a blessing for the Leafs.

I've been pointing out DB clueless incompetence for the past 5 years and certainly don't need Pens failure now to validate my position as I have 5 years of pent up anger and evidence towards his firing already ,.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Didn’t the Melynk estate sell the team, not the NHL?

The NHL has significant involvement in team sales.
Either way, they had two ongoing investigations into the team that could significantly impact them and their competitiveness and profitability, including one that is a complete flip flop on their seemingly final established position from two years ago, and they said absolutely nothing to the buyer until the sale was finalized.
Just shady business practices, and extremely hypocritical.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

The NHL has significant involvement in team sales.
Either way, they had two ongoing investigations into the team that could significantly impact them and their competitiveness and profitability, including one that is a complete flip flop on their seemingly final established position from two years ago, and they said absolutely nothing to the buyer until the sale was finalized.
Just shady business practices, and extremely hypocritical.

I highly doubt Shane Pinto and a 1st round pick significantly impact their competitiveness or profitability.

Andlauer seems like he’s having a meltdown and a bit of an overreaction to all of this.

Honestly wouldnt blame them. Theyve been bleeding assets non-stop for years. Tampa missed a year with their core before winning their cups.

The D and depth are just such a mess I still find it surprising people think its enough to win (sure it could happen, its just extremely unlikely).

Yup, the D especially on this team this year is nowhere close to Cup contender level. We ain’t winning shit with Klingberg and the fossilized remains of Giordano playing in our top 6. Member of the core needs to be moved to revamp, preferably Marner if I was to choose. We had a pretty good defense core for a brief period of time with Muzzin, Brodie and Reilly. Too bad our stars choked as usual and blew a golden opportunity against the Habs.

 

[ACC1224]

I highly doubt Shane Pinto and a 1st round pick significantly impact their competitiveness or profitability.

Andlauer seems like he’s having a meltdown and a bit of an overreaction to all of this.



Yup, the D especially on this team this year is nowhere close to Cup contender level. We ain’t winning shit with Klingberg and the fossilized remains of Giordano playing in our top 6. Member of the core needs to be moved to revamp, preferably Marner if I was to choose. We had a pretty good defense core for a brief period of time with Muzzin, Brodie and Reilly. Too bad our stars choked as usual and blew a golden opportunity against the Habs.

It's all a game, putting a show on for the fans and hoping the league will throw him a bone for something later.

 

[Squiffy]

Yes kinda shady on a couple levels if he actually knew nothing of both league investigations. Not sure I completely buy that he knew nothing of either. Didn’t expect these outcomes certainly.

In the grand scheme of things, does either significantly impact his desire to buy, or the valuation of around 1 billion? What, he was going to walk if he knew of these outcomes, pay $10 million less or something?

Guy’s just putting on a show for his fan base. Don’t blame him either.

Edit: wow lol.. @ACC1224 beats me to it in the time it took to type

 

[ACC1224]

Yes kinda shady on a couple levels if he actually knew nothing of both league investigations. Not sure I completely buy that he knew nothing of either. Didn’t expect these outcomes certainly.

In the grand scheme of things, does either significantly impact his desire to buy, or the valuation of around 1 billion? What, he was going to walk if he knew of these outcomes, pay $10 million less or something?

Guy’s just putting on a show for his fan base. Don’t blame him either.

Edit: wow lol.. @ACC1224 beats me to it in the time it took to type

Seasoned vets in mid season form !

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Didn’t the Melynk estate sell the team, not the NHL?

NHL basically hand-picked who they wanted to go with. Honestly, they were idiotic not going with Reynolds which made me happy because his marketing tactics are legendary and it would've been terrific as well.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Terry with the OT winner for the hatty.
That was a good game.

Are the Ducks actually decent?!?!

We'll see how long this lasts, but they're certainly fun to watch. Guys like McT, Terry, Mintyukov, Carlsson,....hell, even vets like Vatrano and Strome. This all without Drysdale since game 2 and getting absolutely nothing from Zegras so far.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I highly doubt Shane Pinto and a 1st round pick significantly impact their competitiveness or profitability.

Andlauer seems like he’s having a meltdown and a bit of an overreaction to all of this.

I don't think any of this would have altered the sale nor have made a material impact on the sale price, so yes, I would agree it is over reactionary in that sense.

But the lack of disclosure definitely is something he has every right to be upset about. I think a 1st round pick has more tangible value attached to it than we think (definitely in the millions). Again, it wouldn't have done anything for the sale process. But as a new owner, being flush with as many assets as possible, especially a 1st round pick, is not something you take as a "ho hum" afterthought.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Leafs ain't winning shit lol.

The roster is so flawed I don't know how people still can't see it.

Trash d, poor d depth, no good d specs, depleted draft pick supply, shit bottom 6. Yeah def set em up well for the future

They're a bunch of pretenders. Always have been, always will be.

Yup. I'm alright with building a team around Matthews (needs help) and Nylander (allow him to do whatever he wants on the ice).

But we can't have Marner and Tavares on top of that. Just won't work. Not happening. We are and have been wasting time. This was evident when we lost to Columbus. The rest has been just wasting everyone's time.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Taking a chance on good old Reimer tonight. He has some great numbers, so I thought he'd be a decent pickup for the Fantasy pool. We will see.

 

[NinjaKick]

 

[wingman75]

Ah, leave it to the Oil to brighten up the evening !

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

How is Pavelski still so damn good...

 

[BallardEra]

Sharks already down 3-0.

Hopefully their first win comes against the Pens on Saturday.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Sharks already down 3-0.

Hopefully their first win comes against the Pens on Saturday.

Wouldn't be surprised if it came against the Leafs.

 

[BallardEra]

Sharks down 5-0.

They have 9 goals scored and 40 allowed so far this season.

 

[Jojalu]

Sharks down 5-0.

They have 9 goals scored and 40 allowed so far this season.

I would like to say it would be great to see the Leafs play them to see if Bert could break out of his slump but...